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[Catch1lion]

Neeli and Kraft better start a busking routine if they want to attract a coach. Need Mo’ money -----
Following the firings of James Franklin and Billy Napier, Penn State and Florida are viewed as two of the best jobs in college football despite their combined record of 6-12 this season.

Both programs are among the biggest brands in the sport, and according to 247Sports, have some of the biggest "NIL efforts" in college football as well. Brad Crawford revealed that Penn State ranks No. 25 in its NIL efforts at $386 million, while Florida ranks No. 4 at $763 million. While both jobs are rich with history and have the resources, landing a high-profile candidate seems to be getting more difficult by the day.

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

I simply do not understand the love affair some have with Hartline to PS as a HC. At best he's an at-risk hire a 50-50 hire. This is not the time for a 50-50 guy at all. As I've said before it's not going to be Hartline or they would have hired him already, he said if offered he would take the job. He like Meyer wasn't offered and imo won't be offered.

Based off of who is "reportedly" left, what's the other option?

The chances Elko is the next coach are low.
Brohm, Key, Lea are all looking at extensions.
Drink? Relatively low risk, but is he getting us over the hump?

Hartline is a huge risk, yes. But his upside is intriguing, especially vs someone like Drinkawitz.

 

[Bwifan]

I simply do not understand the love affair some have with Hartline to PS as a HC. At best he's an at-risk hire a 50-50 hire. This is not the time for a 50-50 guy at all. As I've said before it's not going to be Hartline or they would have hired him already, he said if offered he would take the job. He like Meyer wasn't offered and imo won't be offered.

I like many things about him. Are there some questions, sure there are. But to me you can find questions on any coach coming in if you look. I like what he would bring to the team. There is an inherent risk with whoever is chosen as the next HC. No one is guaranteed to be successful here, even those who were very successful at their previous HC job.

 

[Bwifan]

Based off of who is "reportedly" left, what's the other option?

The chances Elko is the next coach are low.
Brohm, Key, Lea are all looking at extensions.
Drink? Relatively low risk, but is he getting us over the hump?

Hartline is a huge risk, yes. But his upside is intriguing, especially vs someone like Drinkawitz.

Exactly, I wouldn't mind Brohm or Key. But Drink does nothing for me. He doesn't move the needle at all. Some are reporting Drinks odds of becoming the next HC are going up. Well of course they are most of the other candidates are falling off the board. It's natural attrition.

 

[PSU87]

Michigan did not throw a pass in the second half of that game because they couldn’t stop the PSU pass rush in the first half. Saying Penn State posed no threat is absurd.

Please tell me you're trolling us with this.

UM didn't throw a pass in the second half because they didn't have to. Not because they were afraid to.

 

[PaForest75]

Diaz or Chesney could end up the only candidates who even want it. I'm still surprised it wasn't Rhule. If it's Diaz or Chesney, I would choose Diaz. I know he lost to UConn, but I think he could go 10-2 at PSU. Not sure about a national championship, but at least he should be able to avoid becoming Nebraska.

 

[LB99]

Exactly, I wouldn't mind Brohm or Key. But Drink does nothing for me. He doesn't move the needle at all. Some are reporting Drinks odds of becoming the next HC are going up. Well of course they are most of the other candidates are falling off the board. It's natural attrition.

Fair. I feel the same about Brohm. I don’t understand the fascination and he doesn’t move the needle for me at all.

 

[LB99]

Diaz or Chesney could end up the only candidates who even want it. I'm still surprised it wasn't Rhule. If it's Diaz or Chesney, I would choose Diaz. I know he lost to UConn, but I think he could go 10-2 at PSU. Not sure about a national championship, but at least he should be able to avoid becoming Nebraska.

Didn’t we just fire Franklin for going 10-2 most years? That wasn’t good enough and we needed someone to get us over the hump? What was the point if we are satisfied with Diaz going 10-2?

 

[BobPSU92]

Didn’t we just fire Franklin for going 10-2 most years? That wasn’t good enough and we needed someone to get us over the hump? What was the point if we are satisfied with Diaz going 10-2?

