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That's an ugly lineup. More programs look like they will jump over us and VT could very well be one of them.
Until this staff starts recruiting the "long/tall" type of wrestler, things won't improve.

The 3 pt takedown has made that 1st period score the key to winning. Can't continuously go scoreless into the 2nd period and expect to win on ride outs.
Guys like KP, Estrada, PK, GA, Williams, etc simply aren't title threats because they are all too short against decent competition.
Recruit the Minnesota/Nebraska model.
No more midgets wrestling up weights!
 
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How you got me trying to snipe Brands’ integrity is anyone’s guess. I am trying to make sense of the situation because no one on here can say for sure what happened.

What I don’t have a problem saying is that I believe anyone other than Brands finds a way to make the Endene situation work. Brands clearly has a line that he is unwilling to bend which leads to emotional decisions like kicking off a potential all American in the middle of the season.

If Endene is good to go after not competing for a month and working out then why hasn’t the olive branch been extended and he invited back on the team with the promise he wrestles, thus eliminating the fear of taking a medical? Honest question.
People on here can say what happened, people on here won’t say what happened because it’s not our place to say it. There are plenty of things you can criticize Tom for, the Endene situation isn’t one of them.

I find it funny people on here are spouting out “truths” that were written by perpetual Iowa and Brands haters that want nothing more than to see Iowa fail. Some of the haters had “DMs” from Ayala saying he hates the Brands and won’t speak to them again. Funny he would feel that way and still be wrestling here. He’s a 2x NCAA finalist and would’ve gotten his fair share of money if he wanted out. Also he hates it so bad that his brother (who isn’t an Iowa starter) came and stayed as well as Drake. You can’t believe everything you read on the internet especially when it comes from people with an agenda.
 

sdvike

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Wow shocking so he just needed some time to heal and wasn’t quitting on his team?
Or it wasn't as serious of an injury that he and his personal physician wanted the team to believe. Myself, I think he saw his stock rise after the Stout win and the windfall next year and shut it down. His loss could have been substantial when Big ten schedule came. Don't like it but can't blame him with today's college market.
 

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People on here can say what happened, people on here won’t say what happened because it’s not our place to say it. There are plenty of things you can criticize Tom for, the Endene situation isn’t one of them.

I find it funny people on here are spouting out “truths” that were written by perpetual Iowa and Brands haters that want nothing more than to see Iowa fail. Some of the haters had “DMs” from Ayala saying he hates the Brands and won’t speak to them again. Funny he would feel that way and still be wrestling here. He’s a 2x NCAA finalist and would’ve gotten his fair share of money if he wanted out. Also he hates it so bad that his brother (who isn’t an Iowa starter) came and stayed as well as Drake. You can’t believe everything you read on the internet especially when it comes from people with an agenda.
I’ve been vocal about disliking Brands but I have never wanted or rooted for them or Iowa to fail. I have never heard anything about the weird Ayala thing but it wouldn’t sway me either way.

When Iowa isn’t winning it opens itself and the coaching up to pretty much all criticism. It would go a long way if people didn’t hide behind the whole “people on here know but won’t say what happened because it’s not our place to say.” It’s such crap. The boards are a perfect place to put to bed rumors with the truth.

A program doesn’t have to be run with cold war secrecy. That same mentality supposedly hurt Iowa in the past with the “negative recruiting” bit.
 
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Feel free to correct. Why was Mo kicked off the team? Was it for wanting a month off to rest an injury or was it due to pay?

Is the hold up because the medical staff cleared him and he still wanted to wrestle without pain?

Is Ferrari cleared to wrestle? If so why hasn’t he?

do you not see the similarities?
No, i dont see the similarities because your assumptions and facts are a little off
 
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Me asking questions are now assumptions and facts? The floor is yours to correct the record.
Knowing the void they would have at 197 without Mo, do you honestly think this all happened cuz they wouldn’t wait a month to let him get healthier? It’s not like they have really been focusing on winning duals this year anyway.

Mo wanted to get himself an extra year and the injury gave him an opportunity to do so. With a newborn in tow, money is at a premium.

Saying any other coach but Brands would have got it done is laughable. The team only needs him for this season and had no plans to pay him for next season.

On top of all that it has been said that the team received no revenue sharing this year, so any additional payment to get him back on the mat THIS year would have had to come from NIL and be approved by the clearinghouse. It is entirely possible no body wanted to be held ransom and fund it any further..
 

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Knowing the void they would have at 197 without Mo, do you honestly think this all happened cuz they wouldn’t wait a month to let him get healthier? It’s not like they have really been focusing on winning duals this year anyway.

Mo wanted to get himself an extra year and the injury gave him an opportunity to do so. With a newborn in tow, money is at a premium.

