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KingLando

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I don’t have half the board calling me a narcissist, blowhard and everything else daily. I also don’t feel the need to be on a board 24/7, trying to dominate every thread, insulting anybody and everybody who has an opinion different than mine, and making asinine comments based off some ‘inside sources’. That’s what I don’t have. You’re right on that KingTroll
Yet you're someone that would care if they called you a narcissist or a blowhard simply because of their own shortcomings.
I'm not on here 24-7. It's weird--when I don't respond immediately I'm "hiding" and when I do respond I "live here"
The Troll things is great--next I'm a Michigan and Ohio State
 

Ludd

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I did--find one time I said it was a guarantee or said Hartline would come as an OC--you're wrong as always because you don't pay attention or lack the intelligence to follow a discussion. The fact you think I have guaranteed it is laughable but it's predictable at the same time. Honestly, the second you said I claimed Hartline would come as an OC you proved you don't have a clue and you're confusing posters.
I never said you guaranteed it, but you posted about your double secret source that knew all things and Elko was the guy (until he wasn’t), then it was Hartline unless Urban wanted it…both wrong. Please don’t use your reliable source anymore.
 

Ludd

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Ask yourself how many good teams out there were hoping to hire Terry Smith as their head coach. So why would he be the answer here?
He was at the bottom of a long list that is now a very short list with him getting closer to the top every day.
 

JVP_Yahweh

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Lynn the USC DC and former Penn Stater might be a good risk. His dad is a longtime NFL guy.
I said this 2 months ago and was told it was a horrible idea. I think Lynn has a ton of upside. I guess being a coordinator make him a non-starter for kraft
 
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KingLando

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I never said you guaranteed it, but you posted about your double secret source that knew all things and Elko was the guy (until he wasn’t), then it was Hartline unless Urban wanted it…both wrong. Please don’t use your reliable source anymore.
"Double secret source" is yout nonsense
I said the same thing the entire time. Kraft was going full in on Elko because Urban said no (I feel like most people see that now) and that plan B was Hartline. That's all I said.
Its cute because some here know who I talk to but believe whatever you want.
Still waiting for when I said Hartline was coming as the OC. Maybe you accept you're wrong there.
 

KingLando

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I said this 2 months ago and was told it was a horrible idea. I think Lynn has a ton of upside. I guess being a coordinator make him a non-starter for kraft
Lynn is a better option than Smith. Not ideal but if he's still looking I could live with that.
 

Ludd

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"Double secret source" is yout nonsense
I said the same thing the entire time. Kraft was going full in on Elko because Urban said no (I feel like most people see that now) and that plan B was Hartline. That's all I said.
Its cute because some here know who I talk to but believe whatever you want.
Still waiting for when I said Hartline was coming as the OC. Maybe you accept you're wrong there.
So you’re hanging your hat on me being wrong once when you were wrong multiple times…got it.
 

KingLando

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So you’re hanging your hat on me being wrong once when you were wrong multiple times…got it.
What was wrong? You keep saying I'm wrong as though you don't grasp what a plan is and things change. As I've been preaching. Be patient...you'll see. Just like I don't believe the hire is the debacle some think...yet
 

JVP_Yahweh

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The statecollege.com article makes some good points but it also suffers from the some very weak analysis

  • A hand-picked staff of coordinators and assistants - So what? Every coach has this luxury
  • What was once viewed as the best offensive and defensive coordinator duo in the country - This is complete hyperbole. AK is a mediocre OC at best and Knowles won because he had to change his D due to how bad OSU looked at Oregon last year and largely won due to having 5* & 4* talent at almost every position
  • The highest paid coordinator in the history of college football, poached from a conference rival where he led the No. 1 defense to a national championship just one season ago - See above
  • A top-10 roster in talent, based on the 247Sports team talent composite - OK based on recruiting rankings and not performance and development. Also that means that there other teams better in individual ranking
  • A senior, five-star quarterback - that was in the wrong system and had mental mistakes in the biggest games he played in
  • One of the top running back rooms, offensive lines and secondaries in the country - Running backs: true, O-line: average, Secondary: Inconsistent and leaning a new system for the 1st time
  • Three proven transfer wide receivers who totaled 2,446 yards last season - Against weaker competition in every case
  • Self-proclaimed “alignment” with university president Neeli Bendapudi and Kraft - If alignment, why the need to go over Kraft's head?
  • Top-tier facilities - Yup, check
  • Top-tier NIL - sounds like they maximized it for the first time
  • A Charmin-soft nonconference slate - absolutely soft
  • A manageable Big Ten slate - I still had them losing to Oregon and O-State this year even if everything was setup perfectly
  • A top-10 matchup at night, in a White Out in Beaver Stadium, off a bye week, against a team traveling across the country that stayed in Altoona the night before - The overall record in White Out games in not exactly lopsided
  • A No. 2 ranking entering the season - I would have probably put them around 4 but my expectation was 10-2 and not making the B1G CCG but making it to the CFP as an at-large and winning one game
  • A committed fanbase that sold out every home game and traveled well to road games - Check
 