We aren’t getting saban, urban, or day. We also aren’t getting dabo, Elmo, or DeBoer. Kraft’s PRESSER. is not aging well.

 

[LB99]

We aren’t getting saban, urban, or day. We also aren’t getting dabo, Elmo, or DeBoer. Kraft’s PRESSER. is not aging well.

I think if you fire Franklin (and pay him $50million to go) to hire Diaz and hope to win 10 games a year it makes you look really foolish and incompetent.

 

[Mufasa94]

Didn’t we just fire Franklin for going 10-2 most years?

No. He got fired for being unprofessional and checking out while losing to UCLA and NW after his typical top 10 matchup loss. He failed miserably in the supposed to be best year of his teams. If he had gone 10-2, I guarantee he wouldn’t have been fired.

Btw, 10-2 most years isn’t correct no matter how many times you Franklin lovers keep repeating it.

Quit lying at least.

 

[LB99]

No. He got fired for being unprofessional and checking out while losing to UCLA and NW after his typical top 10 matchup loss. He failed miserably in the supposed to be best year of his teams. If he had gone 10-2, I guarantee he wouldn’t have been fired.

Btw, 10-2 most years isn’t correct no matter how many times you Franklin lovers keep repeating it.

Quit lying at least.

Attaboy. Last three years were 11 wins, 10 wins, 13 wins and the bitching and moaning from you and your ilk was louder than ever.

 

[PSU4U]

I like many things about him. Are there some questions, sure there are. But to me you can find questions on any coach coming in if you look. I like what he would bring to the team. There is an inherent risk with whoever is chosen as the next HC. No one is guaranteed to be successful here, even those who were very successful at their previous HC job.

I tget it but I think we need someone who has been there and done that from being the CEO to Coaching to NIL and beyond. In this day and age at this level and particular at a PS type school it takes HC experience and hopefully past success. This can't be a I hope we get lucky and strike it rich hire. No hopeful's and no maybes. Either the guy has been a HC or he hasn't been that's my take.

 

[PSU4U]

Based off of who is "reportedly" left, what's the other option?

The chances Elko is the next coach are low.
Brohm, Key, Lea are all looking at extensions.
Drink? Relatively low risk, but is he getting us over the hump?

Hartline is a huge risk, yes. But his upside is intriguing, especially vs someone like Drinkawitz.

I would take Lea Golesh or Chesney any day of the week over Hartline.

 

[Bwifan]

I tget it but I think we need someone who has been there and done that from being the CEO to Coaching to NIL and beyond. In this day and age at this level and particular at a PS type school it takes HC experience and hopefully past success. This can't be a I hope we get lucky and strike it rich hire. No hopeful's and no maybes. Either the guy has been a HC or he hasn't been that's my take.

I totally get what you are saying and it's a valid concern. With what seems to be the candidates left no one moves the needle for me much. I rate them all about the same and at that point to me Hartline has a much higher ceiling so that is why I lean towards him.

 

[Catch1lion]

Kraft better have an ace up his sleeve. Options are drying up .

 

[BCS PSU]

Kraft better have an ace up his sleeve. Options are drying up .

Kraft better have an ace up his sleeve. Options are drying up .

Oklahoma State, VT, UCLA, Florida and LSU still haven't hird coaches yet. Did you expwect that this hire was going to be done within a month and before the regular season ends. This process still probably has at least another month to go. Franklin wasn't announced until the middle of January 2014.

 

[PSU4U]

I totally get what you are saying and it's a valid concern. With what seems to be the candidates left no one moves the needle for me much. I rate them all about the same and at that point to me Hartline has a much higher ceiling so that is why I lean towards him.

Over the weekend it seems PS got some good news Elko was offered an extension a week or so ago and so far it's a no go from Elko's side.

It has been confirmed that DeBoer is not happy at Alabama and there is real mutual interest between DeBoer and Kraft, apparently they are still talking.

Key is ahead of Drinkwitz at this time.

 

[SRURock24]

I would take Lea Golesh or Chesney any day of the week over Hartline.

