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SRURock24

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He’s won everywhere. I don’t fault him for his SEC losses. Tough conference. He’s coached at ND. They are weird like us.
In fairness he made it to a National Championship game at Notre Dame and had 7 double digit winning seasons. I don’t like the guy and he is 64 but don’t think he would be a disaster.
 
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ApexLion

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In fairness he made it to a National Championship game at Notre Dame and had multiple double digit winning seasons. I don’t like the guy and he is 64 but dint think he would be a disaster.
Agreed. I'm not trolling. I think he might have won one at ND if he stayed. Coaching in the SEC is brutal if you are not Bama or Georgia and even then it's 3/4s brutal. I think Kelly would pull NE and Midwest talent and win a lot of games at PSU. He would need to chill his personality down for the PSU fans but who is the most experienced winner out there? Urban is finished. So go to the next one who is most experienced. Unless Kraft is going to get the Bama guy (doubtful) for 18-20M and install Bama north in State College. I'm not sure what else you can do. Keep working on Freeman? Elko? maybe but Kelly would start ramping up the program NOW.
 
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Navion N8865H

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Agreed. I'm not trolling. I think he might have won one at ND if he stayed. Coaching in the SEC is brutal if you are not Bama or Georgia and even then it's 3/4s brutal. I think Kelly would pull NE and Midwest talent and win a lot of games at PSU. He would need to chill his personality down for the PSU fans but who is the most experienced winner out there? Urban is finished. So go to the next one who is most experienced. Unless Kraft is going to get the Bama guy (doubtful) for 18-20M and install Bama north in State College. I'm not sure what else you can do. Keep working on Freeman? Elko? maybe but Kelly would start ramping up the program NOW.
Brian Kelly job interview, first question - how do you justify Declan Sullivan death? You just moved practice to the other end of the field and kept going?
 

JVP_Yahweh

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Rumors of Scrap being in town enjoying the bachelor life. He might be a good candidate and he did beat Osu pretty handily. Plus he's not that old
 

NewEra 2026

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I got to thinking that the trajectory of BGJ and Mike Tomlin are somewhat similar. Both are successful coaches who appear to have reached a ceiling in their current job. Both have worn out their welcome with a good portion of the fanbase. A change for both of them may work out well long term for both the coach and the team that they are leaving.
 
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PSU4U

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No possibility that this info is just smokescreen to deflect attention away from another candidate? I'm trying to think positively here...

It just kills me that Penn State is going to pay more for Rhule than Franklin for same or likely worse performance. And ignore better, proven coaches. I think PSU is trying to take over IU's spot at the bottom of the conference for sports (other than wrestling).
Well, I just heard from someone I respect who has some insight into all of this and he says Rhule is not a done deal yet. Just passing it along as it should give people hope. As for me I'm staying out of it now.
 

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When you think about it, college football has become ridiculous. Universities are making significant decisions potentially impacting academic collaborations. Football > everything else mindset.

I know of at least a couple of academic collaborations of Pac12 schools that sort have gone by the wayside with the PAC falling apart.

I know B1G schools have a lot of academic collaborations. If a school was to leave the B1G does that mean that school can no longer be part of it?

Schools doing well in football see enrollment jumps, and of course it is now super big business. The ADs make money, but not really, it funds many other athletic programs. Schools are making decisions that are putting them deeper in the hole with no real way to get out.

At the end of the day it comes down to big egos of schools, egos of athletics programs, egos of ADs, egos of FB HCs, egos of FB players, egos of big donors, egos of fan bases.

At the end of the day, a bunch of BS that really only truly impacts a handful of people at each university (that is until schools cut other programs impacting all those potential future students athletes that will lose opportunities at their dream schools).

This is why at the end of the day I do not let it all really impact my mood, day, life, etc. why should I let the egos of others impact me?

Yeah, yeah. I know I will take some crap from some of you for the post. But guess what, I don’t really give a damn because it doesn’t impact my life either.
 
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donaldfair71

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Well, I just heard from someone I respect who has some insight into all of this and he says Rhule is not a done deal yet. Just passing it along as it should give people hope. As for me I'm staying out of it now.
denzel washington GIF
 

LB99

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Brian Kelly job interview, first question - how do you justify Declan Sullivan death? You just moved practice to the other end of the field and kept going?
Second question: “How did you handle the situation when your players at ND harassed a young woman who had been sexually assaulted, so that she wouldn’t report them? Where you tempted to kick them off the team after you learned that she had committed suicide over the situation?”
 

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Right. Michigan cheated their balls off to win a championship. The NCAA acknowledged it and still let them keep their championship. There’s no deterrent to cheating or being unethical anymore. You’re almost a sucker to bother staying within the rules anymore.
Believe it or not it’s almost in every sport. There’s always someone pushing the envelope.
 

