New RPI for 1A just came out at midnight

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Is that projecting wins tonight or is that not counting tonight s games.?
Not sure I meationed on another thread I would have Robbinsville 6 & Thomasville 7 because I believe their RPI will be higher but someone said OT is using RPI's as they are now. But obviously they are predicting Robbinsville to win the conference.
Looks like they maybe doing both using current RPI's but predicting conference champions because they have a footnote concerning Robbinsville..."**Robbinsville must avoid an upset loss to Hayesville to secure the spot."
 
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Not sure I meationed on another thread I would have Robbinsville 6 & Thomasville 7 because I believe their RPI will be higher but someone said OT is using RPI's as they are now. But obviously they are predicting Robbinsville to win the conference.
Looks like they maybe doing both using current RPI's but predicting conference champions because they have a footnote concerning Robbinsville..."**Robbinsville must avoid an upset loss to Hayesville to secure the spot."
As a Thomasville fan, I agree with you. Playing Lexington will almost certainly drop Thomasville. I also agree that it is based on math, which isn’t subjective. But I do think they are taking the calculations too far. You don’t control your conference. You do control your record to a degree with how you play. But you have zero control over who your opponents schedule. That shouldn’t even be a factor. Using opponents opponents winning percentage is ludicrous and that’s where human error factors into this. Dumb decision.
Unfortunately, this year there is another huge factor in that COVID is affecting the results. Losing out on games affects the math, even though your team may have done everything it could to avoid it.
 
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Looks like fastest everyone gets the scores tonight to MaxPreps the faster the new RPI rankings will come out. I thought that maybe MaxPreps waited for the schools to officially report the scores but I reported the Mtn Heritage/Draughn game to them while they had to verify and approve it ,it didn't take long and they sent me an email thinking me for the report.
 
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Robbinsvilles fault on where they are..had they won the 3 games they lost(which all were very winnable)I have them at .68714....2nd place rpi
But man they had to deal with a lot of Covid issues like ER did, and I’m sure other schools. Makes it tough to get in a rhythm and to stay sharp. Feel like that’s what happened in Brevard game.
 

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As a Thomasville fan, I agree with you. Playing Lexington will almost certainly drop Thomasville. I also agree that it is based on math, which isn’t subjective. But I do think they are taking the calculations too far. You don’t control your conference. You do control your record to a degree with how you play. But you have zero control over who your opponents schedule. That shouldn’t even be a factor. Using opponents opponents winning percentage is ludicrous and that’s where human error factors into this. Dumb decision.
Unfortunately, this year there is another huge factor in that COVID is affecting the results. Losing out on games affects the math, even though your team may have done everything it could to avoid it.
Your conference which is correct a school can't control can hurt you it's happening to Mitchell as well so I understand but it does push a school to schedule quality schools in non-conference.
There going to be something wrong with any system. I've meationed on other threads that adding getting an extra credit for beating a bigger school to me is a good idea if example if we had the same system as CO who uses RPI but the extra credit in Mitchell's first 3 games were there wp was .667 after going 2-1 against one 3A and two 4A's in CO their wp would have be like .95
You could also use the NCAA RPI which is 25-50-25 or make your own 30-50-25 to give less weight to the oopw because there is big lose of control there.
 

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Your conference which is correct a school can't control can hurt you it's happening to Mitchell as well so I understand but it does push a school to schedule quality schools in non-conference.
There going to be something wrong with any system. I've meationed on other threads that adding getting an extra credit for beating a bigger school to me is a good idea if example if we had the same system as CO who uses RPI but the extra credit in Mitchell's first 3 games were there wp was .667 after going 2-1 against one 3A and two 4A's in CO their wp would have be like .95
You could also use the NCAA RPI which is 25-50-25 or make your own 30-50-25 to give less weight to the oopw because there is big lose of control there.
I’m saying it shouldn’t be counted at all. How many times during the season did a team have to play a different team at the last minute due to a cancellation? Or how is an AD supposed to know two years in advance who his home and away agreement opponent is going to schedule. I just don’t think schools should be rewarded or punished based on who their opponent plays. Take that factor out altogether and I think the system makes sense.
 

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Robbinsvilles fault on where they are..had they won the 3 games they lost(which all were very winnable)I have them at .68714....2nd place rpi
I got .672605 lol but yeah ether way they'd be second. But if they had just played and won the game game that was cancelled they be 6-3 .667 instead of 5-3 .625 which if my math is close around .572705 which would be #6 right now.
Of course we all have a (if)...if a frog had wings
 
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I got .672605 lol but yeah ether way they'd be second. But if they had just played and won the game game that was cancelled they be 6-3 .667 instead of 5-3 .625 which if my math is close around .572705 which would be #6 right now.
Of course we all have a (if)...if a frog had wings
9 games is all robbinsville had scheduled..Smokey Mountain and Mt. Heritage were both replaced.
 

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9 games is all robbinsville had scheduled..Smokey Mountain and Mt. Heritage were both replaced.
Oh okay well then nevermind I assumed they just couldn't make up one but I didn't think about with a 6 team conference you've got to schedule 5 non-conference games to get to 10, easier when you're in a 7 teams conference.
 
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I’m saying it shouldn’t be counted at all. How many times during the season did a team have to play a different team at the last minute due to a cancellation? Or how is an AD supposed to know two years in advance who his home and away agreement opponent is going to schedule. I just don’t think schools should be rewarded or punished based on who their opponent plays. Take that factor out altogether and I think the system makes sense.
Yeah probably they got the RPI system from the NCAA who's used it for years in a lot sports they just dropped it in division 1 men's basketball a couple years ago but still use in women's and other spots.
Some how you've got to give percentages let's say you do away with oopw and just use wp & opw with 40% for wp and 60% for opw right now the change in the current top 10 would be TJ & Thomasville would change places by a small margin. It would though be a lot simpler math. I guess it would be to easy and we can't have that 🙃
 

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I did the top 10 earlier in my estimate on potential RPI rankings I added down to the top 16.
Of course guessing on game outcomes took Swain over Cherokee like some other tossups simply home field advantage might still have taken Cherokee if they had beaten Hayesville but in the SMC who the heck knows....this is estimated RPI rating NOT seedings.
Edited it with known game results should have stuck with Cherokee lol

1 Eastern Randolph
2 Mount Airy
3 Mitchell
4 Starmount
5 Mtn Island Charter
6 Mtn Heritage
7 Thomas Jefferson ( Robbinsville)
8 Robbinsville. ( Thomas Jefferson)
9 Murphy
10 Thomasville
11 South Stokes
12 Andrews
13 Cherokee
14 North Rowan
15 Swain
16 Draughn ( ended up being Elkin looking back my numbers should have gone with them their oopw going up 3.4% got me.)

*** If my math is close ( and that's questionable) but if Andrews upsets Murphy and Robbinsville beats Hayesville in my estimates Murphy would drop to #9 Robbinsville to #8 and Andrews at least goes to #12 , #11 if South Stokes loses.

*** ( Correction after real RPI came out still can't figure how I got TJ opw so wrong)
 
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