1. Elko (doubt it is going to happen but would be the so called home run)
2. Brohm (proven offensive head coach with Big Ten experience and the ability to upset better competition)
3. Hartline (swing for the fences and hope you land the next big thing)

 

[PSU4U]

1. Elko (doubt it is going to happen but would be the so called home run)
2. Brohm (proven offensive head coach with Big Ten experience and the ability to upset better competition)
3. Hartline (swing for the fences and hope you land the next big thing)

Hartline has been off the board since the interview. The only current interest in Hartline is among fans.

It seems Brohm is also off the board and there did seem to be interest from PS but not major interest like there is for Elko.

 

[Bwifan]

Hartline has been off the board since the interview. The only current interest in Hartline is among fans.

It seems Brohm is also off the board and there did seem to be interest from PS but not major interest like there is for Elko.

And Brohm is about to sign a big extension.

 

[TheBigUglies]

Ok. You guys talked me into it...I'll do it. I got 2 years....varsity.......!!!

 

[DaytonRickster]

Exactly, I wouldn't mind Brohm or Key. But Drink does nothing for me. He doesn't move the needle at all. Some are reporting Drinks odds of becoming the next HC are going up. Well of course they are most of the other candidates are falling off the board. It's natural attrition.

I'd prefer Chesney over Drinkwitz. Chesney already has contacts with high school staffs in the DMV & PA. He has proven himself a very good coach after Cignetti poached his best players.
If it's not Brohm or Key, then I'd prefer Chesney.

 

[DaytonRickster]

Kraft better have an ace up his sleeve. Options are drying up .

Uh oh!

 

[DaytonRickster]

Over the weekend it seems PS got some good news Elko was offered an extension a week or so ago and so far it's a no go from Elko's side.

It has been confirmed that DeBoer is not happy at Alabama and there is real mutual interest between DeBoer and Kraft, apparently they are still talking.

Key is ahead of Drinkwitz at this time.

Deboer & Elko would be outstanding hires. Key definitely better than Drinkwitz.

 

[Bwifan]

I'd prefer Chesney over Drinkwitz. Chesney already has contacts with high school staffs in the DMV & PA. He has proven himself a very good coach after Cignetti poached his best players.
If it's not Brohm or Key, then I'd prefer Chesney.

Whoever it is Kraft needs to get a move along if he doesn't have a commitment from someone yet. Will be interesting to see when the new HC is announced how long they agreed to the move before it was announced to the public.

 

[LMTLION]

I would love to see Deboer & Elko but I fail to see how it’s even remotely possible with the timeline between the playoffs and current transfer portal structure. I still think it’s gonna be a Drink with Diaz being a fallback. I’ve seen nothing to convince me otherwise.

 

[Bwifan]

I would love to see Deboer & Elko but I fail to see how it’s even remotely possible with the timeline between the playoffs and current transfer portal structure. I still think it’s gonna be a Drink with Diaz being a fallback. I’ve seen nothing to convince me otherwise.

I will take Manny over Drink everyday.... Plus we will get to see that magnificent hair of Manny's regularly.

 

[EricStratton-RushChairman]

Hartline has been off the board since the interview. The only current interest in Hartline is among fans.

It seems Brohm is also off the board and there did seem to be interest from PS but not major interest like there is for Elko.

Hartline was interviewed by Kraft? Did i miss something?

 

[BCS PSU]

I will take Manny over Drink everyday.... Plus we will get to see that magnificent hair of Manny's regularly.

Mizzou probably would be a one or two loss team this season with a settled qb situation while playing a SEC schedule, and Drinkwitz probably would've taken his team to the playoffs last season if he played a Big 10 schedule, and did take them to the Cotton Bowl in 2023. Mizzou may be a sleeping giant, but he's done a very good job there, and it's no coincidence that Mizzou is expanding their stadium during his tenure. Also, he's been able to attract NFL caliber skill players.

My guess is that you would see a modern offense under him that would be able at least to frighten some of the big boys instead of the pop gun garbage that we've recently had the agony of seeing. Also, my guess is that he would be able to bring some of his current SEC caliber players and recruits with him, and maybe even one of his PA qbs.

