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[NoSoup4U]

I agree. The odds of Kraft being this incompetent are so slim that I have to believe there is somebody on board.

So historically tell me where he has shown competence in any of his hires at prior jobs? Much less how many has he actually hired in terms of a high profile position? the number appears to be less than 1.....change my mind

If he is truly not incompetent then he is sorely out of his depth to handle this situation

 

[Phlebitis]

The only thing that possible makes sense is that the person has agreed to take the job but is in the CFP and wants to wait until that concludes - or Kraft f'ed this up to holy hell and there is zero interest in this job but with the money they have that makes no sense.

To me that has always made the most sense. He easily could have hired dozens of coaches worth a shot by now. Watching this meltdown has been comical. Of course, if he's really that incompetent, it won't be so funny.

 

[Psumatt85]

I agree. The odds of Kraft being this incompetent are so slim that I have to believe there is somebody on board.

With Hartline gone, I want to believe this. I think the likelihood of him being this stupid is incredible. What keeps me pessimistic is Penn state has exceeded its allotment of very stupid people over the last 15 years

 

[Phlebitis]

What keeps me pessimistic is Penn state has exceeded its allotment of very stupid people over the last 15 years

OK, that is a good point.

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

are you guys being serious? you think there is somebody already on board, and he's waiting out the playoffs?

We're f*cked. At this point, I think there is a better chance Kraft gets fired before he inks a coach.

 

[KingoftheBigTen]

Theres a future potential reality where James Franklin is remembered as the winner of this divorce.

 

[WVilleLion23]

Did we really want Hartline? He doesn't seem to be a cultural fit at PSU with the DWI's and do we want a guy with all those tats representing the school?

At this point, I don’t believe Kraft is a cultural fit at Penn State.

 

[BringonBama]

There is no way someone is on board in the playoffs if they were waiting on BYU guy yesterday. Just doesn't add up. Get down to Louisville and get Brohm. You will never win less than 10 games. He has never had elite talent and all he does is win and outcoach the opponent more often than not.

 

[WVilleLion23]

Kraft could hire Mr. Hanky from South Park and at PC he would try to make it sound like he got his guy he wanted all along and that it wasn’t a **** hire

 

[WVilleLion23]

There is no way someone is on board in the playoffs if they were waiting on BYU guy yesterday. Just doesn't add up. Get down to Louisville and get Brohm. You will never win less than 10 games. He has never had elite talent and all he does is win and outcoach the opponent more often than not.

Ummmm what is his excuse this season?

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

Theres a future potential reality where James Franklin is remembered as the winner of this divorce.

Eh, he got us this recruiting cycle. And everyone knows Franklin's best attribute is the offseason. But he's coaching at a dogshit program. Wait til game day, that's when he does his worst work.

By the way, anyone see the news Franklin is targeting Howle as his OC? I mean, that's James Franklin in a nutshell. Hire a first-time playcaller and try and figure out all season what your team's identity is.

 

[Midnighter]

Eh, he got us this recruiting cycle. And everyone knows Franklin's best attribute is the offseason. But he's coaching at a dogshit program. Wait til game day, that's when he does his worst work.

By the way, anyone see the news Franklin is targeting Howle as his OC? I mean, that's James Franklin in a nutshell. Hire a first-time playcaller and try and figure out all season what your team's identity is.

Yeah, reminds me of that scene in Bloodsport where one guy shows off by smashing a brick with his hands and Bolo Yeung says, 'Very good - but brick not hit back.' James is smashing bricks right now. We'll hit back soon.

 

[CyphaPSU]

Eh, he got us this recruiting cycle. And everyone knows Franklin's best attribute is the offseason. But he's coaching at a dogshit program. Wait til game day, that's when he does his worst work.

By the way, anyone see the news Franklin is targeting Howle as his OC? I mean, that's James Franklin in a nutshell. Hire a first-time playcaller and try and figure out all season what your team's identity is.

Howle will most likely be a good play-caller. Small sample size, but he did well when he had the opportunity to take over play calling.

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

At this point, I don’t believe Kraft is a cultural fit at Penn State.

I would agree w/that

 

[Sunshinedynomite 1]

Kraft is targeting -

Lennay Kekua

Those that know know

 

[NOYDB]

I am a Kentucky fan, and more so a college football fan. Why you havent went 100% after Brohm yet is crazy. The dude can flat out coach. He got caught off guard this year with injuries everywhere and a QB that didnt work out great from portal, but the dude can coach and gets the most out of his players.

He has always been my 2nd choice behind Urban Meyer.. I Would take Brohm in a second!

With PSU resources, he would be in the playoffs just about every damn year

 

[Bwifan]

Yeah, reminds me of that scene in Bloodsport where one guy shows off by smashing a brick with his hands and Bolo Yeung says, 'Very good - but brick not hit back.' James is smashing bricks right now. We'll hit back soon.

At this point I would love for them to go back to Urban and work out the differences to bring him on board.

 

[uscgpsu]

I think that if a person had "agreed to take this job", Kraft wouldn't be looking at Sitake or anyone else. If you already have your man, there is no need to look elsewhere.

100% agree with this

 

[Alphalion75]

Its a different set of circumstances, but this mess feels eerily like 2011......peering into the abyss.

 

[PSUFTG]

Denial is a powerful drug.

 

[Phlebitis]

He has always been my 2nd choice behind Urban Meyer.. I Would take Brohm in a second!

