New OL commit for 2014
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Yeah, you're right. Our 2014 recruiting class (dead LAST in the SEC, BTW) is freaking stellar. At least we got a commit from a project offensive lineman!
Who the 17 care? When was the last time we got a private school OL that wasn't good? Lawrence, Clayborne, Malone, etc. Steen has been damn good at Alabama too. Our staff has earned the right to be trusted when it comes to these guys.
I also remember another nobody recruit named Calhoun who didn't have any good offers- http://nafoom.yuku.com/topic/38028/So-apparently-Taveze-Calhoun-is-a-badass#.UrszYGRDvBd
Yeah, because the number of stars have mattered SO much these last few seasons.
Roland Terry?
Edited to add that RT had injuries that kept him from possibly reaching potential.
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that post was funny, yeah we spun Calhoun alright
into a cornerback that blasted every OM player within 2 feet of him at the egg bowl
into a cornerback that blasted every OM player within 2 feet of him at the egg bowl
****. I guess since this 2015 class is looking so good Mullen has decided that he can quit on this 2014 one.
in no way am I dissing on the newbe, but muther17'n stars muther17'n matter....17.
edited to say: merry muther17'n christmas
Are we going to land Humphrey, Epps, or Scarbrough?
Not that any one of them would save this class, but one would be better than where we are headed.
Not that any one of them would save this class, but one would be better than where we are headed.
He's 6'4 300 lbs as a senior in HS and looks to be a good athlete. Mullen is signing monsters on both lines and you're complaining because you don't like his offer sheet. At this point all I need to know he's a good player is that Mullen got him signed. If it was Stansbury I'd be worried. Not Mullen. Welcome aboard Mr. Calhoun and Merry Christmas.
Some people just never learn. This guy is
A great fit and will be a contributor to our success. I am amazed that this debate over stars continue when we are clearly kicking ole miss's *** with lower rated talent. We are in a position to make some major noise next year, why is that so hard for some of you to accept?
A great fit and will be a contributor to our success. I am amazed that this debate over stars continue when we are clearly kicking ole miss's *** with lower rated talent. We are in a position to make some major noise next year, why is that so hard for some of you to accept?
Uh, maybe because some of us aspire to do more than continually beat up on the bottom feeders like them, UK, etc. The ONLY way we can do that is by getting top level talent, which up to this point, Dan has not been able to do consistently.
We will NOT consistently sign top level talent. We will sign a couple per year, but the rest of the class will be guys that we will evaluate and develop through our program. There is nothing wrong with that. Mullen has done really well adding depth and talent on our team. I am a little frustrated with recruiting, due to ranking and all that **** , but I am beginning to trust a coaches evaluation of a player instead of some fat white guy in Minnesota who watches film and says he's a 5.8 4* instead of a 5.7 3*. They don't know. It isn't an exact science. There is more talent around the nation and more of it is better developed and college ready due to increased coaching clinics, camps and increased media attention/video on players. This isn't 1985. It's what we are having to do right now. When we continue to show more consistency winning for a sustained period of time, recruiting will get a little easier. We have some ins with some of the 2015 class members and some of your dicks will get hard about those stars.
OL is the hardest position to evaluate outside of maybe place kicker. Everyone has to deal with OL busts. And it's not like Mullen isn't bringing in quality guys alongside the misses.
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You are a 17ing moron if you can't see that we've got some great, underrated talent while adequately filling needs in this class. Forget about the rankings and the stars, and look at what we've put on the field the last few years versus certain comparable programs who have supposedly been beating us at the recruiting game.
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The fact that you group those guys together shows how little you know about recruiting.
You forgot a few:
Low 3* one offer - Gabe Jackson
2* one BCS offer - Dillon Day
2* one BCS offer - Blaine Clausell
2* NO offer - Ben Beckwith
Low 3* one offer - Justin Malone
Let us not forget Clayborn who Ole Miss said was unworthy of a scholarship -- yet was the first true freshman to earn PT on our OL since Derrick Sherrod.
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I can't wait until these kids prove you wrong
Only looking at stars is college football stupidity at its finest. How is it possible for guys like Gabe Jackson, Darius Slay, and Johnthan Banks to be successful? They only had 3 stars by each of their names, and Darius Slay was a 2 star out of high school before he went juco. It's because projecting 17-18 year olds is not an easy thing to do. As a matter of fact, you can look back at our history under Mullen and make an argument that we are the best talent evaluators in the conference.
The big 4 in our class right now (Aeris, Gerri Green, Graham, and Jackson) are legit prospects. They can all be game changers. Then you look at the fact that either Fitzgerald or Staley will pan out and be a solid QB for us. Logan Cooke is a solid kicker. I think he is one that will work out. Deshon Cooper is a going to be very good and how he isn't rated higher than he is baffles me. He reminds me of Dez Harris. From past history, I think we can safely say that out of Rawlings, Calhoun, Harris, and hopefully Stallings, that at least two of those guys will pan out and turn into solid contributors. Then out of Durr, Bryant, and Rayford, history suggests that at least two of those guys will pan out and be solid contributors.
