He wouldn't take the job anyway. Or at least I hope he wouldn't settle for that when schools are said to be interested in talking to him about being a HC. Seems Terry has options. Good for him.
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Or actually healthy enough to play football which continues to be a big problem for him and us
Players are now on the slave market bought and sold daily. A sad state of affairs college football finds itself in. Agents put them on the Block and universities become their masters. Welcome to the ever-evolving world where some things never change, they just take on a different appearance.
I'm skeptical of some of these claims but if there is truth to it PSU needs to do something to make it known. They can't allow the most powerful agent in college sports to black ball PSU without a fight as that is something that has long term implications.
I'm up for that. I'm all in on finding the statue and placing it on the 50-yard line for every pregame ceremony.
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Nits nixed again: DeBoer denies PSU job interest
Alabama coach Kalen DeBoer said he is not interested in other jobs, including the opening at Penn State.
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We’re a$$.
Sounds like the Deboer stuff was an intentional smokescreen to distract from Sitake as they wanted it quiet to avoid what happened on Monday with boosters stepping up. They needed someone that was still likely to play in conference championships and the playoffs for it to be an effective distraction. Considering there had been reports about Deboer maybe not fitting in there, this was a good smokescreen candidate. Of course they mentioned Freeman too, but that was always less believable or likely than Deboer. There were probably others with light discussions and tire-kicking going on. I still think it's odd but it appears as if anyone without head coaching experience already wasn't much of a consideration, with Chesney maybe being the only one without P4 head coach experience in the mix.
It sounds like the candidates that got into deeper discussions were Elko, Chesney and Sitake. Elko died on the vine with his extension, Sitake emerged next with Chesney being strung along as plan B. Then Sitake changed his mind and Chesney lost patience with PSU, opting for UCLA.
Warren Sapp used to have a similar perspective that he was pretty vocal about. I always looked at the relationship more from the mercenary perspective. In other words, they weren't the victims, rather the extortionists.
When Sapp was still in school his perspective was fairly accurate. However, with the wide open transfer portal that players have today, you are no longer stuck on the Massa's farm working for next to nothing. If you have talent you have multiple opportunities to increase your bag over a college career. Hell, it is almost a better deal than a lot of the low end NFL players have where you have to get through your rookie contract to make bank.
1. As you said much greater recent success.
2, Much, much easier talent acquisition. Bama recruits itself. Penn State does not.
3, Tougher to win is debatable. SEC play is not all that of late..
4. Fans are absolutely not more demanding, ask Franklin, and Penn State is a complete dumpster fire that he will have to fix before becoming competitive.
5. The culture fit and location is surely not my cup of tea, but honestly neither was State College when I was there for grad work. Winter sucked.
6. Resources should be comparable.
Main question is why? Its not that he is hurting for cash. He is flush. So, the decision will be made on different grounds.
Everything is dumpster fire.
2, Much, much easier talent acquisition. Bama recruits itself. Penn State does not.
3, Tougher to win is debatable. SEC play is not all that of late..
4. Fans are absolutely not more demanding, ask Franklin, and Penn State is a complete dumpster fire that he will have to fix before becoming competitive.
5. The culture fit and location is surely not my cup of tea, but honestly neither was State College when I was there for grad work. Winter sucked.
6. Resources should be comparable.
Main question is why? Its not that he is hurting for cash. He is flush. So, the decision will be made on different grounds.
Everything is dumpster fire.
Well genius we know it’s been 54 days since he fired Franklin, got a head start on every program except UCLA on a coaching search and still hasn’t hired a coach. Did you miss that?
Honestly, back then I didn't even think about it when they were in college, we all looked at it totally different. I was thinking the NFL, which of course now is similar. I still do kind of think of it from the mercenary perspective though. When their question is ultimately "how much are you going to pay me to do it for you?" it fits the definition.
Imagine if Terry takes a job with Memphis or UConn out of nowhere. Kraft would have to call Bishop McDevitts coach at that point.
Yeah...I've been there for football games (2) and turf installations (3). It's not a place that I would want to spend any time in, let alone live there. The nearby Mercedes plant is the most interesting part of the whole town imo.
You too. Go to the Penn State site, look up Kraft's email and phone number and give him your orders, instead of whining on a message board.
If you genuinely think the ACC should s the “worst” conference in America, you need help for your Franklin Derangement Syndrome.
He literally didn't say anything...something like "that's a good thing" when your name is out there
Terry going elsewhere means nothing. He literally can't hire him and keep his job
That sounds about right…would solve a lot of problems
It's by far the worst of the P4...
It's not MAC level but Miami being ranked behind ND shows they're not respected at all
Because of a “news” report? But he will get fired because of how those as handled…
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If anyone actually believes Franklin is trying to sabotage Kraft’s hiring of a new coach, they must also believe Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are real too.
The real issue with Kraft is he is incompetent and over valued the Penn State “brand” and how well it “recruits itself”. I’m beginning to think some potential coaches don’t want to come here because they view him as an over bearing meddler who has created a toxic environment. I could be wrong and he may still pull a rabbit out of his hat but I doubt it.
JoeBots will never be satisfied with anyone else. At this point, JoeBots are more fueled by hatred of anything that isn't related to worship of Joe than they even are by their love of Joe.
Trying to please them is like peeing into an endless abyss ... you're never filling it up.
They're just toxic.
So, the correct solution is to not try. Either JoeBots change their ways and jump on board, or, you have to cut bait with them and move on.
For not accomplishing anything in the last 2 months, missing signing day, signing two recruits, and still having no idea who to hire on 12/4