With PSU resources, he would be in the playoffs just about every damn year

I like him too, but he'd be our coach by now if they wanted him.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Thought I heard that Kraft and Sitake had a handshake agreement before news got out and the Army of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and Cookieman made him reconsider.

That’s still on Kraft.

 

[Bvillebaron]

With Hartline gone, I want to believe this. I think the likelihood of him being this stupid is incredible. What keeps me pessimistic is Penn state has exceeded its allotment of very stupid people over the last 15 years

Oh O think there is room for one more.

 

[BillDiehlNorstar]

Could klieman “retirement” be related ?

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

Is Brohm even still in contention? I thought Louisville was extending him? And that he would never leave Louisville?

 

[Bvillebaron]

Eh, he got us this recruiting cycle. And everyone knows Franklin's best attribute is the offseason. But he's coaching at a dogshit program. Wait til game day, that's when he does his worst work.

By the way, anyone see the news Franklin is targeting Howle as his OC? I mean, that's James Franklin in a nutshell. Hire a first-time playcaller and try and figure out all season what your team's identity is.

But Kraft looks like he’s working on making Penn State one too.

 

[LuvDaLions]

Its a different set of circumstances, but this mess feels eerily like 2011......peering into the abyss.

I think we were put on "double secret probation" by our own administration. Maybe Neeli is actually Dean Wormer's love child...

 

[Anon1764700013]

I just want this solved...

 

[Bvillebaron]

Yeah, reminds me of that scene in Bloodsport where one guy shows off by smashing a brick with his hands and Bolo Yeung says, 'Very good - but brick not hit back.' James is smashing bricks right now. We'll hit back soon.

I’m 73. Any chance that’s during the rest of my lifetime?

 

[NoSoup4U]

To me that has always made the most sense. He easily could have hired dozens of coaches worth a shot by now. Watching this meltdown has been comical. Of course, if he's really that incompetent, it won't be so funny.

that narrative doesn't hold any water. See Kiffin, Hartline, Stein, Morris, Sumerall. Who is on your list that this would be?




Lest go down the list of HC's to consider [caveat that any Coordinators at these schools could be targets but Hartline and Stein show most likely not]

So Not ==>Lanning, Day, Smart, Cignetti, Freeman, Elko, Kiffin, Mcguire

also not in consideration as they have Playoff hopes in the 11 and 12 seed spots Chesney, Sumerall, Sitake, Morris

so you mean to tell me our chances at current HC's that have playoffs on the horizon are

Diaz, Cristoball, Deboer, Venables, Elliot?

Thats who you are suggesting we have in the fold because they don't want to announce till playoffs are over?

so tell me of those guys who has a legit shot at an NC maybe Bama, the others can announce easily tthat they took the PSU job with out any impact on their playoff hopes

so lets also add and that:
1) excludes Venables who signed an extension to 29

2) excludes Cristoball

3) maybe Elliot He earns a contract extension if he wins his 10th game....are we waiting for that as in he wins 10 he wants to stay at UVA and burn your hypothetical offer in his hand? Come on lets be real here

4)maybe Diaz for ties back to PSU but he has bad blood history with Kraft , but ok why not announce he is hired already that really going to impact Duke?

5) Leaving us only with Deboer (per your suggestion) who would leave Bama to go to PSU dependent upon his playoff outcome? I'll leave this here

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

At this point I would love for them to go back to Urban and work out the differences to bring him on board.

Yeah just give him like $25m per year, full NIL control and unlimited access to co-eds

 

[EricLAllen]

Whoever it is will likely be worse than everything on that list. Indeed, no soup for us.

 

[Bwifan]

Yeah just give him like $25m per year, full NIL control and unlimited access to co-eds

I am good on the first 2 points.... not sure his family would appreciate the 3rd point.

 

[rigi19040]

Let's examine the short list of coaches who want to come in and take over a program with no recruits in the entire class, a ton of seniors leaving, and half of what's left portaling out in a few weeks...I got Terry Smith and nobody else, literally. Hire him today and then fire this clown Kraft

So we were better off with Franklin?


I used to ask the Franklin haters, to name a better coach that actually wants the job. Usually got crickets. Occasionally I would hear rhule. Lol.

 

[Dbsteel]

To me that has always made the most sense. He easily could have hired dozens of coaches worth a shot by now. Watching this meltdown has been comical. Of course, if he's really that incompetent, it won't be so funny.

I think he is just really incompetent. Why would any coach not announce and let the whole class crumble?

 

[Achowalogan]

I’m starting to the think that if he were truly staying at BYU that would be been made public today …

With Hartline gone, I want to believe this. I think the likelihood of him being this stupid is incredible. What keeps me pessimistic is Penn state has exceeded its allotment of very stupid people over the last 15 years

To imply that members of the home grown terrorists 2011 Board of Trustees were simply stupid is an insult to stupid people….

 

[84lion]

At this point I would love for them to go back to Urban and work out the differences to bring him on board.

Agreed, but Meyer would probably demand that Kraft and his staff be fired, Neeli be fired, and the BOT be tossed out at first opportunity. I'd be on board with that, but they wouldn't.

 

[PSUcup]

Kraft is targeting -

Lennay Kekua

Those that know know

Lol

 

[LB99]

Slowly getting to where Smith is going to get this by default.

IF he still wants it after being way down on the list of Kraft’s options.

 

[LionJim]

Hartline to UCF. SIAP.