Saying any other coach but Brands would have got it done is laughable. The team only needs him for this season and had no plans to pay him for next season.

On top of all that it has been said that the team received no revenue sharing this year, so any additional payment to get him back on the mat THIS year would have had to come from NIL and be approved by the clearinghouse. It is entirely possible no body wanted to be held ransom and fund it any further..
It’s difficult to discern what’s real and what’s not with all the things being said and the ones with the actual knowledge refusing to say. I have no idea on how the NIL payments and scheduling work.

Is the consensus that Endene was saying he needed time off and not wrestle for the month but he would have been paid (what he was owed) during that time and then he was going to bail?

And others are saying he wanted more money than what had been agreed upon and he was not owed any more money?

I know we’ve gone back and forth a bit but I do appreciate you taking the time to answer. I have no problem admitting I was wrong if Mo tried holding them up for more money.
 

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It’s difficult to discern what’s real and what’s not with all the things being said and the ones with the actual knowledge refusing to say. I have no idea on how the NIL payments and scheduling work.

Is the consensus that Endene was saying he needed time off and not wrestle for the month but he would have been paid (what he was owed) during that time and then he was going to bail?

And others are saying he wanted more money than what had been agreed upon and he was not owed any more money?

I know we’ve gone back and forth a bit but I do appreciate you taking the time to answer. I have no problem admitting I was wrong if Mo tried holding them up for more money.
It may not sound like me, but I am not looking to go round and round on this one. I simply am telling you what I have been told. I am not saying I heard it from someone so tight inside the room that it should be taken as gospel, but I do trust it enough to confidently put it on here…take it as you will.
 
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chipackhawk

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Its called a second opinion and athletes use it all the time. Not sure why you think its funny business?
As long as there is some kind of issue, you could get a doctor to side with you (ie. favorable opinion for you) simply by asking. The doctor for the university has a vested interest in getting it right either way it goes. Just look at worker's compensation issues for a little insight on the matter. And don't give me the ethical BS that no doctor would ever do such a thing.
 

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Or it wasn't as serious of an injury that he and his personal physician wanted the team to believe. Myself, I think he saw his stock rise after the Stout win and the windfall next year and shut it down. His loss could have been substantial when Big ten schedule came. Don't like it but can't blame him with today's college market.
Put this in light of just having a kid. If you can't get your deal renegotiated with Iowa, this is your plan B. Don't love it as a fan, but get it as a father.
 

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Well, who’s brilliant idea was it to start bringing in and paying these one year transfers to try and fill holes everywhere in the lineup?!? When has that actually worked out well for Iowa?? Mikey C and Buchanan were obviously successes in the past five years. Otherwise Franek, Mo, Teemer, Parco, and a bunch of other guys were misses in the portal. This isn’t basketball, you can’t just dip into the portal every year, because the best guys aren’t leaving Penn State, Ohio State or Oklahoma State for a payday.
Franek won a ton of duals for us and also AA'ed. Teemer and Parco were also critical for dual success last year beating Nebraska and such. I would not call them misses. Austin Desanto is also a transfer. So is Jayden Eireman and Real Woods. All did very well for Iowa. Peterson is currently doing well.

Parco and Teemer had a bad NCAA due to injuries, and Mo bailed on us. Otherwise, most of our transfers have been good. Bailey and Williams still figuring things out, Big Ten is much different than Pac-12
 

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Well, who’s brilliant idea was it to start bringing in and paying these one year transfers to try and fill holes everywhere in the lineup?!? When has that actually worked out well for Iowa?? Mikey C and Buchanan were obviously successes in the past five years. Otherwise Franek, Mo, Teemer, Parco, and a bunch of other guys were misses in the portal. This isn’t basketball, you can’t just dip into the portal every year, because the best guys aren’t leaving Penn State, Ohio State or Oklahoma State for a payday.
Franek AAd and Parco was nails all year until his knee got twisted up
 

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We are about to lose two guys that are national finalists and another All-American in PK. We aren’t replacing them with anyone, will this be the worst Iowa team of the century next year??? I don’t remember the details of how bad things were with Zalesky at the end.
Two years ago when our second half of the lineup was: Caliendo, Kennedy, Riggins, Glazier, and Hill was pretty rough. I think 0 points at NCAA for 184/197/285. Rathjen at 149 wasn't very good either. Lee, Woods, Franek, and Caliendo were the only saving grace for the lineup, and that was the year Lee underperformed (6th), Woods underperformed (2nd to 4th), Franek underperformed (4th to 7th) and only Caliendo improved (7th to 4th). Teske at 133 was hit or miss for most duals, and I think he made bloodround at NCAA's. This, in my opinion, was the worst year for Iowa in recent history.
 

