Kraft had better get Rhule before uf or lsu do. Clock’s ticking.
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Let me just say I'm not the least bit happy with the way this supposed search has been going and I doubt I'm alone in that.
Oh, I hope and pray either of those programs are dumb enough to take Rhule.
Rhule has been campaigning for the job big time from the very second it came open he has called his pal and everyone at PS who has any influence on the hire.
As we know Rhule is best friends with Kraft even vacationing together and Kraft has a hiring history of surrounding himself with people he has been close to and worked with in the past.
I can't say Kraft has been running smokescreens on the hire knowing full well he's going to hire his best friend, but it has looked that way.
I can't say the search has been a sham but early on they put out propaganda about who they were interested in which was merely chumming the waters with BS IMO. Now that happens to some degree with every search, but I think in this case that has been especially true.
I pray that it ends up being not Rhule and that somehow that all gets derailed. I would take Elmer Fudd before I'd hire Rhule.
Agreed. I really have not put eyes on his team, but his CV leads one to believe that he will have excellent ties to what is Penn States traditional recruiting footprint. I accept that the jump may be big, but he is young and has done a lot with a little.
The 2026 recruiting class at JMU is intriguing in that he has drawn talent from Florida and Georgia. His class is ranked 76th which at JMU is impressive, to me. His recruits are largely 3* which may very well be the ceiling there, but looks consistent.
I am intrigued.
My sense is that Kraft is not interested in committing career suicide. The narrative of Rhule being his "friend," not particularly successful in big games, poor recruiter, will roil fans and the leash will be much shorter than it would be with a new coach that comes in with a blank slate.
Jon Sumrall is another young coach that deserves a very close look. He is from Texas and played in the SEC, so not sure whether he is just getting ready for an SEC jump when the time is right, but he is an up and coming talent.
Matt Ruhle= Kenny Pickett
If Kenny Pickett went to TCU, no Steeler fan would have been excited the Steelers drafted him. Same thing applies to Ruhle....if Matt Ruhle went to Eastern Michigan, not one person would be excited for him to come to PSU.
If Kenny Pickett went to TCU, no Steeler fan would have been excited the Steelers drafted him. Same thing applies to Ruhle....if Matt Ruhle went to Eastern Michigan, not one person would be excited for him to come to PSU.
For the we can't hire a coordinator crowd: As much as we like to think this whole “hiring a football coach” is an exact science, it isn’t. Here’s what the previous job of every head coach of the current top 15 ranked teams was before taking over: OC, HC, HC, HC, DC, DC, HC, OL, DC, DC, HC, DC, OLB, HC, and OC.
Things that make you go hmmm.
Things that make you go hmmm.
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If it was Urban I imagine it would be done already. He would want to what he can to get a recruiting class together.
He won't be trying to catch the same fish that want to leave PSU. Urban to PSU will open a whole new world. In fact I hope it happens so these kids that jumped ship right away try to come back only to find a no vacancy sign on the door. In fact players like jashir Rodgers will really get it and OU is a loss maybe away from finding a new copach as well.
Who cares? Right? We tried integrity and it didn’t work according to the board. Hire the guy who wants to win so bad he froths at the mouth. Isn’t that what the board wants? Wasn’t Franklin too soft? I don’t get it. Either you pay for those 2-3 extra wins or you sit in a corner and complain. Maybe the board likes the latter?
He would be our *******. That’s the name of the game. You think people like their coaches? They want wins, not likable 4-21 coaches. Boo the likable ones. Cheer the azzholes….until they lose. Then boo.
I think there is a fair bit of unrealistic thinking operating on all levels here. So, by default there will be a lot of "sitting in the corner complaining" after this hire because their expectation is that PSU could hire any coach they want and simply failed. The problem is that it is not just a matter of money. Top coaches are making a shi+t load of money already, so compensation is not as incentivizing as you may imagine. You take Kiffin, for instance. He already is a very, very wealthy man. He will make an annual salary of 9m starting in December with 2.9m in incentives (if benchmarks are met). He likes the south and boating. Why would he give it up? More money? Maybe or maybe he says I have enough here to grow generational wealth in an environment that he enjoys, has low expectations, and who will build a statue for him when he is gone. He may very well move to LSU or Florida but even that is doubtful unless he believes that he cannot get to the National Championship at Ole Miss and he is super competitive.