JVP_Yahweh

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He’s from the rivals board. It’s possible to have good conversations with him, but it doesn’t happen too often. It was highly suspected there that he is neurodivergent.
I never thought of him being on the spectrum but it totally makes sense now that you said it
 

Nits1989

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Campbell is a very good coach. He would do very well at PSU. And he is used to working with very little, perfect for a job where the next head coach is going to work with a depleted roster over the next year or two.
I mean Kraft likely has little chance of getting Campbell, not that Campbell won’t be successful.
 
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Ludd

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What was wrong? You keep saying I'm wrong as though you don't grasp what a plan is and things change. As I've been preaching. Be patient...you'll see. Just like I don't believe the hire is the debacle some think...yet
It’s a debacle. I have absolutely no faith in Kraft at this point. Not to mention there aren’t many quality candidates left. I wanted to believe he had someone lined up and was waiting for the CCG’s to be done, but that was blown out of the water by his interaction with the BYU coach….you don’t talk to another coach if you have your guy. I believe Kraft thinks he has a big swinging d**k, but he’s found out it’s not very big.
 

JVP_Yahweh

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I mean Kraft likely has little chance of getting Campbell, not that Campbell won’t be successful.
I think Campbell is very good considering I-State doesn't have much to offer. At the same time I think he has turned down bigger programs. The plus is that he could bring a lot of players with him on day 1
 
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I mean Kraft likely has little chance of getting Campbell, not that Campbell won’t be successful.

Krafty The Clown is now busy getting Campbell a big raise and contract extension while Rome continues to burn..... awesome stuff, you couldn't make this **** up. Apparently Nelli is every bit the empty-suit hack that her boy Krafty is..... irresponsible and negligent to let Incompetent Kraft take us down this road yet again as Rome burns to the ground.
 
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SummitLion

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I said he couldn't win big games at Gateway...that was his rep and we saw it against Indiana. He couldn't even win the WPIAL with all the advantages he had
Put that game in perspective. They had lost 5 straight games, lost their starting QB, and were 17 pt dogs. I'm not happy how the game turned out, but for the 1s ti.e this year, they looked like a playoff caliber team.
 

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During the same period, I kept asking for the name of a better coach who we could actually get. Nobody ever had one. Nobody has one now. And we're right where we deserve to be- fukked royally.
There never has been one. But the situation with Franklin reached the point where you take the risk to get someone that isn't a surefire upgrade. There are only like 4-5 coaches that meet that criteria anyway and none were ever coming to PSU. You can't hang on to Franklin in perpetuity and avoid the risk of hiring a lower tier established coach or up and coming youngster with high risk/reward forever.
 
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Got a link? I can’t seem to find the article
Under Penn State sports.
The statecollege.com article makes some good points but it also suffers from the some very weak analysis

