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Bvillebaron

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I'm skeptical of some of these claims but if there is truth to it PSU needs to do something to make it known. They can't allow the most powerful agent in college sports to black ball PSU without a fight as that is something that has long term implications.
Not happening. Please just stop.
 

Bvillebaron

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Sounds like the Deboer stuff was an intentional smokescreen to distract from Sitake as they wanted it quiet to avoid what happened on Monday with boosters stepping up. They needed someone that was still likely to play in conference championships and the playoffs for it to be an effective distraction. Considering there had been reports about Deboer maybe not fitting in there, this was a good smokescreen candidate. Of course they mentioned Freeman too, but that was always less believable or likely than Deboer. There were probably others with light discussions and tire-kicking going on. I still think it's odd but it appears as if anyone without head coaching experience already wasn't much of a consideration, with Chesney maybe being the only one without P4 head coach experience in the mix.

It sounds like the candidates that got into deeper discussions were Elko, Chesney and Sitake. Elko died on the vine with his extension, Sitake emerged next with Chesney being strung along as plan B. Then Sitake changed his mind and Chesney lost patience with PSU, opting for UCLA.
Bang up job by Kraft huh?
 

MtNittany

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JoeBots will never be satisfied with anyone else. At this point, JoeBots are more fueled by hatred of anything that isn't related to worship of Joe than they even are by their love of Joe.

Trying to please them is like peeing into an endless abyss ... you're never filling it up.

They're just toxic.

So, the correct solution is to not try. Either JoeBots change their ways and jump on board, or, you have to cut bait with them and move on.
I don't really know what a JoeBot is. I just think that ignoring your incredible past as a program isn't exactly a recipe for future success.
 

MacNit

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JoeBots will never be satisfied with anyone else. At this point, JoeBots are more fueled by hatred of anything that isn't related to worship of Joe than they even are by their love of Joe.

Trying to please them is like peeing into an endless abyss ... you're never filling it up.

They're just toxic.

So, the correct solution is to not try. Either JoeBots change their ways and jump on board, or, you have to cut bait with them and move on.
Hogwash. Just reverse the erasure o from the program that he built (not to mention what he did for the University at large)!

Simple stuff that could be done in a single weekend.
 

Ludd

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Go to the Penn State site, search email. You can find Kraft's and give him your instructions, Fudd.
Too late, Kraft already screwed up my plan. And name calling is very mature, but I wouldn’t expect anything more from the likes of you.
 

Moogy

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I don't really know what a JoeBot is. I just think that ignoring your incredible past as a program isn't exactly a recipe for future success.
Not knowing what a JoeBot is, is like being a room full of people and not knowing who the butthole is ... if you don't know, it's probably you.
 

DaytonRickster

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Let me give it a shot. The poster was saying that many people over the past decade have stated that they are no longer donating to PSU/Athletics in hopes the lack of donations would somehow influence what is happening at PSU/Athletics that they didn't like. However, over the past decade PSU/Athletics is still going strong and they are doing whatever they want regardless of the lack of donations from said posters withholding their donations. Secondly, unless you are donating a substantial amount to PSU where you may potentially have some influence, say $100K or more or some sort of endowment, then you really have no influence and your words are pretty much empty threats and meaningless to PSU/Athletics. Lastly, from what I understand about philanthropy at PSU, it is mostly the people that give the least that complain the most. So STFU - "posters words, not mine" - Hope this helps. :cool: 🤑 🤷‍♂️

Even if Smith were hired, I don't think it's a guarantee that Rojas is here next year.
Wasn't there a board post somewhere way back in this thread indicating Rojas might turn pro?
 

KingLando

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I don't really know what a JoeBot is. I just think that ignoring your incredible past as a program isn't exactly a recipe for future success.
Everyone knows...you just want to pretend there isn't a problem with those that put Paterno ahead of everything else. See anyone that wanted Rhule or Smith
 

KingLando

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So the SEC uses to be the best conference because it had the two best teams in the country and now it’s the best conference because of its depth….can we at least be consistent?
Wait...we're discussing two different things. The most difficult schedule for teams is the SEC because of their depth. The "best conference" is about winning titles which is shifting or has shifted to the Big Ten
 

Ludd

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Wait...we're discussing two different things. The most difficult schedule for teams is the SEC because of their depth. The "best conference" is about winning titles which is shifting or has shifted to the Big Ten
I’m not sure the SEC has the most depth. How many SEC teams had to play three top 5 teams in conference? Zero.
 

Bvillebaron

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JoeBots will never be satisfied with anyone else. At this point, JoeBots are more fueled by hatred of anything that isn't related to worship of Joe than they even are by their love of Joe.

Trying to please them is like peeing into an endless abyss ... you're never filling it up.

They're just toxic.

So, the correct solution is to not try. Either JoeBots change their ways and jump on board, or, you have to cut bait with them and move on.
I think that Paterno was the greatest college coach ever but was an ardent supporter of Franklin to the point that I have been constantly criticized for it here. Your claims about alleged JoeBOTs is beyond nonsensical and I have agreed with you on many things.
 

EricLAllen

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you know this how?

Not for sure, but it sounds like something Nick Saban said before he went to the Dolphins. I mean hell, if it wasn't about Penn State I'd already be thinking he's certainly going to wherever it was speculated. Since it's Penn State though, we all know he's not coming. It makes me wonder if he's not thinking of somewhere else, but it doesn't really matter here.
 

Itraindogs

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The Penn State job has now garnered so much negative publicity that with each day its value decreases to prospective coaches. It is truly a dumpster fire. I find it hard to believe that even with the money Campbell makes the change.
 
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SummitLion

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BS. Terry knew what he was doing with the pin. If he wasn't, and he didn't understand what the optics were, then he isn't media savvy enough for the position. It might actually end up working out for him because of how Kraft is bungling this, but it was absolutely done to drum up support.

BS. Terry knew what he was doing with the pin. If he wasn't, and he didn't understand what the optics were, then he isn't media savvy enough for the position. It might actually end up working out for him because of how Kraft is bungling this, but it was absolutely done to drum up support.
How dare he!!
 

NittanyLionRoar

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The Penn State job has now garnered so much negative publicity that with each day its value decreases to prospective coaches. It is truly a dumpster fire. I find it hard to believe that even with the money Campbell makes the change.
He's meeting with the ISU president tomorrow morning. I'm sure he'll get his ISU raise then, along with more money for his assistants and players.
 

MacNit

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Everyone knows...you just want to pretend there isn't a problem with those that put Paterno ahead of everything else. See anyone that wanted Rhule or Smith
There isn’t a problem.

It’s a matter of respect for the person that built the football program and the school from a college to a full flight university. It’s about right and wrong and standing up to bullies.

The lack of respect and mental toughness epitomizes everything that has been wrong with football program under Franklin and the University under various recent Presidents.