Penn State's job will be very, very difficult to fill with an upgrade to Franklin in this current cycle without going outside the box. But whatever choice this made it will raise the hackles of many who believe they are entitled to Saban or Meyer coming out of retirement to lead their beloved team
Penn State's job will be very, very difficult to fill with an upgrade to Franklin in this current cycle without going outside the box. But whatever choice this made it will raise the hackles of many who believe they are entitled to Saban or Meyer coming out of retirement to lead their beloved team
I agree with you. A number of PSU fans will be very disappointed when it’s not Urban or Saban. Urban would never be approved by the BOT and Saban just mercilessly trashed us on gameday. Some will be disappointed it is not Elko or Kiffin, ignoring the fact they both will be in the cfb playoff. I know Gruden is tossed around by the fanbase, which is ignorant of the scandal he was involved in the NFL and like Urban would never have the votes on the BOT. You are left with coordinators like Hartline or Brady, established coaches with potential to succeed with our resources like Campbell or Diaz, or rising stars at lower level programs like Sumrall, Golesh or Chesney. I personally think it will be Campbell, Diaz or Chesney (I am coming around on him) at this point. Maybe Hartline is a possibility but I doubt he leaves his alma mater and I am wary of copying OSU. It did not work for Knowles.
how can you be happy or unhappy about the way the search is going? As far as I know Kraft is doing the search, and he is not issuing public statements nor should he. right now it is all rumor .
Yes. Personally, I would like try out Sumrall, Golesh or Chesney (my first choice given his NE ties). Brohm is not leaving his alma mater, neither will Key, or Lea.
As for the "bigger fish." You are not pulling Kiffin or Drink from the SEC. Thats simply a pipedream.
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A Penn State football fan imagination is a dangerous thing. Everything will always look half empty
Right now, PS is the 3rd most attractive coaching position and will move down to 4th if the TX job becomes vacant. That is if no other positions become available.
PS is no gem of a location unless you are a big fan of winter activities and isolated environments.
PS is no gem of a location unless you are a big fan of winter activities and isolated environments.
It is one of the premiere jobs in the B1G. For certain coaches, that matters. While there will be some overlap with all schools for some coaches, I believe some are exclusively SEC or B1G-minded. Where this matters most IMO is in path to playoffs, and I think PSU is better positioned than LSU and Florida. We'll see though.
Hartline is getting a lot of buzz...
I could get on board with the recruiting bumps we'd obviously see. I wonder who he'd like for OC/DC? Maybe a case he'd keep Knowles?
I could get on board with the recruiting bumps we'd obviously see. I wonder who he'd like for OC/DC? Maybe a case he'd keep Knowles?
I can't believe there's even one poster wanting him. Kelly is an a$$hole, a terrible fit, and he killed a kid. I don't want that clown anywhere near PSU except on an opposing sideline, ever. I would honestly rather hire Jay Paterno than Brian Kelly, or literally almost anyone else.
You've lost your marbles. Kelly is rumored to have been a joke at LSU, checked out to the point he wasn't around the program much, didn't even know the names of many of his staffers or low level players, wasn't even reachable by phone at times by the staff. He would be a train wreck and doesn't even deserve a phone call about the PSU job.
In terms of strength of schedule, I agree that PS is better positioned for the next couple of years. The schedule is extremely weak when compared to TX, LSU and FL.
That could be a rare attractive quality for the job.
However, all 3 have titles in THIS CENTURY, showing that it can happen at those programs in the modern CFB environment. PS not so much, last title happened 40-odd years ago.
And fans have shown that Paterno has a heavy unhealthy influence that does not exist elsewhere.
Nonsense. Just bring up Woody here in Columbus, for one....
Yeah, but none in the current playoff era - only a B1G team has won that.
And we were a dumb throw away from having two B1G teams in the final. LSU may not be as attractive as it once was; think their NIL game is lagging.Mike Elko graduated from UPenn, not A&M.
Yes he was, transferred from ND and was racking up good stats. Big drop off in qb.
It was reported that PSU spends 30% more than Florida on football. That’s attractive.
Ummm, the problem is your fire breathing Brian Kelly can't win the big game either.