  • A hand-picked staff of coordinators and assistants - So what? Every coach has this luxury
  • What was once viewed as the best offensive and defensive coordinator duo in the country - This is complete hyperbole. AK is a mediocre OC at best and Knowles won because he had to change his D due to how bad OSU looked at Oregon last year and largely won due to having 5* & 4* talent at almost every position
  • The highest paid coordinator in the history of college football, poached from a conference rival where he led the No. 1 defense to a national championship just one season ago - See above
  • A top-10 roster in talent, based on the 247Sports team talent composite - OK based on recruiting rankings and not performance and development. Also that means that there other teams better in individual ranking
  • A senior, five-star quarterback - that was in the wrong system and had mental mistakes in the biggest games he played in
  • One of the top running back rooms, offensive lines and secondaries in the country - Running backs: true, O-line: average, Secondary: Inconsistent and leaning a new system for the 1st time
  • Three proven transfer wide receivers who totaled 2,446 yards last season - Against weaker competition in every case
  • Self-proclaimed “alignment” with university president Neeli Bendapudi and Kraft - If alignment, why the need to go over Kraft's head?
  • Top-tier facilities - Yup, check
  • Top-tier NIL - sounds like they maximized it for the first time
  • A Charmin-soft nonconference slate - absolutely soft
  • A manageable Big Ten slate - I still had them losing to Oregon and O-State this year even if everything was setup perfectly
  • A top-10 matchup at night, in a White Out in Beaver Stadium, off a bye week, against a team traveling across the country that stayed in Altoona the night before - The overall record in White Out games in not exactly lopsided
  • A No. 2 ranking entering the season - I would have probably put them around 4 but my expectation was 10-2 and not making the B1G CCG but making it to the CFP as an at-large and winning one game
  • A committed fanbase that sold out every home game and traveled well to road games - Check

The analysis you call weak are not. They all lead back to Franklin, his statements, lies and weaknesses.
 

SummitLion

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Franklin is as thin-skinned and spiteful as they come. He still has hurt feelings towards Maryland and he tried his best to ruin Vanderbilt when he left there. I expect many years of him trying to jab at Penn State and I don’t know why anyone would even care. It’s a sad and pathetic look for a grown man.
Post of the day. I wasn't happy with his pettiness while at PSU, and now that he's gone, he keeps going.
 

KingLando

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It’s a debacle. I have absolutely no faith in Kraft at this point. Not to mention there aren’t many quality candidates left. I wanted to believe he had someone lined up and was waiting for the CCG’s to be done, but that was blown out of the water by his interaction with the BYU coach….you don’t talk to another coach if you have your guy. I believe Kraft thinks he has a big swinging d**k, but he’s found out it’s not very big.
Define qualified--many here think Terry Smith is qualified--if that's the cases there's 100s if not 1000s of qualified people
We don't know how much of the story is true regarding Sitake--let's be honest
He could completely have screwed it up--but we don't know yet
People close to Penn State (not my source) are saying it's going to fine--we'll see.
 

KingLando

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Put that game in perspective. They had lost 5 straight games, lost their starting QB, and were 17 pt dogs. I'm not happy how the game turned out, but for the 1s ti.e this year, they looked like a playoff caliber team.
They played well--I give him full credit for that. Same with Nebraska (I don't think we played well against Iowa, Michigan State, Ohio State and definitely not Rutgers) but he did mismanage the game at the end. We can't spin that. The ending was Franklin-esque.
 

Thorndike2021

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I think my money is now on Daboll.

That wouldn't be a bad hire. Should be able to develop young QBs and put together a pretty good staff. And (drum roll!) he's currently available.
 

SRURock24

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I think my money is now on Daboll.

That wouldn't be a bad hire. Should be able to develop young QBs and put together a pretty good staff. And (drum roll!) he's currently available.
I would take Campbell (don’t think he would come) or Mullen before Daboll. Also would look at Coordinators like Schumann or Lynn.
 
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Thorndike2021

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At this point, why don’t they wait and go after an NFL guy? Kraft should wait until the Steelers are eliminated and make an offer for Tomlin.
You've got to be kidding. I wouldn't give you a wrinkled $2 bill for Tomlin. He's stuck on a defensive system that hasn't worked for nearly 18 years. His offense (check out the passing charts for the Steelers) don't believe in passing the ball anywhere near the middle of the field or more than 8 yards down field. No, Tomlin is a washed up fraud. He was never a good football coach.

Tomlin would do one thing...he would have everyone pining for the good old CJF days.
 
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Thorndike2021

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Daboll has experience at a very high level of CFB and the NFL. Just because the Gnats aren't world beaters does not mean he can't coach. If he's up for a challenge I would make a run at him before Campbell.
 

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Daboll has experience at a very high level of CFB and the NFL. Just because the Gnats aren't world beaters does not mean he can't coach. If he's up for a challenge I would make a run at him before Campbell.
Giants fan here. Daboll is a totally incompetent head coach. Players left the Giants to flourish elsewhere. He made terrible in-game decisions .
 
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SRURock24

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Daboll has experience at a very high level of CFB and the NFL. Just because the Gnats aren't world beaters does not mean he can't coach. If he's up for a challenge I would make a run at him before Campbell.
Save for one year at Alabama he has very little college experience.
 
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