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Catch1lion

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I disagree with this. While there was certainly frustration with the continuing expected losses to tOSU and Michigan (with Oregon now added), Franklin got 86ed for for those inexcusable losses (and team efforts) vs UCLA and NW.

If they had only lost to tOSU and Oregon, he would not have been 86ed. Maybe encouraged to look elsewhere, but that is a whole lot different.
I agree with you. It also states the expectation was to win the favored games. Sorry if that was unclear in the context of being fired.
 
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Kiffin to Bama if KDB to us. Bank on it

Would be really interesting. LSU and Florida would tailspin; any chance Franklin tries to bail from VT? He looked bewildered when touring the place...like this even:

 

Midnighter

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FACILITIES. o_O

ALINGMENT!! It's one thing to get a wealthy (by comparison) program into the modern age of college football and quite another to do it at a place with significantly less in a conference that is on it's heels. I think he'll do PSU 2.0 there which is to say will beat those he should and lose to those he should with the occasional loss to a team he should beat. 8-9 wins, bowl, toot sweet.
 

BobPSU92

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There was talk about a flight from VA (jmu area) to University Park last night. Then there was talk about the flight being canceled. This would presumably be about Chesney. Was the flight canceled? Did Chesney tell us to go f*ck ourselves?
 

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Spoken like a joebot. Joe being great is irrelevant. He is dead. You won't be happy til Joe's corpse is introduced at the press conference.


Franklin is nowhere near the worst. He finished in the top 10 multiple times vs most coaches who never crack the top 20 like golden, rhule, schiano and O'Brien.

Rhule has never beaten a team that finished in the top 20 ever!
Even in the disrespectful scenario you outlined, JVP would do better than BGJ in games that count.
 

TheWizardofCamelot

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What is the true speculation around Deboer? Here's what I'm gathering:
  • He and family are unhappy / feel out of place in Bama. Culture shock. The expectations at Bama are unrealistic.
  • His agent has been in contact since the beginning
  • He allegedly interviewed
  • He's still probably going to make the CFP and play into at least December
  • Most believe he needs to lose to Auburn for this have a shot
  • He can't be vying for an extension (a la Elko), because his seat gets warm after a single loss
  • A BOT member may have leaked things could be further along than anyone thought
Other random notes that have been thrown out there by anonymous message board users - "announcement today," "TOS is saying done deal," "there is no shot."

Did I miss anything?
 

TheWizardofCamelot

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Would be really interesting. LSU and Florida would tailspin; any chance Franklin tries to bail from VT? He looked bewildered when touring the place...like this even:

I don't know if this was mentioned elsewhere - but I totally agree. Not to derail the thread.

But didn't he look bummed out? We've seen hyped up Franklin and that was not hyped up Franklin. It's almost like he didn't have enough time to get over the fact that his time at PSU ended the way it did. And of all the video out there, Tech's facilities are way way way behind. Franklin visibly looked sad as if he realized he had fallen off so far.
 

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There was talk about a flight from VA (jmu area) to University Park last night. Then there was talk about the flight being canceled. This would presumably be about Chesney. Was the flight canceled? Did Chesney tell us to go f*ck ourselves?
As of this morning it seems there was no such flight scheduled or, so I've been told.
 
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What is the true speculation around Deboer? Here's what I'm gathering:
  • He and family are unhappy / feel out of place in Bama. Culture shock. The expectations at Bama are unrealistic.
  • His agent has been in contact since the beginning
  • He allegedly interviewed
  • He's still probably going to make the CFP and play into at least December
  • Most believe he needs to lose to Auburn for this have a shot
  • He can't be vying for an extension (a la Elko), because his seat gets warm after a single loss
  • A BOT member may have leaked things could be further along than anyone thought
Other random notes that have been thrown out there by anonymous message board users - "announcement today," "TOS is saying done deal," "there is no shot."

