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PSUSignore

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It seems pretty safe to say that if we end up hiring Terry, it was against the will of Kraft. If that happens it's definitely a show of support from other influential people such as the BOT or boosters. It likely is also a signal that Kraft's future at PSU will probably be short lived, with those people having to take back control of the hiring decision from the man it was entrusted to.
 
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SoCalLion

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Franklin is as thin-skinned and spiteful as they come. He still has hurt feelings towards Maryland and he tried his best to ruin Vanderbilt when he left there. I expect many years of him trying to jab at Penn State and I don’t know why anyone would even care. It’s a sad and pathetic look for a grown man.

Yep. I'd go further and label Franklin an "entitled, full-of-himself a**hole who loves to play the role of an aggrieved victim."

There's a lot of evidence for the claim:

  • Getting into it with some fans at our spring game. While the game was in progress (!!!!!) no less. His players are out there hustling and working, and he's arguing with some fans who called him a "fraud." To top it off, Franklin makes sure he has the "last word" and comes across as the "good guy" by saying "Happy Birthday!" to the fans.
  • Oh wait, that's not even the first time that's happened! The end of the 2018 game with Ohio State!
  • Using his daughter as a human shield near the end of his PSU regime.
  • The constant (it must have been a dozen times total!) appeals to the administration for a raise and contract extension. Including this past summer, when he went around his bosses back after his boos (correctly) told him NO.
  • The story from March 2020 and the pandemic, when Franklin was holed up in his place in Telluride. He wanted some free weights: so he STOLE some 25-pound dumbbells from the community gym. And then made it out like it was some other guy's fault, because that other guy used the gym too much. A much easier solution: Franklin and his 8-figure-net-worth could have ordered a few $30 dumbbells off of Amazon.
  • The **** with Maryland, as you said. For goodness sake, get over it. Maryland was 15+ years ago!
  • His hypocricy in leaving Vanderbilt. While at Vandy he chastised a recruit for flipping from Vandy to UGA. Yet it was perfectly fine when all his early PSU guys flipped too. Just be consistent dude.
There's 24 other bullet points I could write too ...............
 

PSUcup

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Yep. I'd go further and label Franklin an "entitled, full-of-himself a**hole who loves to play the role of an aggrieved victim."

There's a lot of evidence for the claim:

  • Getting into it with some fans at our spring game. While the game was in progress (!!!!!) no less. His players are out there hustling and working, and he's arguing with some fans who called him a "fraud." To top it off, Franklin makes sure he has the "last word" and comes across as the "good guy" by saying "Happy Birthday!" to the fans.
  • Oh wait, that's not even the first time that's happened! The end of the 2018 game with Ohio State!
  • Using his daughter as a human shield near the end of his PSU regime.
  • The constant (it must have been a dozen times total!) appeals to the administration for a raise and contract extension. Including this past summer, when he went around his bosses back after his boos (correctly) told him NO.
  • The story from March 2020 and the pandemic, when Franklin was holed up in his place in Telluride. He wanted some free weights: so he STOLE some 25-pound dumbbells from the community gym. And then made it out like it was some other guy's fault, because that other guy used the gym too much. A much easier solution: Franklin and his 8-figure-net-worth could have ordered a few $30 dumbbells off of Amazon.
  • The **** with Maryland, as you said. For goodness sake, get over it. Maryland was 15+ years ago!
  • His hypocricy in leaving Vanderbilt. While at Vandy he chastised a recruit for flipping from Vandy to UGA. Yet it was perfectly fine when all his early PSU guys flipped too. Just be consistent dude.
There's 24 other bullet points I could write too ...............
Wait … what’s this story with the dumbbells ???
 

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Yep. I'd go further and label Franklin an "entitled, full-of-himself a**hole who loves to play the role of an aggrieved victim."

