Mountain Heritage passed Murphy but the Dogs will repass them likely with a win tomorrow night.
https://www.nchsaa.org/football-rpi-ranking
https://www.nchsaa.org/football-rpi-ranking
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New RPI for 1A just came out at midnight
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5-10 is tighter than a banjo string. There'll be some jockeying for position tonight there, and if Starmount beats East Wilkes, they could possibly overtake Mitchell for #3. However, that wouldn't make a difference in seeding purposes. It's hard to judge now with so many games being on the books, without some serious number crunching. I think the top 10 is pretty close to what we'll see after tonight.
Looking at it from a seeding perspective it looks like the top 3 at set. 4-7 is still in question with TF, MIC, Thomasville, and Robbinsville. Mountain Heritage, Starmount, and Murphy fighting for 8th and potential for 2 home playoff games. This is of course if they all win tonight.
current bracket
1 Eastern Randolph
32 Avery
16 East Wilkes
17 Draughn
9 Mountain Heritage
24 Bishop McGuinness
8 Starmount
25 Christ the King
4 MICS
29 South Davidson
13 North Rowan
20 North Stokes
12 South Stokes
21 Bessemer City
5 Thomas Jefferson
28 Albemarle
2 Mount Airy
31 South Stanly
15 Cherokee
18 Elkin
10 Murphy
23 Cherryville
7 Robbinsville
26 Alleghany
3 Mitchell
30 Union Academy
14 Andrews
19 Carver
11 Swain
22 Hayesville
6 Thomasville
27 Highland Tech
1 Eastern Randolph
32 Avery
16 East Wilkes
17 Draughn
9 Mountain Heritage
24 Bishop McGuinness
8 Starmount
25 Christ the King
4 MICS
29 South Davidson
13 North Rowan
20 North Stokes
12 South Stokes
21 Bessemer City
5 Thomas Jefferson
28 Albemarle
2 Mount Airy
31 South Stanly
15 Cherokee
18 Elkin
10 Murphy
23 Cherryville
7 Robbinsville
26 Alleghany
3 Mitchell
30 Union Academy
14 Andrews
19 Carver
11 Swain
22 Hayesville
6 Thomasville
27 Highland Tech
If this bracket were to hold out, there would be some great potential 2nd round games.
Thomasville and Swain
Andrews and Mitchell
Robbinsville and Murphy
Mount Airy and Cherokee
MICS and North Rowan
Starmount and Mountain Heritage.
I guess we'll see tonight...
Thomasville and Swain
Andrews and Mitchell
Robbinsville and Murphy
Mount Airy and Cherokee
MICS and North Rowan
Starmount and Mountain Heritage.
I guess we'll see tonight...
Doubt it, If Robbinsville lost tonight they would drop out of the top 10. Their RPI has been in the cellar for the most part. They have beat and played big school but none of those schools have great records.
Think Robbinsville jumps Thomasville after it wins tonight. Hayesville will be just 3-7, but Thomasville beats Lexington which will be 0-8. That jumps the Knights ahead imo. And Murphy will jump back in front of Mountain Heritage for the 9 spot. Just my opinion but I see those two things happening
Who would be conference champion if they lost? Would they not still be a No 1 seed out of SMC? Which means a No. 7 spot. Not that they will lose but hypothetically
That has nothing to do with it. If Robbinsville is the No. 1 seed they are in front of Starmount regardless. Not sure why you continue to take shots at other schools, Starmount has nothing to do with Robbinsville being seeded.
If Murphy wins and Robbinsville loses then I believe Robbinsville would still be the 1 seed, unless Swain wins also creating a 3 way tie. Then. I'm not sure if the tie breaker would go to RPI or draw?
That is the one that killed Robbinsville as far as RPI and losses go. Take that away and they are No. 4 with ease imo.
That’s what I thought thanks. I see no way Robbinsville isn’t the league champ and is any lower than No. 7
Murphy has only 1 conference loss....like robbinsville...so if they win and robbinsville loses murphy wins conference.
I am thinking the same thing. Robbinsville gets 6 with a potential 3rd round with Mitchell. Murphy gets 8 or 9 with a potential 3rd round with ER.