Did I miss anything?
Of course a BOT member leaked it. They are all fn idiots
 

Bob78

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I don't know if this was mentioned elsewhere - but I totally agree. Not to derail the thread.

But didn't he look bummed out? We've seen hyped up Franklin and that was not hyped up Franklin. It's almost like he didn't have enough time to get over the fact that his time at PSU ended the way it did. And of all the video out there, Tech's facilities are way way way behind. Franklin visibly looked sad as if he realized he had fallen off so far.
I would guess that he had a good handle on what's what down there from Pry. I seriously doubt that he and Sexton would paint him into such a corner, with other opportunities still looming. Plus, coaches talk, they all have sources to give them honest assessments of such things.
It's more likely he got promises and assurances for almost everything he asked for, from facilities to hiring to NIL to school acceptances for athletes on the edge.
Just my guess.
 
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There was talk about a flight from VA (jmu area) to University Park last night. Then there was talk about the flight being canceled. This would presumably be about Chesney. Was the flight canceled? Did Chesney tell us to go f*ck ourselves?
That tweet about that flight was fake. NetJets EJA534 flight does exist, problem is it went 5:00 Teterboro to KUNV then 9:18 KUNV to Cincinnati. There was just enough truth in the tweet to make it semi-believable.
 
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I don't know if this was mentioned elsewhere - but I totally agree. Not to derail the thread.

But didn't he look bummed out? We've seen hyped up Franklin and that was not hyped up Franklin. It's almost like he didn't have enough time to get over the fact that his time at PSU ended the way it did. And of all the video out there, Tech's facilities are way way way behind. Franklin visibly looked sad as if he realized he had fallen off so far.
Agreed, and he looks like he aged 10 years in the past month.
 

Rudy4526

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Agreed, and he looks like he aged 10 years in the past month.
IMO I think Franklin regrets what happened and wishes he could still be at PSU. I wonder if overtime he will return as other coaches who left and came back to a school. Doubtful I know but wonder if a new AD in a few years We shall see. I do think if he was given support by the AD and they got ahead or address the elephant in the room head on this could of possibly been avoided but here we are.
 

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I have been to Karns City and East Brady numerous times. But I never realized they were close together.

I watch a bunch of high school games on YouTube. I love watching KC games. Nothing better than old school power running.
They are very close to each other. The old East Brady high School is located on top of the hill in Brady, and is now the borough building. KC is in Armstrong county, while half of Brady is is Clarion county while the other is in Armstrong: Just depends on which side of the river you live in. Up the hill in the other direction is Rimersberg, where Union/AC Valley is, they also have a great football program. In New Bethlehem is Red Bank Valley and of course Clarion high school has a great program. A lot of good football for a smaller county. Now the bad news: Brady is slowly dying, no grocery store, one restaurant, no amenities, etc
 

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False... PSU beat #6 at the time and #4 at the end of year OSU in 2005 and beat #10 OSU at the time of game and #9 at the end of season OSU in 2008. Are you just making things up, assuming no one will check your facts? Pathetic!
So they weren't top 5 when they played.

You do the opposite for Franklin. When he beats a ranked team and they drop you don't count it.
 
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What is the true speculation around Deboer? Here's what I'm gathering:
  • He and family are unhappy / feel out of place in Bama. Culture shock. The expectations at Bama are unrealistic.
  • His agent has been in contact since the beginning
  • He allegedly interviewed
  • He's still probably going to make the CFP and play into at least December
  • Most believe he needs to lose to Auburn for this have a shot
  • He can't be vying for an extension (a la Elko), because his seat gets warm after a single loss
  • A BOT member may have leaked things could be further along than anyone thought
Other random notes that have been thrown out there by anonymous message board users - "announcement today," "TOS is saying done deal," "there is no shot."

Did I miss anything?
This seems to have legs so hopefully things can move forward. Would be excellent hire
 
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And if not for a fluke blocked field goal, that was going to be a loss as well.