The problem you have myusernamesucks and a few others is that you think we should be competing with Bama and LSU and Auburn in recruiting in year 6. That's dumb and it makes less than zero sense. We were a bottom feeder that hired a first time head coach. We approached this thing with the idea for long term growth and we weren't going to be throwing out Top 15 classes in year 2 and 3. We are building our resources slowly but surely to make sure that we have a foundation that is sustainable for the long haul. We haven't given up on this class. We've found guys that we think are 4 star and 5 star talent that just happen to have 2 and 3 stars next to their name. And until Mullen and Company start throwing out a bunch of duds on the field (which I never expect to happen), then I will start to question him. Right now, we are nowhere near that point.
Only looking at stars is college football stupidity at its finest. How is it possible for guys like Gabe Jackson, Darius Slay, and Johnthan Banks to be successful? They only had 3 stars by each of their names, and Darius Slay was a 2 star out of high school before he went juco. It's because projecting 17-18 year olds is not an easy thing to do. As a matter of fact, you can look back at our history under Mullen and make an argument that we are the best talent evaluators in the conference.
The big 4 in our class right now (Aeris, Gerri Green, Graham, and Jackson) are legit prospects. They can all be game changers. Then you look at the fact that either Fitzgerald or Staley will pan out and be a solid QB for us. Logan Cooke is a solid kicker. I think he is one that will work out. Deshon Cooper is a going to be very good and how he isn't rated higher than he is baffles me. He reminds me of Dez Harris. From past history, I think we can safely say that out of Rawlings, Calhoun, Harris, and hopefully Stallings, that at least two of those guys will pan out and turn into solid contributors. Then out of Durr, Bryant, and Rayford, history suggests that at least two of those guys will pan out and be solid contributors.
The problem you have myusernamesucks and a few others is that you think we should be competing with Bama and LSU and Auburn in recruiting in year 6. That's dumb and it makes less than zero sense. We were a bottom feeder that hired a first time head coach. We approached this thing with the idea for long term growth and we weren't going to be throwing out Top 15 classes in year 2 and 3. We are building our resources slowly but surely to make sure that we have a foundation that is sustainable for the long haul. We haven't given up on this class. We've found guys that we think are 4 star and 5 star talent that just happen to have 2 and 3 stars next to their name. And until Mullen and Company start throwing out a bunch of duds on the field (which I never expect to happen), then I will start to question him. Right now, we are nowhere near that point.
To tell you the truth, after seeing several of our recruits on the field this season versus some of the other top ranked Mississippi HS talent, I'm very excited about the guys that we have committed. Is the 2014 class stellar? No, but it is very very solid with good players at need positions. Mullen and his staff have shown an ability to judge and develop talent. If you spend too much time gazing at the stars, you miss what's happening here on Earth. This is a very good group for a small incoming class regardless of whether we get anyone else. A 6'4" 310 lb kid that can run a 4.8 40-yard dash is a real legit athlete. That means he has the physical tools. I doubt you can run a 4.8 now or in your prime. The thing about HS lineman on either side is that very few actually know or consistently use technique. They dominate HS by size and brute strength, but in college they have to be athletic and use more technique. You never know which young men have the internal fortitude and drive to learn their craft well enough to become starters in the SEC. I will also say that in many cases, the kids that don't develop aren't "misses" or screw ups or not talented, other circumstances such as injury, family issues, interest in academics, relationships affect their development. They can be great kids and good athletes but not make it to the top level for many reasons. That's why you see 4- and 5-star OL underperform. Do they have the physical tools? Yes, but other circumstances dictate their top end performance. Judging recruiting classes based solely on stars awarded by sportswriters and bloggers, many of which have not played collegiate football, is pure folly. Take the time to go to a few games, watch some game film yourself, and then make some judgements. I saw Rod Taylor play this year and he may develop into a great college OL, but in the game I personally observed, he was average…just bigger than everyone else. That doesn't mean we wouldn't want a guy with his size and athletic ability, but it does mean that judging talent is subjective…not objective or factual.
What do you expect him to say? You don't think anyone should ***** when we beat out furman and memphis for a kid?
I want to take a guess what your problem is(and others like you)
You hang out with a bunch of Ole Miss folks. You are obnoxious as hell, and talk much **** to them. So when things happen, they come back at you with the obnoxious **** talking. This drives you 17ing crazy, so you take it out on things you really don't know that much about, but think you do, like recruiting and evaluating football talent. It's the kind of behavior that gets a drink dumped on your head by a fat OM ***** in the grove outside the porta-pottys. No?
You hang out with a bunch of Ole Miss folks. You are obnoxious as hell, and talk much **** to them. So when things happen, they come back at you with the obnoxious **** talking. This drives you 17ing crazy, so you take it out on things you really don't know that much about, but think you do, like recruiting and evaluating football talent. It's the kind of behavior that gets a drink dumped on your head by a fat OM ***** in the grove outside the porta-pottys. No?
Welcome aboard guys. You have to remember, every school has a few morons who post on message boards.