There's a lot of evidence for the claim:

  • Getting into it with some fans at our spring game. While the game was in progress (!!!!!) no less. His players are out there hustling and working, and he's arguing with some fans who called him a "fraud." To top it off, Franklin makes sure he has the "last word" and comes across as the "good guy" by saying "Happy Birthday!" to the fans.
  • Oh wait, that's not even the first time that's happened! The end of the 2018 game with Ohio State!
  • Using his daughter as a human shield near the end of his PSU regime.
  • The constant (it must have been a dozen times total!) appeals to the administration for a raise and contract extension. Including this past summer, when he went around his bosses back after his boos (correctly) told him NO.
  • The story from March 2020 and the pandemic, when Franklin was holed up in his place in Telluride. He wanted some free weights: so he STOLE some 25-pound dumbbells from the community gym. And then made it out like it was some other guy's fault, because that other guy used the gym too much. A much easier solution: Franklin and his 8-figure-net-worth could have ordered a few $30 dumbbells off of Amazon.
  • The **** with Maryland, as you said. For goodness sake, get over it. Maryland was 15+ years ago!
  • His hypocricy in leaving Vanderbilt. While at Vandy he chastised a recruit for flipping from Vandy to UGA. Yet it was perfectly fine when all his early PSU guys flipped too. Just be consistent dude.
There's 24 other bullet points I could write too ...............
Keep going!!
 
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Connorpozlee

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It seems pretty safe to say that if we end up hiring Terry, it was against the will of Kraft. If that happens it's definitely a show of support from other influential people such as the BOT or boosters. It likely is also a signal that Kraft's future at PSU will probably be short lived, with those people having to take back control of the hiring decision from the man it was entrusted to.
I can’t see any way the BOT would be in support of Terry Smith. I would be more likely to believe Kraft wanted him and the BOT refused because of the explicit Paterno mentions.
 

SoCalLion

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Wait … what’s this story with the dumbbells ???


This story fits a lot of general CJF themes:

  • HE is the victim. It's not a case of CJF being wrong for taking the dumbbells. It's the OTHER GUY's fault for "dominating the weight room."
  • CJF also makes sure to paint HIMSELF as the "good guy."
  • CJF is the only one in his stories who has to deal with challenging situations (a daughter with sickle cell). In CJF's world, CJF and CJF alone has been cursed by God with hardships.
  • CJF's inability to see the simple straightforward solution. Take $30 out of your $5,000,000 bank account (which would be generating a few hundred dollars a day in interest alone) and online order a 25-pound dumbbell.
 

PSUcup

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This story fits a lot of general CJF themes:

  • HE is the victim. It's not a case of CJF being wrong for taking the dumbbells. It's the OTHER GUY's fault for "dominating the weight room."
  • CJF also makes sure to paint HIMSELF as the "good guy."
  • CJF is the only one in his stories who has to deal with challenging situations (a daughter with sickle cell). In CJF's world, CJF and CJF alone has been cursed by God with hardships.
  • CJF's inability to see the simple straightforward solution. Take $30 out of your $5,000,000 bank account (which would be generating a few hundred dollars a day in interest alone) and online order a 25-pound dumbbell.
Wow. Thats unreal.
 
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Yep. I'd go further and label Franklin an "entitled, full-of-himself a**hole who loves to play the role of an aggrieved victim."

There's a lot of evidence for the claim:

  • Getting into it with some fans at our spring game. While the game was in progress (!!!!!) no less. His players are out there hustling and working, and he's arguing with some fans who called him a "fraud." To top it off, Franklin makes sure he has the "last word" and comes across as the "good guy" by saying "Happy Birthday!" to the fans.
  • Oh wait, that's not even the first time that's happened! The end of the 2018 game with Ohio State!
  • Using his daughter as a human shield near the end of his PSU regime.
  • The constant (it must have been a dozen times total!) appeals to the administration for a raise and contract extension. Including this past summer, when he went around his bosses back after his boos (correctly) told him NO.
  • The story from March 2020 and the pandemic, when Franklin was holed up in his place in Telluride. He wanted some free weights: so he STOLE some 25-pound dumbbells from the community gym. And then made it out like it was some other guy's fault, because that other guy used the gym too much. A much easier solution: Franklin and his 8-figure-net-worth could have ordered a few $30 dumbbells off of Amazon.
  • The **** with Maryland, as you said. For goodness sake, get over it. Maryland was 15+ years ago!
  • His hypocricy in leaving Vanderbilt. While at Vandy he chastised a recruit for flipping from Vandy to UGA. Yet it was perfectly fine when all his early PSU guys flipped too. Just be consistent dude.
There's 24 other bullet points I could write too ...............
Write em
 

