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PSUcup

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Get Chesney and be done with it. 3 reasons:
1) He’s young and aggressive.
2) He’s WON everywhere he was at.
3) And most importantly, he’s from Mount Carmel/ Shamokin (the Coal Region for you common folk). These people tend to be tough as nails. The “let’s hug it out” stuff would become extinct. We would see hard nose football instead of gloried flag football.
He would be a great fit.
Agree
 

DaytonRickster

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That’s a big box not to have checked when you are going against the heavyweights in our conference.
It would be a bit of a gamble with Chesney but it is beginning to look like the other candidates are negotiating extensions.
I wonder if Kraft is speaking with any NFL coaches?
 

LB99

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Get Chesney and be done with it. 3 reasons:
1) He’s young and aggressive.
2) He’s WON everywhere he was at.
3) And most importantly, he’s from Mount Carmel/ Shamokin (the Coal Region for you common folk). These people tend to be tough as nails. The “let’s hug it out” stuff would become extinct. We would see hard nose football instead of gloried flag football.
He would be a great fit.
I don’t disagree with Chesney necessarily because I don’t really know much about him other than what I read from you guys here. However, you can be tough as nails and still be in way over your head. Being tough does not equal getting PSU over the hump that Franklin couldn’t.
 
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Catch1lion

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I don’t disagree with Chesney necessarily because I don’t really know much about him other than what I read from you guys here. However, you can be tough as nails and still be in way over your head. Being tough does not equal getting PSU over the hump that Franklin couldn’t.
You never really know till you put the man in the driver seat. You can get a seasoned accomplished veteran and still not succeed.I’m sure Ferrari is less than thrilled that Hamilton can’t perform Charles Leclerc.
 

LB99

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You never really know till you put the man in the driver seat. You can get a seasoned accomplished veteran and still not succeed.I’m sure Ferrari is less than thrilled that Hamilton can’t perform Charles Leclerc.
I get it. But just saying the guy is tough as nails, doesn’t make him a good coach. There’s no correlation whatsoever. I think some of our fanbase mistakenly seem to think the coach can mentally will his way to a win. As for the F1 reference, you lost me. It might as well be a soccer reference to me.
 
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LMTLION

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Chesney checks a lot of boxes for me, save P4 experience.
Same here, and I can see how it would be very tempting to hire him. But the reality is that there are very few examples of coaches like him without the power conference experience at the coordinator or assistant levels actually succeeding. I’m not sure that we’re in the position to roll the dice with a $700 million stadium renovation that needs to be paid for with additional revenue.
 
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PSUSignore

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If he beat Indiana, I would vote for Smith. There is no doubt that he has rallied the troops and has extracted more out of these guys than Franklin did. His mistake is that he did not force AK to throw the ball in the first half of that Indy game.
Smith allowed the same personnel and lack of downfield passing mistakes that Franklin had to continue for 3 games. His time management against IU was awful, we wasted 2 crucial timeouts, one on defense substitutions and one on offense when the clock was already stopped for a first down. The clock management cost us a huge opportunity on the last possession. I like Smith and hope he sticks around, but he's not ready for the head job.
 
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Midnighter

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Hard pass. Not sure what he brings versus Franklin. He has not succeeded with the resources at USC.

Yeah - a coach with his pedigree should have that program humming by year four but could be structural issues at USC (NIL specifically) preventing progress. Have to recall he was handed the keys to the kingdom at Oklahoma after never being a HC anywhere once Stoops retired. I think Big 12 coaches just aren’t that good outside of the Big 12 to be honest.
 

PSUSignore

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I don’t disagree with Chesney necessarily because I don’t really know much about him other than what I read from you guys here. However, you can be tough as nails and still be in way over your head. Being tough does not equal getting PSU over the hump that Franklin couldn’t.
Agree. I think a lot of posters that disliked Franklin's style are overcorrecting with their desire to get a "tough guy" coach. In the open portal era being too much of a hard *** isn't going to work either. It's a fine line that coaches have to manage, keeping players happy enough to stick around while also not being afraid to bench them for poor performance.
 

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5x super bowl champion
1x college national champion
NFL assistant of the year
NFL coach of the year
vs
JMU head coach.
Some of you are clueless
He hasn't been a college coach for very long over the last 20 years. He will get an NFL job and likely has no desire to coach college ball. And his NFL coaching record despite those stats, isn't all rainbows and unicorns. He got all of those championship on the Pats staff as a position coach thanks to Belichick and Brady.

As Jets QB coach he coached Chad Pennington, Kellen Clemens, and Brett Favre. Woof.
As Browns OC his teams had the 32nd and 29th ranked offense.
As Dolphins OC his team was 20th in offense,.
As Chiefs OC the Chiefs went 2-14, worst in the NFL.
As Bama OC for one season coached Hurts and Tua and won a natty, maybe his best resume bullet point for the PSU job.
Immediately went back to the NFL and at the Bills did a good job coaching Josh Allen for 3 years and had high ranking offenses.
As Giants head coach made the playoffs in year one at 9-7-1, decreased to 6-11, 3-14, and 2-8 in subsequent years, a downward spiral.
 
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centaur94

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He hasn't been a college coach in 20 years and even then his only college experience is as a GA... no meaningful college experience and he'd be expected to recruit, manage NIL and the portal. He will get an NFL job and likely has no desire to coach college ball.
Alabama OC 2017
 

Mufasa94

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I get it. But just saying the guy is tough as nails, doesn’t make him a good coach. There’s no correlation whatsoever...
That description was 3rd on the list posted, so that wasn't what the new guy was "just saying".

No P4 experience is a legitimate concern, but there is a legitimate concern with every potential hire.
 
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donaldfair71

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I don’t disagree with Chesney necessarily because I don’t really know much about him other than what I read from you guys here. However, you can be tough as nails and still be in way over your head. Being tough does not equal getting PSU over the hump that Franklin couldn’t.
While I’d be happy with Chesney, this is one reason I prefer Golesh to him. He’s been in major conference settings as an assistant for a decade before becoming HC.
 
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BCS PSU

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While I’d be happy with Chesney, this is one reason I prefer Golesh to him. He’s been in major conference settings as an assistant for a decade before becoming HC.
I looked at Golesh's record and it's very mediocre despite playing in a conference in which he should have the talent advantage against most of the other teams.
 

donaldfair71

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I looked at Golesh's record and it's very mediocre despite playing in a conference in which he should have the talent advantage against most of the other teams.
I hear you but let’s look at what it was before him:

the prior 3 years: 4-29
Throw in 2019: 8-37

The 2 seasons before him were 2 and 1 win seasons. It was the worst program in the league.
Fast forward:

7-6
7-6
Then this season’s 7-2 start

But it’s not just the record, he has 2 things I like from my head coach:

- Comes from an offensive background, specifically the Heupel Veer and Shoot system.
- Has an edge and doesn’t back down from a fight. Just last week he kind of went overboard in defending his team and program after the UTSA coach made some innuendo that South Florida gets to buy talent while his program doesn’t. I like that a lot.
 

Auxgym

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What changes by acknowledging it?

Penn State even got to play them minus Harbaugh in 2023 and at home. I don’t assume they were creating that game anymore. Penn State presented such little threat that I don’t believe Michigan threw a pass in the second half.
Michigan did not throw a pass in the second half of that game because they couldn’t stop the PSU pass rush in the first half. Saying Penn State posed no threat is absurd.