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This doesn’t make any sense as it’s Sexton’s fiduciary duty to get his clients the best deal possible - not turn down offers out of some weird form of spite.

By the way, Zach Seyko is the worst. My god is he insufferable
Exactly. Saw someone say he wouldn’t let Chesney take the Penn st job.
So he’s going to allow him to make $2-3 million less a year at ucla.

just a ridiculous notion
 

Ludd

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lol. Of course it is ok for the new guy to get a few years. James got 12! Some of you would have let paterno coach through a psychic if you could.
But the schedule is so easy, how can anything but 10 wins at a minimum be acceptable? Nothing like inconsistency in an argument.
 

LB99

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This doesn’t make any sense as it’s Sexton’s fiduciary duty to get his clients the best deal possible - not turn down offers out of some weird form of spite.

By the way, Zach Seyko is the worst. My god is he insufferable
How many of the supposed PSU targets got raises and extensions? Were they all Sexton clients?
 
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Nits1989

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Exactly. Saw someone say he wouldn’t let Chesney take the Penn st job.
So he’s going to allow him to make $2-3 million less a year at ucla.

just a ridiculous notion
It’s really funny. Sexton can tell Chesney what job to accept. So funny.
 
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fastlax16

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Good read from the Kelly hiring at LSU with some parallels.

The fit is odd at best

Kelly, a Massachusetts native, has never coached in the Southeast. Only seven of his 27 recruits in the class of 2021 came from the South. Only two players on Notre Dame's roster are from the state of Louisiana.

The SEC is a different animal. Kelly goes from being a ball coach at Notre Dame to needing to be a dynamic recruiter at LSU and quickly make new connections across the south at 60. Yes, LSU recruits itself to some extent. Not to a championship level, though.


Was it deplorable to point out he was a odd cultural fit at the time? Is it obvious he wasn't a great cultural fit now?
 
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This doesn’t make any sense as it’s Sexton’s fiduciary duty to get his clients the best deal possible - not turn down offers out of some weird form of spite.

By the way, Zach Seyko is the worst. My god is he insufferable
I agree...that boy needs to get out of his parent's basement and see the world.
 
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Daboll. The job should have been his as soon as he got canned with the Giants. That is, if he wanted it. Even if Kraft had his man in place, I think Daboll becoming available would have superceded. I think by now we would have known or he would have already been hired if there was mutual interest. I just don't understand why there wouldn't be. Even if he has NFL aspirations, a few years to steady the ship and keep us relevant. He checks so many boxes and is readily available.
 

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Reading more on Sitake. I don't think he was even on Kraft's radar seven weeks ago but I am warming to the idea of him being the next coach. He seems to be genuine and ethical + a winner. I do think it's an uphill climb to pull someone from the school they played and coached at especially a place that's as unique as BYU Cougars. I guess we'll find out soon enough
 

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This doesn’t make any sense as it’s Sexton’s fiduciary duty to get his clients the best deal possible - not turn down offers out of some weird form of spite.

By the way, Zach Seyko is the worst. My god is he insufferable
I agree, it makes no business sense to be spiteful. Maybe Pat is the one being spiteful? I do think Jimmy is playing everyone like a fiddle to his maximum benefit. His ego has to be through the roof with all the power he seems to yield right now
 

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Reading more on Sitake. I don't think he was even on Kraft's radar seven weeks ago but I am warming to the idea of him being the next coach. He seems to be genuine and ethical + a winner. I do think it's an uphill climb to pull someone from the school they played and coached at especially a place that's as unique as BYU Cougars. I guess we'll find out soon enough
they said they’ve been talking for a month now
 

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Love this thread.

Franklin boot lickers for 12 years: “10 wins is good enough, leave Franklin alone!”

Franklin boot lickers now: “new coach better win everything now that we fired the 10 win a year guy, I have high expectations!”
Kraft is the one who said Franklin was fired for not meeting the standard of winning Big and National Championships and that the fans deserve a National Championship. HE’S the one setting the expectations. Get some help for your obvious Franklin Derangement Syndrome.
 

Bvillebaron

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lol. Of course it is ok for the new guy to get a few years. James got 12! Some of you would have let paterno coach through a psychic if
Franklin won a Big Ten Championship in his third season. Since he got fired for not winning more or a Natty there should be a much shorter leash.
 

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Good read from the Kelly hiring at LSU with some parallels.

The fit is odd at best

Kelly, a Massachusetts native, has never coached in the Southeast. Only seven of his 27 recruits in the class of 2021 came from the South. Only two players on Notre Dame's roster are from the state of Louisiana.

The SEC is a different animal. Kelly goes from being a ball coach at Notre Dame to needing to be a dynamic recruiter at LSU and quickly make new connections across the south at 60. Yes, LSU recruits itself to some extent. Not to a championship level, though.


