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Ludd

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If Campbell can’t sustain Penn State in the top-15 for recruiting classes, then it’ll be a wasted experiment bringing him in. I’m not a Terry guy, but at that point I’d rather try the experiment with Terry Smith since he has plenty of experience recruiting the level of players we need. But, Kraft won’t do that because he can’t.

Saying Penn State does not recruit itself, goes too far in its hyperbole, but it is true that Penn State requires a high-level recruiter more so than some of the other big football schools we compete against for players. That is why I don’t care for anyone who cannot recruit at a high level.
Franklin is an outstanding recruiter and people on here said he was just okay….maybe that’s because it’s not as easy as many think to recruit to Penn State. So if our next coach is not an outstanding recruiter, we won’t get higher than the 30’s. If he is an outstanding recruiter, we’ll get around 15, but there aren’t any outstanding recruiters left. And Terry Smith isn’t going to keep us in the top 15.
 

PSUSignore

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Campbell lead contender?? I am good with that. Can he attract elite QBs? Who would we get as an OC? Is he less of a CEO than you know who? I hope so and more of a football coach. I think we need to hire a GM to support him.

Can we keep the discussion to coaching candidates and not this inane bickering about Joe and Joe bots? Joe was a great man, a great coach and literally built Penn State football into the powerhouse blue blood it is today. He has been dead for almost 14 years, never forget him but let's move forward.
I hope he's in the lead, I'd prefer him over Rees or Patricia and that's the rumored top group right now. I don't know much about his recruiting history as he seems to bring in mostly 3* guys but has a knack for finding some gems. He got Brock Purdy into the NFL. Campbell seems like a high character guy too, but that concerns me in terms of how willing he might be to leave ISU high and dry by trying to bring their recently signed kids to PSU. I don't like that aspect of the business either, but it's the world we're in now and PSU could use that assist, obviously.
 

Ludd

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Go outside and touch some grass Ludd.. this is consuming you.

This will pass!
It’s the news at the moment. Why not keep up with it? I would like to see us get a good coach, but that option seems to be slipping away. Maybe I need to smoke the grass instead of touching it.
 
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SRURock24

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Franklin is an outstanding recruiter and people on here said he was just okay….maybe that’s because it’s not as easy as many think to recruit to Penn State. So if our next coach is not an outstanding recruiter, we won’t get higher than the 30’s. If he is an outstanding recruiter, we’ll get around 15, but there aren’t any outstanding recruiters left. And Terry Smith isn’t going to keep us in the top 15.
Well if and I say if we get Campbell he is a much better on field football coach than James.
 

PSU 77

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Ohio State hired Earle Bruce from Iowa State in 1979 to replaced the fired Woody Hayes.

Bruce went on to win four Big Ten Conference titles in nine seasons at Ohio State.

His career record at Ohio State was 81-26-1 before he was fired.
Johnny Majors preceded Bruce at ISU. You know the guy who won a Natty at Pitt
 
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Ludd

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Well if and I say if we get Campbell he is a much better on field football coach than James.
I would love to get Campbell, but the best on field coach in the world isn’t winning any conference or national titles with on field coaching….you have to have the talent first.
 

CyphaPSU

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Franklin is an outstanding recruiter and people on here said he was just okay….maybe that’s because it’s not as easy as many think to recruit to Penn State. So if our next coach is not an outstanding recruiter, we won’t get higher than the 30’s. If he is an outstanding recruiter, we’ll get around 15, but there aren’t any outstanding recruiters left. And Terry Smith isn’t going to keep us in the top 15.
Perhaps you are not addressing me, per se, but I am one of the people who constantly talked about how good of a recruiter CJF is. That was his biggest aptitude. However, I fully disagree that Penn State cannot be better than the 30s without James Franklin. That is way too pessimistic, in my view. Paterno, when he wasn’t even really recruiting anymore, still averaged better classes than that. For every class he had in the 30’s, he had a class in the top 10. He had plenty in the teens.
 

KingLando

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500 isn’t a losing record either by definition. Bottom line, the SEC isn’t the juggernaut you’re making it out to be. They’re very comparable conferences with strong teams, average teams, and poor teams. Depending on the draw, any team could end up with a brutal conference schedule or an easy schedule, or something in between.
you said "winning record" which it isn't
The data is the data--analysis it. The SEC has more team that are quality teams--that's a reality
That makes coaching in the SEC more difficult especially adding another conference game
 

Patterson825

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Write Campbell a c
Smart move. Why would he risk tarnishing his career coming into a dumpster fire where there are no incoming 2026 recruits; the existing recruiting staff is decimated; and players on the roster with eligibility are actively campaigning for another guy, and if their gambit fails will portal out?
Iowa State is in a lot of financial debt they won’t be able to match Penn State.
 
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Patterson825

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Campbell lead contender?? I am good with that. Can he attract elite QBs? Who would we get as an OC? Is he less of a CEO than you know who? I hope so and more of a football coach. I think we need to hire a GM to support him.

Can we keep the discussion to coaching candidates and not this inane bickering about Joe and Joe bots? Joe was a great man, a great coach and literally built Penn State football into the powerhouse blue blood it is today. He has been dead for almost 14 years, never forget him but let's move forward.
Iowa State has a NFL QB on his roster. Rocco he got hurt this year. They said he was probably coming back one more year.
 

Bison13

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Campbell is from Ohio, he has some Ohio kids on his current roster and plenty of skill players from NJ and Florida. Ohio has significantly more HS football talent than PA, so an increase in that state will help and potentially getting a few more NJ kids would be nice. I would think that in this day and age, its more about the NIL packages and we have (or at least are being told we will) much more of that than what he had at ISU. I dont know if he will be able to pull the DMV kids like JF, but if he retains the right coaches, they can help with those relationships.