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No he didn't. Michigan and Purdue count only as one appearance because it was the same weekend. You can only use one of these double dual weekends per season to count as one appearance. I know I didn't verbalize this well.
It doesn't change the substance of what you said, but you can use two two-day tournaments or two duals in three days exceptions per season.
 
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Franek won a ton of duals for us and also AA'ed. Teemer and Parco were also critical for dual success last year beating Nebraska and such. I would not call them misses. Austin Desanto is also a transfer. So is Jayden Eireman and Real Woods. All did very well for Iowa. Peterson is currently doing well.

Parco and Teemer had a bad NCAA due to injuries, and Mo bailed on us. Otherwise, most of our transfers have been good. Bailey and Williams still figuring things out, Big Ten is much different than Pac-12
This makes Tom and Terry not look great. I said five years, but if you want to include all these guys, Austin Desanto was a great success and developed extremely well at Iowa. Jaydin Eierman, one of my all time favorite Hawkeyes, was great his first year and injured his last year. The same exact thing with Real Woods and he regressed. Teemer was seemingly hurt his entire Iowa tenure. Parco got injured in his only year at Iowa. Mo also got injured. Franek did a heck of a lot better at NDSU than Iowa. Every single one of these guys above (excluding Desanto) regressed and most got injured at Iowa. Every Single Guy.
 
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This makes Tom and Terry not look great. I said five years, but if you want to include all these guys, Austin Desanto was a great success and developed extremely well at Iowa. Jaydin Eierman, one of my all time favorite Hawkeyes, was great his first year and injured his last year. The same exact thing with Real Woods and he regressed. Teemer was seemingly hurt his entire Iowa tenure. Parco got injured in his only year at Iowa. Mo also got injured. Franek did a heck of a lot better at NDSU than Iowa. Every single one of these guys above (excluding Desanto) regressed and most got injured at Iowa. Every Single Guy.
Eierman tore his ACL in match against Chad Red. Teemer hurt his hamstring in match against ISU. Parco hurt himself in match at NCAAs. How is Tom supposed to stop that from happening. Just not wrestle? Also Franek being “ a heck of a lot” better at NDSU is just not true.
 

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Eierman tore his ACL in match against Chad Red. Teemer hurt his hamstring in match against ISU. Parco hurt himself in match at NCAAs. How is Tom supposed to stop that from happening. Just not wrestle? Also Franek being “ a heck of a lot” better at NDSU is just not true.
So Iowa guys are constantly, and I mean constantly, beaten down and/or injured before or during March. Iowa should adapt to new school thoughts of training and injury prevention because whatever they are doing is currently about to drive this program off a cliff. It’s probably already happened honestly.
 

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Eierman tore his ACL in match against Chad Red. Teemer hurt his hamstring in match against ISU. Parco hurt himself in match at NCAAs. How is Tom supposed to stop that from happening. Just not wrestle? Also Franek being “ a heck of a lot” better at NDSU is just not true.
Agree with you on this. Add Woods neck disk issue (certainly not an over training issue). I'd make the argument that Franek suffered from having to wrestle a much tougher schedule in the Big 10 and lowering his seed a bit in the tourney.

Teemer benefitted from being out the previous year prior to making the finals at ASU. Allowed his body to heal up some. Teemer was a guy that probably was destined to be injured that year in Iowa no matter what the coaching staff did. I thought Elam was worth the risk this year for the same reason, he basically had an entire year off prior to this year.
 
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So Iowa guys are constantly, and I mean constantly, beaten down and/or injured before or during March. Iowa should adapt to new school thoughts of training and injury prevention because whatever they are doing is currently about to drive this program off a cliff. It’s probably already happened honestly.
PSU had serious injuries occur to Nolf (knee), Soriano (ankle), Cassar (shoulder), Van Ness (ACL), Rasheed (shoulder), Berge (concussion, Kerkvelet(knee), .... hell Nagao, Davis and Barr have all been hurt this year alone.

My point is, if you spend the time looking you find out wrestling is tough and injuries are unavoidable regardless of whose coaching. The difference is PSU always has a room full of guys to plug in and most of these injuries are forgotten and become an after thought. If you want to crawl down TnT throats it shouldn't necessarily be for injuries. Rather the inability to establish a room with depth who has the next man in mentality.
 

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I don’t know if this vid has been posted already(I’m too lazy to check) but Askren gives his opinion on the Brands. I also didn’t want to start a new thread so I just added it to this thread. It’s pretty good imo.


His claim about Iowa's recruiting being on par or better than PSU is extremely dubious. You've got to be kidding me. Jayce Rhodes is the only guy left from the 22 class.
 