JVP_Yahweh

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Again, nobody knows that, including every big national reporter. Do you honestly think Sitake was viewed internally as our savior? I don’t.
I don't either and it should never have come down to him or nothing. I am actually kinda relieved he didn't get it. As I said yesterday just give Smith a shot in 2026 + add some incentives and keep looking at the same time
 
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What I don't understand is how Kraft could not have kept Chesney "warm" while courting Sitake. Talk about not anticipating what could go wrong. He needed to tell Sitake that we need to sign the deal last Sat after their game with whomever it was. Then if Sitake waffles you cut bait because he is not showing enough interest and you consummate the deal with Chesney and announce it Sunday. How much money does Kraft make and he couldn't follow basic project management principles?
 

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What I don't understand is how Kraft could not have kept Chesney "warm" while courting Sitake. Talk about not anticipating what could go wrong. He needed to tell Sitake that we need to sign the deal last Sat after their game with whomever it was. Then if Sitake waffles you cut bait because he is not showing enough interest and you consummate the deal with Chesney and announce it Sunday. How much money does Kraft make and he couldn't follow basic project management principles?

Go read the article Why Franklin Had to Go on State College.com. Explains a lot about BGJ.
 

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What I don't understand is how Kraft could not have kept Chesney "warm" while courting Sitake. Talk about not anticipating what could go wrong. He needed to tell Sitake that we need to sign the deal last Sat after their game with whomever it was. Then if Sitake waffles you cut bait because he is not showing enough interest and you consummate the deal with Chesney and announce it Sunday. How much money does Kraft make and he couldn't follow basic project management principles?
He tried and failed. Put yourself in Chesney's shoes. How long are you going to let Kraft string you along, making it clear you are not his priority to hire? Coaches have egos, if they know they are second (or worse) fiddle to someone else they aren't going to tolerate it for long. And as signing day approaches, the patience for that proportionally disappears. I don't blame Chesney for eventually saying "screw this," and just going somewhere else where he was the #1 guy.

I think too many fans, and probably Kraft included, overestimate the power of the Penn St brand. We are a good program, not a great one. Arguably top 10, definitely 15, but with some factors that will immediately rub some the wrong way such as being in the middle of nowhere PA. You aren't going to be able to keep someone like Chesney, who's in demand elsewhere, just waiting and in limbo for very long. Just like you aren't going to have a line of elite coaches knocking on your door the day after you fire a coach like Franklin.
 

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We could be on here 10 years from now with 10 crappy seasons in a row and knuckleheads will still be saying Franklin had to go. You only get rid of one coach to make your program better…it’s not looking good so far.
Because you are using data that wasn't available at the time he was fired to sway your opinion. Franklin deserved to be fired as of the day he was fired. If we knew then that Kraft would botch the search like he has, or that we'd have 10 lousy seasons as you suggest, then of course we wouldn't have fired him. Hindsight is 20/20. You act on the information that's available at the time and at the time Franklin's relationship with PSU had run its course.
 

Ludd

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Because you are using data that wasn't available at the time he was fired to sway your opinion. Franklin deserved to be fired as of the day he was fired. If we knew then that Kraft would botch the search like he has, or that we'd have 10 lousy seasons as you suggest, then of course we wouldn't have fired him. Hindsight is 20/20. You act on the information that's available at the time and at the time Franklin's relationship with PSU had run its course.
I’ve been saying for the past few years they shouldn’t fire Franklin unless they had someone better lined up. That doesn’t take 20/20 hindsight, that just takes a moderate amount of business sense. And we don’t know what transpired between Kraft and Franklin that may have made Franklin’s relationship run its course. The AD’s job should not involve day to day involvement in coaching the athletic teams.
 
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The Franklin sucks horse is long dead but feel free to keep beating it if you must.

The only thing this tool beats more is his tiny pud. Talk about tilting at windmills. This guy is not a PSU football fan - he's a posing troll Franklin hater. Wish he would take his bizarre obsession and FDS psychological problem to Franklin's new employer, VaTech Boards, instead of continuing to post his bs on a PSU board.
 