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Well, I just heard from someone I respect who has some insight into all of this and he says Rhule is not a done deal yet. Just passing it along as it should give people hope. As for me I'm staying out of it now.
I'd love to know where you're getting thus from because from everything that I've heard Rhule desperately wants the job but he's nowhere near their first option.
 
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Moogy

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But what happens if Rhule beats osu? And it will happen,

Says who? Rhule can't beat ranked teams, let alone top-ranked teams.

Rhule's futility in beating merely ranked squads is as bad as Franklin's inability to beat the top squads.
 
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The Athletic, by Stewart Mandel. 10/27/2025
There are far more schools on the market this cycle than there are qualified candidates. LSU, Penn State, Florida and, if it opens, Florida State, will be looking to lure an elite coach who can win them a national championship. But there aren’t four elite coaches just hanging out on Indeed.com. There might not even be one.
-article goes on yada, yada, yada, believes Kraft will hire Rhule.

However, one coach who may fit the Cignetti/DeBoer profile: James Madison’s Bob Chesney. The 48-year-old Pennsylvania native has spent the past 15 years climbing the ladder from Division III (Salve Regina) to D-II (Assumption) to FCS (Holy Cross) to FBS (James Madison). His career winning percentage is .712. On paper, he’s an ideal candidate for Penn State.

He doesn’t, however, host a podcast or make weekly appearances on Pat McAfee’s show, so he might not get an interview.
 

PSU4U

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I'd love to know where you're getting thus from because from everything that I've heard Rhule desperately wants the job but he's nowhere near their first option.
We wish. But I never said he was their1st option in fact I prayed it wouldn't be him. But the conventional wisdom of those close to the situation have all but said it was him.

Why didn't one well connected person employed on a highly frequented PS football site who dropped the hint come right out and say it's him, because he was told not to. By the way I'm not a member of that site or anyother pay site.
 

Pa$ky859

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All in discussion, sir. No gotchas.
I do think Hartline will make a good coach. Your examples are undeniable A+ success stories.

I guess I feel like this is Penn State, we need a home run hire, and this is a destination job for someone with a proven track record. (Maybe I’m looking through Happy Valley glasses though).
 
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Itraindogs

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That's about right.

Kelly would be an average hire at best, but he'd be organized and score points. Culturally, he's 100x more suited for Pa than Louisiana.

He'd make 1000% more sense than Matt Rhule.
Kelly won at Notre Dame before the NIL era. He has been awful at LSU despite being arguably in a state where every 5* prospect in a talent rich environment dreams of playing at LSU. Its similar to OSU and Florida in the respect that the logo recruits itself and he still managed to fuxx it up. His teams are soft, and he routinely his teams cannot play complimentary football. He is the only coach in in LSU's last four hires who did NOT win a National Champion. And he is not a recruiter.

As for the "brutal" SEC. Texas AM leveled up, so did Ole Miss and Vandy, LSU with all its resources has a worse record than FLORIDA who just fired Billy Napier. Texas AM went sexual on LSU in Tiger Stadium. That was an *** beating of epic proportions.

Opting for these retreads is nuts. If you cannot hire a dynamic young coach with vision and energy (even from a lower tier program) then you look for a coordinator that shows promise.
 
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donaldfair71

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Kelly won at Notre Dame before the NIL era. He has been awful at LSU despite being arguably in a state where every 5* prospect in a talent rich environment dreams of playing at LSU. Its similar to OSU and Florida in the respect that the logo recruits itself and he still managed to fuxx it up. His teams are soft, and he routinely his teams cannot play complimentary football. He is the only coach in in LSU's last four hires who did NOT win a National Champion. And he is not a recruiter.

As for the "brutal" SEC. Texas AM leveled up, so did Ole Miss and Vandy, LSU with all its resources has a worse record than FLORIDA who just fired Billy Napier. Texas AM went sexual on LSU in Tiger Stadium. That was an *** beating of epic proportions.

Opting for these retreads is nuts. If you cannot hire a dynamic young coach with vision and energy (even from a lower tier program) then you look for a coordinator that shows promise.
Yeah I’m not a fan of hiring him.

But all else equal he’ll win more than Matt Rhule IMO.
 

LB99

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The Athletic, by Stewart Mandel. 10/27/2025
There are far more schools on the market this cycle than there are qualified candidates. LSU, Penn State, Florida and, if it opens, Florida State, will be looking to lure an elite coach who can win them a national championship. But there aren’t four elite coaches just hanging out on Indeed.com. There might not even be one.
-article goes on yada, yada, yada, believes Kraft will hire Rhule.