His WR coach/passing coordinator was the top WR coach in the country in 24. If he can keep the current young WR on the PSU roster, that would be a HUGE improvement in coaching for that group and thus should be a huge improvement for the offense.

If they can get Campbell, this could work out well.
 

leinbacker

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Franklin is an outstanding recruiter and people on here said he was just okay….maybe that’s because it’s not as easy as many think to recruit to Penn State. So if our next coach is not an outstanding recruiter, we won’t get higher than the 30’s. If he is an outstanding recruiter, we’ll get around 15, but there aren’t any outstanding recruiters left. And Terry Smith isn’t going to keep us in the top 15.

recruiting high ranking classes is one thing, but when you recruiting leaves roster gaps, one wonders if Franklin was more interested in chasing stars than filling actual roster needs.
 

Patterson825

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For all these idiotic posts I’ve seen I’ll help all the mis informed.

Matt Campbell is a highly respected coach. The Detroit Lions, USC, and Tennessee all wanted to hire him. He never took any jobs because he said he wanted to finish the season first. 3x Big 12 coach of the year.

Iowa State is a financial mess right now. He took a pay cut to help pay his assistants more.

All the people that know college ball said it would be a great hire but have idiots on here say if he can’t recruit top 15 classes it’s a waste of time and they should just hire Terry instead Yeah look at Cignetti before you run your mouth and just say dumb crap.
 

Ram20

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I would love to get Campbell, but the best on field coach in the world isn’t winning any conference or national titles with on field coaching….you have to have the talent first.
Youre totally right...you need a master recruiter and a wonderful gameday coach. How many are out there right now? Honestly? How many of them want this job right now? I think Campbell is a homerun if we pull him in....he'll have a huge NIL to compete for players.....we just need someone that can coach and stabilize for now.
 
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Ram20

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For all these idiotic posts I’ve seen I’ll help all the mis informed.

Matt Campbell is a highly respected coach. The Detroit Lions, USC, and Tennessee all wanted to hire him. He never took any jobs because he said he wanted to finish the season first. 3x Big 12 coach of the year.

Iowa State is a financial mess right now. He took a pay cut to help pay his assistants more.

All the people that know college ball said it would be a great hire but have idiots on here say if he can’t recruit top 15 classes it’s a waste of time and they should just hire Terry instead Yeah look at Cignetti before you run your mouth and just say dumb crap.
Just one more note about him....I like him personality wise, I don't concern myself with him getting into dustups with the fans or acting like a fool in press conferences, and right now, that matters to me.
 

WaffleShopper

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For all these idiotic posts I’ve seen I’ll help all the mis informed.

Matt Campbell is a highly respected coach. The Detroit Lions, USC, and Tennessee all wanted to hire him. He never took any jobs because he said he wanted to finish the season first. 3x Big 12 coach of the year.

Iowa State is a financial mess right now. He took a pay cut to help pay his assistants more.

All the people that know college ball said it would be a great hire but have idiots on here say if he can’t recruit top 15 classes it’s a waste of time and they should just hire Terry instead Yeah look at Cignetti before you run your mouth and just say dumb crap.
Campbell should have been a top 3 candidate when the search started and it would be a miracle if we end up with him after all this. I’ve heard a few times over the weeks that he’s definitely out so unless Kraft goes crawling back to him on his hands and knees then I don’t see it happening. Really hope I’m wrong though.
 

BobPSU92

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For all these idiotic posts I’ve seen I’ll help all the mis informed.

Matt Campbell is a highly respected coach. The Detroit Lions, USC, and Tennessee all wanted to hire him. He never took any jobs because he said he wanted to finish the season first. 3x Big 12 coach of the year.

Iowa State is a financial mess right now. He took a pay cut to help pay his assistants more.

All the people that know college ball said it would be a great hire but have idiots on here say if he can’t recruit top 15 classes it’s a waste of time and they should just hire Terry instead Yeah look at Cignetti before you run your mouth and just say dumb crap.

Kraft will have to work extra hard to f*ck this up. I think he’s up to the challenge.

😞
 

doctornick

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Honestly, Campbell’s performance at Iowa St looks a lot like Franklin at Vanderbilt. Franklin's recruiting was more impactful once he was at a bigger name school. Also Pennsylvania and the surrounding area (NJ, Maryland, Virginia, Ohio) has more football talent to pick from than the Midwest where Iowa St is located.

Also, NIL money is a bigger key to recruiting and the portal nowadays anyway than simply being able to "sell the program". And Iowa St being in financial difficulty might struggle with that going forward. Plus the general revenue gap between the Big 12 and the Big Ten.

Hoping this works out. 🤞
 

EricStratton-RushChairman

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All of this head coaching insanity has reminded me I need to reevaluate the things I spend time
Can someone, anyone, please translate this for me? I think it’s supposed to be an insult but I’m not sure.

Oh, and for future reference, the period goes inside the quotes.

Next time, we’ll cover what an ellipse is…
... and a double ellipse at that
Well if and I say if we get Campbell he is a much better on field football coach than James.
so is The Waterboy
 
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doctornick

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Campbell should have been a top 3 candidate when the search started and it would be a miracle if we end up with him after all this. I’ve heard a few times over the weeks that he’s definitely out so unless Kraft goes crawling back to him on his hands and knees then I don’t see it happening. Really hope I’m wrong though.
I actually like Campbell a lot more than Sitake as an option.