Was it deplorable to point out he was a odd cultural fit at the time? Is it obvious he wasn't a great cultural fit now?
It was...didn't realize we joined the SEC
 

Bvillebaron

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Too funny, we're all told how naive we are about the realities of the professionalization of CFB, but now it isn't amateur Krafty The Clown's fault that he is being made to look li ke the loudmouth, unprofessional amateur he is, but it's all James Franklin's fault and his meanie Agent. Rolling my eyes and LMFAO.
👍👍👍
 

fastlax16

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Reading more on Sitake. I don't think he was even on Kraft's radar seven weeks ago but I am warming to the idea of him being the next coach. He seems to be genuine and ethical + a winner. I do think it's an uphill climb to pull someone from the school they played and coached at especially a place that's as unique as BYU Cougars. I guess we'll find out soon enough

Winning against what competition though.
He's 2-3 against the Top 10 and 8-11 against Top 11-25.
Only 4 of of the 10 ranked wins came against teams that finished the season ranked. Neither top 10 win finished in the top 25.
 

KingLando

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Winning against what competition though.
He's 2-3 against the Top 10 and 8-11 against Top 11-25.
Only 4 of of the 10 ranked wins came against teams that finished the season ranked. Neither top 10 win finished in the top 25.
Those records are better than James, right?
 
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KingLando

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can bad cultural fits only happen in the south?
The article was about the dynamic nature of the SEC and recruiting in the south. It's not the same in the north. Sitake, if hired, will be fine in Ohio, MD, PA and Jersey...plus he'll bring kids east.
 

Bvillebaron

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Reading more on Sitake. I don't think he was even on Kraft's radar seven weeks ago but I am warming to the idea of him being the next coach. He seems to be genuine and ethical + a winner. I do think it's an uphill climb to pull someone from the school they played and coached at especially a place that's as unique as BYU Cougars. I guess we'll find out soon enough
Serious question. Were there any other schools interested in hiring Stake away from
BYU? How is a coach who spent most of his career coaching in Utah a fit for Penn State. Can he recruit here?
 

fastlax16

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The article was about the dynamic nature of the SEC and recruiting in the south. It's not the same in the north. Sitake, if hired, will be fine in Ohio, MD, PA and Jersey...plus he'll bring kids east.

It was about a coach taking a job in a region he had no prior experience in. Do we need an example of a Tongan coach who spent his whole life in Utah taking a p4 job in Pennsylvania for there to be parallels?
 

KingLando

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It was about a coach taking a job in a region he had no prior experience in. Do we need an example of a Tongan coach who spent his whole life in Utah taking a p4 job in Pennsylvania for there to be parallels?
It's not...its literally an article about the SEC being the holy grail and impossible with you turned into a way to attack Sitake.
It's not remotely the same
 

PSUForever

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can bad cultural fits only happen in the south?
What specifically about the Penn State culture will be so poor fitting for Sitake? I am sure the guy has done his homework and understands the tradition we have. Kraft likes him so he gets along with Kraft. I am sure the big money boosters and BOT are all on board. I am sure he has met a few of them. State College is a small town like Provo. And I would say going north to south or vice versa is more difficult than west to east or vice versa.
 

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Is that what I said? Or did I ask if it was better than James?

You asked a leading question. Your "question" assumes they're better. Franklin has a winning record against teams ranked 11-25. Sitake does not. 11-7 vs 8-11.

If you wanna argue Sitake is better against top 10 teams with the sample sizes be my guest.

It's not...its literally an article about the SEC being the holy grail and impossible with you turned into a way to attack Sitake.
It's not remotely the same

It's about a guy distinctly from one area of the country, ending up in a very different area of the country where he has no professional ties being a strange fit. Which he was and he failed.

But F it. Utah and the Northeastern United States are super duper similar and its going to be a smashing f*ing success because there are so many similarities. Which is why Utah is commonly referred to as the Northeast of the Mountain West.
 
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KingLando

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You asked a leading question. Your "question" assumes they're better. Franklin has a winning record against teams ranked 11-25. Sitake does not. 11-7 vs 8-11.

If you wanna argue Sitake is better against top 10 teams with the sample sizes be my guest.



It's about a guy distinctly from one area of the country, ending up in a very different area of the country where he has no professional ties being a strange fit. Which he was and he failed.

But F it. Utah and the Northeastern United States are super duper similar and its going to be a smashing f*ing success because there are so many similarities. Which is why Utah is commonly referred to as the Northeast of the Mountain West.
So Sitake has a better record...

Strange fit is far different than what you and others have claimed. That's not what the article was about...it was about the challenges of the SEC.

Who cares if they're similar? It's irrelevant just like it was for Cael.
 

fastlax16

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So Sitake has a better record...

Strange fit is far different than what you and others have claimed. That's not what the article was about...it was about the challenges of the SEC.

Who cares if they're similar? It's irrelevant just like it was for Cael.

Is that what I said Lando? I gave two records. Your leading question was:

Those records are better than James, right?

So which records are better, Lando? Which two records did I give?

Cael had 2 national championships before he got here, is the greatest college wrestler of all time and an olympic gold medalist in the sport he coaches. Cael's success is irrelevant to this situation.
 

PSUForever

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What happens with Sitake and the possibility of him being the next coach if BYU beats Texas Tech on Sat and is in the playoff? Does he pull a Kiffin at that point?