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His claim about Iowa's recruiting being on par or better than PSU is extremely dubious. You've got to be kidding me. Jayce Rhodes is the only guy left from the 22 class.
Totally agree. I don't care what some H.S. recruiting class ranking stats might show, especially if averaged over a longer period, nobody can (with a straight face) look at recruiting over the last 5-7 years and think we are remotely close to PSU, and more recently, a couple other teams. I mean, how many Fr/RFr phenoms (actual D1 performance) we had? Was Spencer the only in last 10 years? That aside, I tend to agree with him on other points, in this video and others I've seen. Just think he tends to weigh 'development' more because he 1) makes money off it, and 2) he primarily works with youth and THAT is the time when development is MOST possible and crucial. But don't tell me recent Iowa recruiting has been anywhere near on par with PSU (and recently OSU).
 

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He was also at a local club wrestling with some HS kids guess his neck is fine 🤷
Well having a bad neck isn’t going to help you get picked up by another D1 for a big bag. That strategy worked to get out of his commitment to us this year and get a medical, but now that he’s shopping around he needs to be suddenly cured.
 
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If it was in fact about money, in my opinion that was initiated by Endene. If it was about him wanting to take a medical and come back next year, then my guess it was Brands who drew the line in the sand. Wrestle now or don't bother because the plan all along was for Ludington to be the guy next year. Zero chance Brands simply wanted him off the team when he is on the hot seat and his points in March would have mattered.
I think he wanted to renegotiate his deal for coming back next year and Tom needed him most this year, and knows when he’s being shook down.
 

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This makes Tom and Terry not look great. I said five years, but if you want to include all these guys, Austin Desanto was a great success and developed extremely well at Iowa. Jaydin Eierman, one of my all time favorite Hawkeyes, was great his first year and injured his last year. The same exact thing with Real Woods and he regressed. Teemer was seemingly hurt his entire Iowa tenure. Parco got injured in his only year at Iowa. Mo also got injured. Franek did a heck of a lot better at NDSU than Iowa. Every single one of these guys above (excluding Desanto) regressed and most got injured at Iowa. Every Single Guy.
I always look at transfers short term vs long term. Short term transfers are more like mercenaries, which has only gotten worse in the NIL era. Long term transfers are more like “re-recruits” who have time to be fully integrated and invested in the program. There are the occasional short-term mercenaries that work out (Suriano at Mich, Buchanan, Hamiti/Hendo), but if you look at both Iowa and PSU, the short term recruits are much more likely to regress (due to injury or whatever): Franek, Teemer, Parco, Endene at Iowa or Truax, Hildebrandt, Conel at PSU., the long term re-recruit transfer tend to be much more likely to live up to expectations (or exceed them): ADS, Caliendo, Lugo, Eierman, Kerkvliet,,Mesenbrink, etc. Reloading with mercenaries every year is a ticket to mediocrity.
 

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Does anyone have a link to Willy's list he was talking about? Or paste it here if behind a paywall. I thought the video was fair/balanced. I was shocked at just how many points have been coming from NIL/transfers. You can only make a living off that for so long before it comes back to bite you.
 
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Totally agree. I don't care what some H.S. recruiting class ranking stats might show, especially if averaged over a longer period, nobody can (with a straight face) look at recruiting over the last 5-7 years and think we are remotely close to PSU, and more recently, a couple other teams. I mean, how many Fr/RFr phenoms (actual D1 performance) we had? Was Spencer the only in last 10 years? That aside, I tend to agree with him on other points, in this video and others I've seen. Just think he tends to weigh 'development' more because he 1) makes money off it, and 2) he primarily works with youth and THAT is the time when development is MOST possible and crucial. But don't tell me recent Iowa recruiting has been anywhere near on par with PSU (and recently OSU).
I think you take the development thing all wrong. That and recruiting go hand in hand. Sure, they develop faster in the youth stage, but its not just about technique. He is big on alot of sports psychologist thoughts, and thats a big part of development at the higher level. Penn State tends to overperform when the lights are on. Unfortunately, Iowa doesnt. Its not just about about wrestling technique. I would argue that at the D1 level, the development between the ears is more important. He mentioned guys leaving both programs with different thoughts about their experience. PSU guys speak highly of the program, even after they move on. They talk about stepping on campus and going weeks without getting a takedown. Or getting ridden out an entire practice. Those are some wrestlers that probably spent the last few years dominating everyone. Thats part of development as well, and they themselves say that. Those kinds of stories help recruiting way more than shoveling sidewalks.
 
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Winning at elite college football and basketball has changed with the transfer portal and NIL. Winning at elite college wrestling however has not changed. You still need to recruit the best high school guys or transfers like ADS and Messinbrink and develop them over three to six years. There is no shortcut in wrestling with the transfer portal. It can be used to plug spots. Iowa has tried to win through the portal and it hasn’t gone well overall.