 

[NittanyBuff]

I don't see Drink as an upgrade from Franklin, hopefully this isn't where we end up.

 

[BCS PSU]

I don't see Drink as an upgrade from Franklin, hopefully this isn't where we end up.

I don't think that you should consider the new coach's tangibles when assessing whether he is going to be an upgrade over Franklin, but rather the intangibles. I say this because it was clear in October that this program completely had flatlined under Franklin and needed an injection of new ideas and energy. Hopefully, those new ideas and energy will inject new live into this program.

If you are looking for a coach whom you believe is a tremendous upgrade from Franklin, you may be disappointed, because Franklin in most respects did an admirable job until this season. However, it was time for a separation for the good of both parties.

 

[Pointingdogsrule]

Hartline has been off the board since the interview. The only current interest in Hartline is among fans.

It seems Brohm is also off the board and there did seem to be interest from PS but not major interest like there is for Elko.

What insider info about Hartline’s interview? Inquiring minds want to know

 

[Connorpozlee]

Didn’t we just fire Franklin for going 10-2 most years? That wasn’t good enough and we needed someone to get us over the hump? What was the point if we are satisfied with Diaz going 10-2?

Seems to me that Franklin was fired for not showing up this year.

 

[PaForest75]

Didn’t we just fire Franklin for going 10-2 most years? That wasn’t good enough and we needed someone to get us over the hump? What was the point if we are satisfied with Diaz going 10-2?

Franklin wasn't going 10-2 this year. It appeared that he would not win anymore games until next year's gimmes. They could have kept him around for the season to let him eat the 3-9 record. All it would have taken is 10 cops encircling him in a glass encasement so he could still pace the sidelines and admire the little dances they do on defense on random TFLs or sacks.

He had a decent run, but those days were over I've never seen players quit on a guy as quickly and as much as they did on him this year.

 

[Connorpozlee]

1. Elko (doubt it is going to happen but would be the so called home run)
2. Brohm (proven offensive head coach with Big Ten experience and the ability to upset better competition)
3. Hartline (swing for the fences and hope you land the next big thing)

I’ll tell you what. If I was Elko I would be happy to get less millions to get out of that weird environment at A&M. And that said, he’ll get more millions to leave.

 

[TheWizardofCamelot]

For what it's worth, our insiders are saying Elko/Deboer are "listening."

For what it's worth, Bama/A&M insiders are saying "no chance in hell" either of them leave for PSU.

I tend to think the Elko/Deboer stuff is just like the rest of these guys, jockeying for extensions and raises.

 

[DaytonRickster]

I don't think that you should consider the new coach's tangibles when assessing whether he is going to be an upgrade over Franklin, but rather the intangibles. I say this because it was clear in October that this program completely had flatlined under Franklin and needed an injection of new ideas and energy. Hopefully, those new ideas and energy will inject new live into this program.

If you are looking for a coach whom you believe is a tremendous upgrade from Franklin, you may be disappointed, because Franklin in most respects did an admirable job until this season. However, it was time for a separation for the good of both parties.

I would be happy with Chesney if Elko, Deboer, Brohm, and Key are out of reach.
Not enamored with Hartline. Brady, or Drinkwitz.
Yet, whoever is hired I'll be pulling for him

 

[PSU4U]

Hartline was interviewed by Kraft? Did i miss something?

 

[84lion]

Over the weekend it seems PS got some good news Elko was offered an extension a week or so ago and so far it's a no go from Elko's side.

It has been confirmed that DeBoer is not happy at Alabama and there is real mutual interest between DeBoer and Kraft, apparently they are still talking.

Key is ahead of Drinkwitz at this time.

Given both are SEC schools, and pressure cooker jobs to boot, I could see where DeBoer especially would be interested in moving north. I could see Elko doing it if his family wants it - I think TAMU is as much a pressure cooker as Bama.

Key seemed to shut down rumors of his leaving GT during a presser last week. Of course, that could all the coach-speak. I'd be pleased with any of those three - in this order: DeBoer, Elko, Key.