Not an advocate for him, but somewhat surprised Schiano's name hasn't popped up.....or perhaps I missed it.....
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Career suicide for anyone worth a damn. Recruiting class of zero, ranked 138 out of 138. Kids portaling out daily. Huge losses from the senior class. You now have forfeited any of the previous candidates and need a program builder. Actually, Key would now be ideal but he said no already
I just said this earlier this last night. He would be perfect. Program builder who finds ways to win and compete with terribly outmanned rosters. He's a program doctor who saves the patient every time. Don't expect 10-2, but he can turn what would be a 2-10 team next year into an 8-4 Outback Bowl. People will absolutely scream in anger at the hire but at this point there are less than 10 possible coaches out there who can save us. Willie Fritz can save us. Irrelevant how old he is. The job now is to find a way to compete with a roster full of basically Mac level guys, portal scraps, juco finds etc. Fritz specializes in finding diamonds in the rough and making lemonade out of lemons.
1st thing this morning Bendapudi should walk into Kraft's office and fire him on the spot then go to the Lasch bldg and promote Terry Smith to full time HC on the spot. It's time to move on from this Kraft created debacle.
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Truly pathetic. Any more excuses and scapegoats you want to offer for Kraft?
If that is true than Kraft really is just a stupid human being who insists on trying to lure the most unlikely candidates to Penn state
No offense…. I live in Kentucky. UK football is not in the same universe as Penn State. We should never be hiring the same level of coach.Will Stein (Oregon OC) did as well and according to 'PSU sources' they felt he was too inexperienced. Then Kentucky hires him in less than 24 hours after firing Stoops. WTF.
Why not?
With the exception of Franklin, no one else was hired more than a week ago. How does this play out if you wait to fire Franklin until say, this past weekend? My guess is not much differently. Franklin is likely snapped up by VT in a couple days and recruits start to bail anyway. In the past, you had one signing day in February (and no portal) that allowed for classes to stay together while coaches were being hired and given a chance to make their case to the recruits. You can't do that now. I don't know how you have someone in place either; the top guys are mostly going to stay put. Terry Smith lobbying for the job (knowing he will never get it) doesn't help. What does he tell prospective recruits? 'At least I'll be here?' Pfft. Should have made AK and JK acting interim co-HCs and not risk further disruption/division by having a Franklin friend/loyalist in the position.
And I doubt even Kraft thought Franklin would bomb against UCLA and NW after such a hard fought game against Oregon. But Franklin checked out and needed to go. It's a tough situation.
Nope. Ever since Saban shilled for Franklin in that interview on game day after Franklin was fired means Saban is shiite now. Saban has same agent as Franklin, Sexton, and of course he was going to bash PSU. We are not getting Hartline either because Hartline's agent works for Sexton's agency. PSU is screwed and Kraft's days are most likely numbered. However, Franklin needed to go because he gave up on the team which is pretty obvious if you think about it.
Most talking heads in the media make shiite up.
Kraft is responsible for the “tough” situation. The professed rationale for firing Franklin was to get a jump start on the hiring process. Today is signing day for high school kids and many predict Penn State will sign no one. The portal opens on January 2nd and I anticipate existing players will be entering it as well. I guess it’s possible that Kraft will still pull a rabbit out of his hat but I have serious doubts about that.
Not me. He's getting paid either way. He gets a cut of the buyout plus a cut of Franklin's new salary. He's not negotiating for and between different coaches. That would be a crazy conflict of interest and get him fired by many of the people he represents.
Wait! Does Bill Belichick’s young GF like Happy Valley?
Agree about Saban
but to think Sexton would tell Hartline he can’t take a job that’s going to give him a $6-7 million dollar a year raise is ridiculous
people need to stop with this notion that Sexton is out to screw Penn state and / or Kraft.
Exactly. He'd relish the opportunity to negotiate another deal with Penn State for one of his clients. Laughing last is laughing best.
This begs the question then why did Sexton's coaches all settle for less money with their extensions over what Kraft was or would have offered. I'm not saying you are incorrect but to me those seem to be unbelievable coincidences. Doubt Sexton is the complete Devil he's made out to be but he was a constant influence in most of Kraft's attempted hires, negative or positive I don't know.
You're assuming PSU was going to offer those coaches jobs
I see your comment has been replied to and I can’t delete my post, so I’m going to go with…
We Are!
Newsweek? Really? Today’s Newsweek is a step up from the National Enquirer.
I could not agree more. Anyone from the outside could quantify all the reasons why going after the likes of Elko, Deboer, Meyer, Saban and so on were unrealistic options if not a waste of time. Kraft grossly miscalculated and from all accounts the program will be the worse for it. If he does not pull a rabbit out of a hat he will likely lose his job for this fiasco.
With no incoming class, near two dozen seniors leaving and the inevitable portal defections I am interested to see what kind of team takes the field next fall.
I hope he manages to right the ship, but at the moment it looks like its taking on more and more water.
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Keep in mind that it was Sexton who approached Kraft and the board for a JF contract extension
OBVIOUSLY.
, Kraft has no intention of hiring Smith. Even under dire circumstances, Kraft may refuse to do it out of spite, as in to not admit defeat.F*ck us.
The question is whether the job has plummeted in value or the value was not what Kraft imagined it to be. I lean to the latter. If the latter is true, then the initial targets to take the job were not well-considered so Kraft naturally struck out and here we are.
Man Kraft has been too quiet we need something leaked
First day something gets leaked everybody wants him signed within 2 hours or Kraft is a failure
holy **** you people are nuts and some of you are so entitled you think Penn State deserves Kirby Smart or you’re not satisfied. There were no home run hires this cycle besides maybe Kiffin who has never won anything significant.Some of these people that thought Franklin was great
yeah that’s why LSU, Auburn, and Florida wanted nothing to do with him and he had to settle for Virginia Tech. Also not worried about Penn State losing these kids this was shaping up to be one of the worst classes in awhile for us. It was probably going to finish in between 20-25th ranked wiseSad but true. Kraft is in the process of proving that he would hire a corpse before he would hire Terry Smith. That attitude alone is reason to fire Kraft.
The fact that Kraft hasn't given one real thought of hiring Smith begs the question is it because of Smith's connection to Joe Paterno. Is that disdain for all things Joe still imbedded in the upper crust of the university.
I agree. I was not a fan of this hire to begin with, but given where things stand now he and Chesney may be the best options, and for different reasons.
“On the spot” decisions frequently have less than desirable long-term ramifications. Maybe let’s see how everything plays out first?
I don't get this at all. He's one of the best up and coming coordinators in college football. At one point, Dan Lanning, Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin, Ryan Day, Kalen DeBoer, etc. were all up and coming coordinators. I get Kentucky football may not be Penn State, but the landscape is changing. Oh - and last time we played them they beat us.