I'm not talking bad about starmount.
I'm talking bad about this system. A system that has starmount RPI top 4.
Starmount gets a lot of credit for playing 2 undefeated teams. If Broome and Brevard were undefeated, Robbinsville would be right there at the top.
Well 6 would play Mitchell and 7 would play Mt. Airy. The 2nd round game would not be a given at 6 or 7 either. It would be a Heritage or Swain type team. Robbinsville would be favored but would have to play good.
Ok so schedule a homeschool team that is 9-1 which their only loss is to Robbinsville the only public school they play by 40 and you will get a high ranking. This system rewards playing weak opponents that have inflated records.
Look at MIC with high WP and low OWP. The same effect with Starmount with lower WP but a really high OWP. Both ahead of Robbinsville who has a very consist across the board numbers.
It's an RPI, not a ranking. It's all math based, no opinions involved. Of all things that change throughout history, math is really the only constant. Science has changed, language has changed, history has changed, geology has changed. Math is math, and math is an unobjective constant. This system doesn't reward whipping poor competition, it rewards playing and BEATING good competition. The largest factor in the rating is your opponents winning percentage. Starmount has played quality competition and have won enough games to make up for their losses. I'm pretty sure all of Mitchell's non-conference opponents have winning records, and while the WHC is weaker than horse piss this year, having Mountain Heritage and Draughn .500 or better has helped offset the remaining teams with poor records in the conference. Robbinsville on the flip side, played a 3-6 (I think) Broome and 3-6 (again I think) Brevard along with a 7-2 Asheville. It doesn't matter how much bigger or better Broome may be, they have a crap record. I like the RPI system, but it does need some tweaking. There needs to be a factor for playing different sized schools.
Actually it came out @ 10:09pm I wanted to see how close I came to one of the real RPI I figured could be . My guess for estimate fort Mtn Heritage was 0.57349 the real is 0.57276 so not so bad , but it will change again because after the games tonight their oopw will change.
I like this system…the human element is gone,it’s math so it’s unbiased
Exactly. And we know the exact formula, so coaches can schedule accordingly.
If Murphy win and Robbinsville loses, Murphy is 4-1 and Rob 3-2 Murphy is conference champion..If they both win and both 4-1 then Robbinsville is conference champion because they won in head to head competition. If they both lose and Swain wins causing a 3 way tie Robbinsville is conference champion again winning head to head.
Tie breakers are decided by head to head competition unless you can't break the tie that way then RPI is used if they have identical RPI then they draw from a hat.
Take it easy on BK. Without adm’s and early college the only things left to get him worked up are RPI’s and Charters
It will come down to the oopw on wether Startmont will take over Mitchell. If they both win tonight and you leave the oopw where they are now Mitchell is still ahead so looks you'd have to have Mitchell's oopw drop between 2.5% & 3% and Starmount's go up that much for them to take over.
It doesn't matter for seeding. Starmount will be no higher than 8th being a 2nd place team.
Are you using current RPI's and just predicting conference champions?
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Right I was just referring to the RPI rankings wether they would overtake Mitchell in being #3. But correct whether they are #3 or #4 they probably only be around #8 seed.
If Starmount loses and Murphy wins do you think Murphy has any chance of passing them in RPI rankings Old Mountaineer? A cursory glance and it looks like it would be real close.
Looks like East Wilkes very well is playing for a home 1st round game tonight against Starmount. A win could push them up a spot or 2. Also if Elkin beats South Stokes tonight and East Wilkes losses does that swap EW & Elkin seeds since Elkin won the regular season matchup?
No. All conference champs are seeded (based on RPI). Once they are seeded everyone else (since 1A only has < 32 teams) is seeded based on RPI.
Once you get into 2A, where there are more than the 32 teams in the west, you have to account for any teams that automatically qualify (2nd place conference finisher, with conference that has at least 6+ teams playing) as they will make it to the playoffs, but are still seeded with everyone that did not win the conference based on RPI.
It's not an exact math without knowing the final oopw but looks like if 9 of the top 10 in the RPI rankings right now wins tonight and Startmont loses then yeah I think Murphy goes to #4 and Startmont drops to possibly #9.