However, one coach who may fit the Cignetti/DeBoer profile: James Madison’s Bob Chesney. The 48-year-old Pennsylvania native has spent the past 15 years climbing the ladder from Division III (Salve Regina) to D-II (Assumption) to FCS (Holy Cross) to FBS (James Madison). His career winning percentage is .712. On paper, he’s an ideal candidate for Penn State.

He doesn’t, however, host a podcast or make weekly appearances on Pat McAfee’s show, so he might not get an interview.
What can you tell me about Chesney’s coaching style? His career path looks impressive. What are the hallmarks of a Bob Chesney team? Thanks. I legitimately would like to know. I don’t know anything about him, but I’m more intrigued by the up and comers right now than some others who are being mentioned.
 

s1uggo72

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What can you tell me about Chesney’s coaching style? His career path looks impressive. What are the hallmarks of a Bob Chesney team? Thanks. I legitimately would like to know. I don’t know anything about him, but I’m more intrigued by the up and comers right now than some others who are being mentioned.
Chesney went to Dickinson college. He seems like a self made man so to speak. JMU plays Marshall in 2 weeks. I’ll check him out. He might be might choice as well, but it’s a big jump
 

royboy

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Chesney went to Dickinson college. He seems like a self made man so to speak. JMU plays Marshall in 2 weeks. I’ll check him out. He might be might choice as well, but it’s a big jump
He took over at JMU after Cignetti jumped from JMU to Indiana and took 13 JMU players with him, an important nucleus for IU.

Chesney was still able to go 9-4 with a JMU win in the Boca Raton Bowl over Western Kentucky for the 2024 season.

And Chesney is 6-1 this season at JMU. Pretty impressive considering what Cignetti took with him.
 

LMTLION

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He took over at JMU after Cignetti jumped from JMU to Indiana and took 13 JMU players with him, an important nucleus for IU.

Chesney was still able to go 9-4 with a JMU win in the Boca Raton Bowl over Western Kentucky for the 2024 season.

And Chesney is 6-1 this season at JMU. Pretty impressive considering what Cignetti took with him.
He is impressive, but he is still very green. I would have more interest if he had the p4 position coach experience that Cignetti had. Cignetti even worked under Saban at Alabama as a position coach and recruiting coordinator in the beginning of the Saban dynasty.
 
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PSUFTG

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Hey, if they hire Rhule and he beats OSU, I will be a big Matt Rhule fan.

I don't dislike Matt Rhule on a personal level, I dislike him as a coach for my team because I don't think he adds anything above the baseline average coach.

I can change when the facts change, and it wouldn't make me a hypocrite. He could beat OSU regularly, win a title, etc., and it wouldn't change that he never, ever gave the impression that he could do those things beforehand.
If anyone is pondering Rhule? Or no Rhule? Watching this podcast he does would likely tilt one to "Not".
It is brutal (not Andy Kotelnicki press conference brutal, but brutal nonetheless.)
How Will Coach Rhule Get Nebraska Back On Track? Find Out In This Week's House Rhules | Ep. 10

Someone - who provides very bad advice - must have convinced them that this show would raise his profile or some such thing. God, what bad advice.
A combination of Franklin-esque excuses ("I take full responsibility".... followed by a lengthy passive-aggressive BS) - and a lot of "Bruh idiocy" "I'm (trying really hard to appear to be) just a regular cool guy" jabber. But just completely out of his element. Kinda' sad.
 
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s1uggo72

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He is impressive, but he is still very green. I would have more interest if he had the p4 position coach experience that Cignetti had. Cignetti even worked under Saban at Alabama as a position coach and recruiting coordinator in the beginning of the Saban dynasty.
Otoh he’s worked his way up on his own. No coat tails. He’s a smart guy. He’ll figure it out. It’s just football.
 

donaldfair71

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If anyone is pondering Rhule? Or no Rhule? Watching this podcast he does would likely tilt one to "Not".
It is brutal (not Andy Kotelnicki press conference brutal, but brutal nonetheless.)
How Will Coach Rhule Get Nebraska Back On Track? Find Out In This Week's House Rhules | Ep. 10

Someone - who provides very bad advice - must have convinced them that this show would raise his profile or some such thing. God, what bad advice.
A combination of Franklin-esque excuses ("I take full responsibility".... followed by a lengthy passive-aggressive BS) - and a lot of "Bruh idiocy" "I'm (trying really hard to appear to be) just a regular cool guy" jabber. But just completely out of his element. Kinda' sad.
You don’t get hired (or considered for every opening) over and over with his resume without being affable.
 
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LMTLION

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Otoh he’s worked his way up on his own. No coat tails. He’s a smart guy. He’ll figure it out. It’s just football.
I would certainly take him over Rhule. It’s just such a large jump without having any P4 experience, but I totally understand the interest in him. His career trajectory is impressive.
 
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