In other words, they’re being sane, realistic fans…wow, that’s a change of pace.
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Right. The ACC is dogshit. They might not even get a team in. They have no respect nationally.
Sure, James might win the worst conference in America by default. But that doesnt guarantee him a playoff spot anymore. And besides, how fun will it be to see him play OSU in the first round. Hello darkness my old friend.
“And we’ll throw in a set of dumbbells with a ribbon on them for you. And make sure we take a picture of it to post on our socials!”
I disagree as to Joe and Sandusky. As a lawyer, I regularly deal with people from all across the country, many of whom are college football fans. I have seen a significant change in perception toward Joe's "culpability", so much so that I am amazed by it. From Tuscaloosa to Eugene, views are far more positive than years ago. Now, admittedly I am generally dealing with people who are objective and have no agendas, but still, I find their views interesting.
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Your anecdotal experiences are 100% different than mine then.
Yup. Everything that's happening is a problem, but its a problem that can mostly/somewhat be solved by money. Which is the best kind of problem to have, if you have money, which we do.
SMU got in as the ACCCG loser last year. Franklin is making the playoff if he gets VT to 2 losses or wins the ACC with 3. The media will eat it up. They open up with 2 cream puffs and then they play maryland, who I expect him to blast into the stone age. Then they're off to the races.
Well if a person is unwilling to stand up for their principles and unwilling to defend a great coach (and even better human) just because they want to “move on”, then I wouldn’t want to be associated with such a person.
And how are 409ers holding the program hostage?
Actually I believe Terry's was simply acknowledging Joe for his 409 wins. Many fans wear those buttons on game day. Fans in Bama wear houndstooth hats and accessories to pay respects to Bear Bryant. I see nothing wrong with what Terry did.
BS. Terry knew what he was doing with the pin. If he wasn't, and he didn't understand what the optics were, then he isn't media savvy enough for the position. It might actually end up working out for him because of how Kraft is bungling this, but it was absolutely done to drum up support.
Frankly I have more respect for Terry for not caring what the media thinks. The man probably has more integrity in his pinky than all of the combined media.
409 is great, but so is finding someone other than Terry Smith for the head coaching job.
KDB- never a conversation . Has Kraft just been playing in his office with plastic army men ?
It is hard to believe the self-importance of this kid thinking he can coerce Penn State University on potentially a 100-million-dollar decision by threatening to quit their football team.
Apparently, but when you use a phrase like "100% unsuccessful in meaningfully changing anybody's opinion" you leave yourself open to charges of agenda bias. No matter, I have a 3PM call to an attorney in Tallahassee. I will seek his opinion.
Hostage, looks like the only option, and they are choosing no one. Rather kill the program than backtrack on 1 % on a 15 year old narrative
SIAP - the CDT (grain of salt) is reporting that they “have expressed interest or had conversations with three notable names who are currently the focus of the search — Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Tommy Rees, Ohio State defensive coordinator Matt Patricia and Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell.” Also reporting that Smith is “on the outside looking in.”
So your thinking is we need to ignore the PSU history and players from 1950-2011 to insure Sandusky doesn’t come up?
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Please no Rees or Patricia. I think I'd rather have Daboll. Definitely prefer Campbell to those.
1% my butt.
The "409ers" want the whole enchilada. Statue back up, stadium named after Paterno, announcers fawning about JoePa every game, him appearing in videos a dozen times a game, et cetera.
You can't give the "409ers" 1% because they'll literally NEVER shut up in wanting more, more, more, more, more, more, more.
There's got to be more to the story between Kraft and Franklin then. I can't see Franklin being this upset just over not getting a new contact last year and getting fired, he knows that's part of the business. Some other factors must have happened behind the scenes to break the so-called alignment Franklin had been touting.
I have some ISU friends, they would hate us. They still bring up Cael regularly.
The problem is not their loyalty to Franklin or Terry. That’s natural and will dissipate once the future plan is in place and shared. The problem is Kraft is acting like an idiot, and not only is giving them nothing to believe in, he’s sabotaging their chances in 2026 by not putting anything in place
Hire a top flight GM. I am not sure about Mullen but I lean toward more of a "ball coach" and not a CEO who loses every big game like we had before.
Just like we were off to the races after our 3 cupcakes to start the year with all our talent?
2026: Va, @ Clemson, @ Miami, GT, Pitt
2027: @ ND, @ Va, @ Lou, @ SMU, Clemson, Miami
2028: ND, Va, @ Miami, @ Pitt, FSU, Lou, SMU
Some of those teams probably won’t be that great but pretending 2 losses every year is doable is crazy. 2027 is going to be painful.
Ah yes....I forgot about Cael and his ISU connection. Hmmmm.....need to massage that a bit.
They are busy eating all of the crumbl cookies that were delivered yesterday
Ok , I’ll bite. So hiring Terry Smith( which I agree was a bad option until I realized we had a clueless AD), means it will be stipulated that the statue goes up, the stadium name is changed, the stadium experience videos and the agenda of the tv announcers who are not employed by Penn state all change,? Therefore, it is better to not have a 2026 class, and we might lose a large portion of players to the portal, this is all ok because it might be viewed as a small win for the fans of the winningest coach in college football history.
Just trying to ensure I’m clear.
Give me the football guy (Campbell) and pair him with elite resources.
Rojas scrubbed his social medias of anything PSU a week ago. Are we supposed to believe his threat? All of this is making us look like a dysfunctional bunch. I hope it doesn’t scare away Campbell. I’m OK with Terry taking the job, but I’m also OK with the university believing that Matt Campbell is the better candidate.
If Kraft is not fired immediately, there is no leadershipKDB- never a conversation . Has Kraft just been playing in his office with plastic army men ?