You trolls are so laughable (and clearly not PSU fans) - now making a great play on STs is a "fluke" and not a great defensive play (like it is viewed 100% of the time everywhere else in the Country at all levels of play). If it was such a "fluke" win; how precisely is it that PSU scored the last 17 points of the game (outscoring duhO$U 17-0 in the final 23:31 of the game)???? How is it that there was almost 5 minutes left in the game after the play PSU took a 24-21 lead on, but duhO$U didn't come remotely close to scoring after the play - putting up a grand total of 17 yards of total offensive production after the play. You're such a twit (and a troll) and proved how much you know about football with this absurd post. Somehow, PSU didn't deserve to win this game according to you despite outplaying and outscoring duhO$U 17-0 in the final third of the game (23 minutes 31 seconds) - telling as to precisely who, and what you are, which most certainly isn't a "PSU fan".
 

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This seems to have legs so hopefully things can move forward. Would be excellent hire
It also has legs across a bunch of message boards and Bama fans who once poo pooed it are now all of a sudden concerned. But even that is not proof. We have to be careful not to be chasing shadows or falling prey to false post/reports. With some considered to be high value candidates it seems to be on again off again.
 
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Midnighter

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Jon Sauber and Audrey Snyder on their podcast - their rankings:

1a - Marcus Freeman
1b - Kalen DeBoer
2 - Brent Key
3 - Bob Chesney

I'm told Chesney is another CEO type, so not sure I want that. I want someone who is a strategist/play caller. Freeman also a CEO type and really, he's not leaving ND. So, DeBoer and Key would be my top two but I'd still be in for Chesney if he's the guy.
 

PSU4U

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I would guess that he had a good handle on what's what down there from Pry. I seriously doubt that he and Sexton would paint him into such a corner, with other opportunities still looming. Plus, coaches talk, they all have sources to give them honest assessments of such things.
It's more likely he got promises and assurances for almost everything he asked for, from facilities to hiring to NIL to school acceptances for athletes on the edge.
Just my guess.
VT was his only attainable option, or he wouldn't be there. Reality just ***** Slapped him.
 

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  • He's still probably going to make the CFP and play into at least December
  • Most believe he needs to lose to Auburn for this have a shot
Agree that Bama has a shot at the CFP. In fact, ESPN's bracket shows both TAMU and Bama getting 1st round byes.

I don't think he needs to lose to Auburn to leave Bama - but if he does go far into the CFP (let's say final four), I think the attitude of the Bama faithful may change. But would that be enough to convince DeBoer to stay in the pressure cooker?
 

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Jon Sauber and Audrey Snyder on their podcast - their rankings:

1a - Marcus Freeman
1b - Kalen DeBoer
2 - Brent Key
3 - Bob Chesney

I'm told Chesney is another CEO type, so not sure I want that. I want someone who is a strategist/play caller. Freeman also a CEO type and really, he's not leaving ND. So, DeBoer and Key would be my top two but I'd still be in for Chesney if he's the guy.
I saw that episode too. Sauber said he doesn't actually think Freeman would leave ND for PSU.

I'd be good with a CEO type if he hires really good coordinators and recruits well. Hadn't heard that about Chesney (CEO type) till now...
 

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Yeah, heard Auburn wasn't interested and no idea if/when FSU opens up. Really, outside of maybe Maryland and/or UNC, think VT is the ceiling for Franklin until he proves he can win some big games.
Yes this is absolutely true. Any program that could conceivably win a NC like Auburn, Florida, LSU are not hiring him. FSU probably said they were not that interested and/or they are not making a change. There are consequences for not being able to win big games and then implode in a season that was supposed to be a natty run. BGJ could do no better than Va Tech.
 
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Rudy4526

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Would be really interesting. LSU and Florida would tailspin; any chance Franklin tries to bail from VT? He looked bewildered when touring the place...like this even:

if a team he wants to go to really wants him I could maybe see it but not sure. He is not Kiffin or is he?