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LineSkiCat14

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And in fairness to Tatum, he's young too. But Jefferson was acting like Tatum is kind of that superstar already.
That's why I’ve been in ‘anybody but the Celtics’ mode. The Dookies and much of the media would be treating a Celtics championship like it’s a friggin’ Dook chamionship.

I am/was too, until I just read that Vogel and the Lakers are actually going to the NBA front office to file a formal complaint about Lebron not getting enough fouls and free throws.. A guy who gets plenty of star treatment on a franchise known for getting helped by the officials.

What a slap in the face to a guy like James Harden, who's game has literally been altered by post-season officials for 5 years.
 

GonzoCat90

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I am/was too, until I just read that Vogel and the Lakers are actually going to the NBA front office to file a formal complaint about Lebron not getting enough fouls and free throws.. A guy who gets plenty of star treatment on a franchise known for getting helped by the officials.

What a slap in the face to a guy like James Harden, who's game has literally been altered by post-season officials for 5 years.

I...can't tell if this is satire.
 

LineSkiCat14

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I...can't tell if this is satire.

It is not. Say what you will about Harden's game during regular season, but it's drastically changed on him in the playoffs. He no longer gets the shooting fouls he normally gets. Now, if you think those are bogus calls to begin with (his ability/attempt to draw shooting fouls) that's a different story. But that shouldn't be changed in the playoffs. In the last 3 years his FTA's in the playoffs dropped by about 2-3 a game, from what they were in the regular season.. which also means, by nature, less foul trouble/bonus for the other team. Yet his first 7 years? FTA in playoffs and regular season about the same.. and in some cases, actually a little higher in the playoffs. Why is it all the sudden that Harden's game isn't allowed in the playoffs? Or maybe trying to be unbiased, WHY are Harden's numbers dropping in the playoffs, then, if officiating isn't to blame?

Looking at Lebron's last 5 years.. it is largely the same, as a whole, between playoffs and regular season. Some years more, some less. Curry's numbers, actually appear higher in the playoffs.

It's worth noting, I think this has ALSO become in his head. And I think it's now something that he needs to just play through, and maybe it wouldn't be a thing. He clearly let's the officiating take him out of games.
 

GonzoCat90

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It is not. Say what you will about Harden's game during regular season, but it's drastically changed on him in the playoffs. He no longer gets the shooting fouls he normally gets. Now, if you think those are bogus calls to begin with (his ability/attempt to draw shooting fouls) that's a different story. But that shouldn't be changed in the playoffs. In the last 3 years his FTA's in the playoffs dropped by about 2-3 a game, from what they were in the regular season.. which also means, by nature, less foul trouble/bonus for the other team. Yet his first 7 years? FTA in playoffs and regular season about the same.. and in some cases, actually a little higher in the playoffs. Why is it all the sudden that Harden's game isn't allowed in the playoffs? Or maybe trying to be unbiased, WHY are Harden's numbers dropping in the playoffs, then, if officiating isn't to blame?

Looking at Lebron's last 5 years.. it is largely the same, as a whole, between playoffs and regular season. Some years more, some less. Curry's numbers, actually appear higher in the playoffs.

It's worth noting, I think this has ALSO become in his head. And I think it's now something that he needs to just play through, and maybe it wouldn't be a thing. He clearly let's the officiating take him out of games.

I think there are a few reasons that have nothing to do with officiating.

First, Harden gives much more effort defensively in the playoffs. It takes his energy so he's more inclined to settle.

Second, teams get familiar with you in the playoffs. Harden's game is all about deception and pace and little nuances that get you off balance. When you're in a series and seeing the same looks every night, it's easier to gameplan beforehand but also to adjust on the floor once you've seen it so often.

Third, he just struggles in the playoffs. He seems to feel the pressure of having a team built around him and totally reliant on him being brilliant to win.
 

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75yo Dwight Howard had more rebounds in a quarter than Davis has in a game 1.5 games. I'm sorry but that's sad, and I'm reminded of what Dennis Rodman said about rebounding, "It's all about effort".
 
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I was just thinking to myself, "Where's Lebron been during this game?" then they showed his stats and he's almost got a triple double. Lol.
 
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recent history says denver needs to lose to get back in the series.

murray is playing so efficiently with his fg% and assisting it’s crazy. another gem of a game.