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Yep, ultimately I think this is what it came down to... wasted time. It does sound like Kraft had real discussions with Elko, Deboer, and Sitake but he missed on all 3 and spent the whole search window wooing these 3 so when the last one fell apart yesterday there was nothing left. Now Kraft looks like a fool. And with every passing day whomever we try to hire has more and more leverage. Now we will end up playing a mid tier coach $12M a year because Sexton will put the screws to Kraft knowing there aren't any other coaches out there to hire. Those of you that thought we were overpaying Franklin (we weren't) are in for a rude awakening with the next contract.

Oh, the ones who told us it was so easy to win 10 games a year..... all you had to do was put on a PSU uniform and you're guaranteed 10 wins easy. You mean they're the naive, loudmouth a-holes that should just STFU with their FDS problems and let the adults here discuss PSU football??? You don't say.
 
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Franklin is not my hero. But kind of juvenile to claim that Franklin trolling over cookies is a dick move considering how he and his family were treated by some fans after the Northwestern game. Here’s a suggestion on how to respond which I fully endorse hire a damn coach, win those Big Ten and Nattys said we’re the standard and then troll Franklin as much as you want.

Exactly.
 

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I’ve been saying for the past few years they shouldn’t fire Franklin unless they had someone better lined up. That doesn’t take 20/20 hindsight, that just takes a moderate amount of business sense. And we don’t know what transpired between Kraft and Franklin that may have made Franklin’s relationship run its course. The AD’s job should not involve day to day involvement in coaching the athletic teams.
During the same period, I kept asking for the name of a better coach who we could actually get. Nobody ever had one. Nobody has one now. And we're right where we deserve to be- fukked royally.
 
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Catch1lion

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He tried and failed. Put yourself in Chesney's shoes. How long are you going to let Kraft string you along, making it clear you are not his priority to hire? Coaches have egos, if they know they are second (or worse) fiddle to someone else they aren't going to tolerate it for long. And as signing day approaches, the patience for that proportionally disappears. I don't blame Chesney for eventually saying "screw this," and just going somewhere else where he was the #1 guy.

I think too many fans, and probably Kraft included, overestimate the power of the Penn St brand. We are a good program, not a great one. Arguably top 10, definitely 15, but with some factors that will immediately rub some the wrong way such as being in the middle of nowhere PA. You aren't going to be able to keep someone like Chesney, who's in demand elsewhere, just waiting and in limbo for very long. Just like you aren't going to have a line of elite coaches knocking on your door the day after you fire a coach like Franklin.
For bring a supposed newbie to the game, Chesney knew better how to craft a deal by working multiple offers .
 
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So a statement to say that they have nothing they can say right now, and to sit tight and keep waiting like you have been for 2 months. That's going to placate alumni and fans?

Many of you complain about Franklin's word salad and now you are asking for some of that from the administration. The narrative is set because Kraft botched it, no statement is going to change anything or provide any sort of meaningful, factual information.

Many of these moron FDS trolls (not real PSU fans) deserve an empty-suit clown like Kraft. It's the "real" PSU fans (especially the ones with vested interest in PSU, like Alumni) that don't deserve this a-hole and the damage he is doing to our program.
 
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At this point I can’t believe people here are saying this person stinks that person stinks. We have to hope someone will take the job. The mess that was made is done move forward. I will cheer for the next coach whoever it is. We can’t be picky. Just like the 2 recruits we signed today. I will cheer for them because they want to be here.
Please don’t take this the wrong way but I was really happy to see Jackson Ford and Peyton Falzone commit to PSU. I think the world of them. Ford was a verbal the entire time and he stuck to his word. Falzone came out of nowhere it seems. I know it’s just 2 players but they’re really high quality players.
 
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Odious for sure.

The most odious part of Krafty The Clown is his good 'ole boy b1g roots - from Illinois, graduated from Indiana (first job was as an Asst AD at Indiana). Another b1g d-bag empty-suit (much like our prior President that flaming a-hole Erickson) doing massive damage to The Pennsylvania State University.