He has been pursued because he is a Pat Kraft guy, not because he is a PSU guy.
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But there are PS people around Kraft who want him or at least another PS guy. Sad as it may be.He has been pursued because he is a Pat Kraft guy, not because he is a PSU guy.
Yup.
Like I said, hard to see any other direction than Rhule at the end of the day. Not because he is the best guy, but because he will have an unbreakble bloc of support from the BoT and the AD will love that he gets to hire his buddy.
If they do hire Rhule, I wonder if it wasn't in the back of the minds of the BoT in hiring Kraft to begin with.
Last evening you said "I don't think it's going to be Rhule."Unless something changes drastically it's going to be Matt Rhule. That's the info I got last night. I was so upset I had to sleep on it. A perpetual 7-5 here we come. I just don't get it
12 hours later...it's going to be Rhule.
You've certainly hedged your bets
Yep.Last evening you said "I don't think it's going to be Rhule."
12 hours later...it's going to be Rhule.
You've certainly hedged your bets
No possibility that this info is just smokescreen to deflect attention away from another candidate? I'm trying to think positively here...Unless something changes drastically it's going to be Matt Rhule. That's the info I got last night. I was so upset I had to sleep on it. A perpetual 7-5 here we come. I just don't get it
It just kills me that Penn State is going to pay more for Rhule than Franklin for same or likely worse performance. And ignore better, proven coaches. I think PSU is trying to take over IU's spot at the bottom of the conference for sports (other than wrestling).
Good news is 7-5 won't be perpetual.Unless something changes drastically it's going to be Matt Rhule. That's the info I got last night. I was so upset I had to sleep on it. A perpetual 7-5 here we come. I just don't get it
After seeing the way they treated Franklin, the AD nor Rhule will survive more than a few years of 7-5.
If true, I think I can comfortably say that PSU's BOT has done more to harm the school than anything.
This is why I keep saying that if Penn State really wants to win championships, as Kraft said, or become another Ohio State or Bama, it's absolutely essential that everyone in the admin be "all in" on that philosophy. Our BOT evidently has other agendas. Sad.
Didn’t the volleyball team win a national championship last year?
He will be run out on rail in 3 to 4 years- book it. Franklin 2.0 but worse. What big games has he won at any stop? Vs PSU with a Freshman Qb and no offensive lineman? Please.Unless something changes drastically it's going to be Matt Rhule. That's the info I got last night. I was so upset I had to sleep on it. A perpetual 7-5 here we come. I just don't get it
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But what if the “big donors” that insist on hiring a PSU guy now threaten to pull their donations if he is fired? Then what? This is a slippery slope we are about to embark on.
Wasnt Franklin asked if he wanted to be the coach at Penn State and he did not say "yes"? Franklin was as deflated as the fanbase and team. From the outside it seems more like he quit.
Absolutely, but I still took heart in the fact that always losing to the best teams isn't acceptable.
I think part of his deflation was on being told "No" finally, and his being told no alone tells me that what had been accepted for far too long wasn't cutting it anymore. Part of it, too, was the fanbase getting on him constantly. Again, gives me hope that we don't give decade-long extensions anymore for 11-11 records, 7-5, whatever you call it. Also don't sit on our hands when the teams falls on its face in back to back to back weeks.
Are we about to start treating the football team the same way we do the basketball program. Part of the PS man group were some of the same people screaming that the football program gives up a lot to fund non-revenue sports.
It bears repeating:Last evening you said "I don't think it's going to be Rhule."
12 hours later...it's going to be Rhule.
You've certainly hedged your bets
"95% of the Hot Takes regarding coaching searches are either incredibly stupid, or some yahoo looking for attention, or both (usually both)"
Kraft should just announce Rhule as the guy now and piss us off thoroughly. Just get it over with.
“Remember when I talked about national championships? Welllllllll…”
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I am certain Kraft understands that his job is on the line with this hire. He does not strike as a stupid person, so hopefully he understands the consequences of hiring his friend, even with BOT support, and his friend does not manage to exceed the accomplishments of Franklin's tenure. Rhule's leash will be very short. If Rhule has any sense he will pass on the PSU job and stay in Nebraska. Given his record, his lack of recruiting chops, the chance he will succeed here are very slim. Expectations here are enormous.
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FYI... no way of verifying but from PSU Bank Button...
Ohio State OC Brian Hartline, who was our 1st choice in the weeks before the inevitable Franklin canning, met with both AD Kraft/President Bendapudi over the weekend. Both the Buckeyes & Nittany Lions were on the bye.
Ohio State OC Brian Hartline, who was our 1st choice in the weeks before the inevitable Franklin canning, met with both AD Kraft/President Bendapudi over the weekend. Both the Buckeyes & Nittany Lions were on the bye.
I think the enthusiasm needs tempering. Yes Hartline is undoubtedly without peer in WR recruiting and development, but we need to pump the breaks on "brilliant offensive mind." First time out as an OC he flopped and Day re-appropriated his duties; this time he has called most games (except Texas) but the sample size is small (especially given the competition). Having said that, he is a rising talent and will get a HC job sooner rather than later. If he is strategic and delegates well (OC and DC) he will be successful. I would surely take a chance on him versus Rhule.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but feels like some people are posting multiple answers, then will selectively say "see I was right"
Hire Kelly, get it over with, pull in recruits from all over. So what if he's a total azz, who cares anymore if a coach is ethical?
Maybe he's not an elite offensive mind.
But he's young and is widely considered the best assistant in college football. He IS the best developer of WRs that the college game has ever seen. And he's not going to cost 9-10million+. Which means you can surround him with great coordinators to ease him into the job.
I could definitely get excited about Brian Hartline. Freeman, Lanning, etc. mold of a young up and comer to jolt some energy into the program. This is also why I like Joe Brady, although it looks like LSU might make a run at him as well.
But he's young and is widely considered the best assistant in college football. He IS the best developer of WRs that the college game has ever seen. And he's not going to cost 9-10million+. Which means you can surround him with great coordinators to ease him into the job.
I could definitely get excited about Brian Hartline. Freeman, Lanning, etc. mold of a young up and comer to jolt some energy into the program. This is also why I like Joe Brady, although it looks like LSU might make a run at him as well.
I despise OSU with all my heart, but I'd much rather a Buckeye be leading this program than a PSU guy.
Come on, man. He is a walking disaster. He could not win with LSU's talent and you think he would be an improvement from Franklin. Talk about someone who cannot recruit.
But, I am curious (unless you are simply trolling), why do you think he is a fit?
PSU would be better off identifying a young coordinator and let him develop under the support PSU can offer, Offering failed coaches is not a recipe for improving on what Franklin accomplished here.
Exactly and why I don't want Kelly or Rhule or any other retread HC. It almost never works out that they end up doing better at their next destination HC job.
But what happens if Rhule beats osu? And it will happen, and oh the wailing and gnashing, I never said that, .....
"dark days are gone, bright days are here".
Sing it Sunny!
Hey, if they hire Rhule and he beats OSU, I will be a big Matt Rhule fan.
I don't dislike Matt Rhule on a personal level, I dislike him as a coach for my team because I don't think he adds anything above the baseline average coach.
I can change when the facts change, and it wouldn't make me a hypocrite. He could beat OSU regularly, win a title, etc., and it wouldn't change that he never, ever gave the impression that he could do those things beforehand.
I agree, I bet Georgia wishes they never hired Kirby and Ohio State regrets hiring Day.
He’s won everywhere. I don’t fault him for his SEC losses. Tough conference. He’s coached at ND. They are weird like us.