Not being a good QB , doesn’t mean you can’t be a great Kid

[nutfromSEC117]

Too many of you think saying players just don’t have it means you are saying they are bad kids.

By all accounts Gavin is a great kid and will be a leader in life

He’s just not a good QB

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

I think he’s the worst starting QB that I can remember here. Over his head big time and a huge miss by Schiano.

 

[RUTGERS95]

I think he’s the worst starting QB that I can remember here. Over his head big time and a huge miss by Schiano.

I actually agree with this. I can't recall a worse qb ever and I've been here a long time

 

[jordkap]

I actually agree with this. I can't recall a worse qb ever and I've been here a long time

Really? Ever? We went through a couple years where there would be games with 1 passing yard followed by 12 passing yards

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Last 4 passes to wide open field turf

If you’re not an accurate QB in college
You MUST be very mobile and just kill teams running all over the place. GW is neither.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Corey Valentine
Ralph Sacca

 

[RUBlackout]

He is BAD!! Like statistically the worst QB

And he isn’t progressing in any game. Doesn’t even GM through his progressions either

 

[RUTGERS95]

Really? Ever? We went through a couple years where there would be games with 1 passing yard followed by 12 passing yards

nope, we've not had a starting qb that's been as bad as GAV

EVER since I've been here or associated with the program. EVER

GAV sucks, flat out sucks and is overrated.

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

Yeah he’s the worst ever, bring back real winners like Laviano and Sitkowski, who can forget the bowls they led us to

 

[nutfromSEC117]

Just Being better then Sit doesn’t mean you’re good

The OL is much better this year.
Years past QB couldn’t even finish a 5 step drop before he was hit.

 

[koleszar]

Take the NIL money and put it to better use. No one would take him.

 

[RUforlife]

I don't belief anybody on this board ever said Gavin was a bad kid, quite the contrary, he is a great kid. However, he is a bust as a B1G starting QB, and to be very honest, there aren't many FBS programs in which he would start. He has struggled with his accuracy since the day he stepped on campus and that has not changed and likely never will. He is a great athlete, I said two years ago they needed to move him to a position where he could display his talents for the next level and I stand by that same conclusion today.

 

[Jtung230]

Just Being better then Sit doesn’t mean you’re good

The OL is much better this year.
Years past QB couldn’t even finish a 5 step drop before he was hit.

You said better doesn’t mean good. That applies to the OL too.

 

[MulletCork]

He might be a great guy and I hope he’s a great student. All the praise to him. He’s just not a D1 QB unfortunately and it’s actually shocking how even a 10 yard pass is a major achievement. It’s unfortunate but wow it’s stunning. Coaches even alive?

 

[nutfromSEC117]

You want Apples to apples

If R o line was a QB The last few seasons it wouldn’t even be able to catch a shot gun snap.

OL is light years better.

QB 99% of time hands ball off , LB’s don’t even flinch and head straight to RB to make tackle.

Power run doesn’t count. If you are running this type of offense QB MUST keep it 5-8+ times a game. Even if he doesn’t gain much. It’s all about giving Kyle one on ones with LB not 2 LB vs Kyle.

Having said that Kyle still is a great RB with great stats. Imagine Kyle with just a once more space to work with !!!!

R current QB adds nothing to game. What do opponents fear ??

 

[Rokodesh]

I think he’s the worst starting QB that I can remember here. Over his head big time and a huge miss by Schiano.

Respectfully, you're out of your ******* mind. The kid has us bowl eligible for the first time in a ******* decade.

There's obvious room for improvement, but to throw him out as the worst after what we've had for 10 years is a joke

Simon or Ajani wouldn't be successful today either. No quarterback will succeed in a system that gives them one opportunity to throw the ball before punting. There is no creativity in this offense. Gavin could have done better, but I'm not going to nitpick play-by-play like the Princeton game on Monday. Let's hope for better coaching against Penn State next week.

Gavin didn't play great today but this board solely calling him out when the coaching was some of the worst of Schiano's career is what blows my mind.

 

[RUScrew85]

Too many of you think saying players just don’t have it means you are saying they are bad kids.

By all accounts Gavin is a great kid and will be a leader in life

He’s just not a good QB

If you're not a good football player I don't care about the "kid". They play for money now. I have no allegiance to them just like they have no allegiance to me or Rutgers. Cash your check. Hit the bench on your way out.

 

[Jtung230]

You want Apples to apples

If R o line was a QB The last few seasons it wouldn’t even be able to catch a shot gun snap.

OL is light years better.

QB 99% of time hands ball off , LB’s don’t even flinch and head straight to RB to make tackle.

Power run doesn’t count. If you are running this type of offense QB MUST keep it 5-8+ times a game. Even if he doesn’t gain much. It’s all about giving Kyle one on ones with LB not 2 LB vs Kyle.

Having said that Kyle still is a great RB with great stats. Imagine Kyle with just a once more space to work with !!!!

R current QB adds nothing to game. What do opponents fear ??

OL and running game didn’t feel like light years ahead today.

 

[brgRC90]

Our predictable offensive system puts QBs into a difficult situation. This won't change as long as Schiano is here.

 

[Mr. Magoo1]

Respectfully, you're out of your ****ing mind. The kid has us bowl eligible for the first time in a ****ing decade.

There's obvious room for improvement, but to throw him out as the worst after what we've had for 10 years is a joke

Simon or Ajani wouldn't be successful today either. No quarterback will succeed in a system that gives them one opportunity to throw the ball before punting. There is no creativity in this offense. Gavin could have done better, but I'm not going to nitpick play-by-play like the Princeton game on Monday. Let's hope for better coaching against Penn State next week.

Gavin didn't play great today but this board solely calling him out when the coaching was some of the worst of Schiano's career is what blows my mind.

He is terrible and the coaching was terrible today. Both are true

 

[Knight Shift]

Yeah he’s the worst ever, bring back real winners like Laviano and Sitkowski, who can forget the bowls they led us to

Huge swing and miss bringing up Laviano.
187/307 (61%), 2247 yards 16 TD/12 INT in 2015. Yeah, horrific performance. Not his fault Ash and his half-assed OC ruined his last season by putting some skinny kid in ahead of him.

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

Huge swing and miss bringing up Laviano.
187/307 (61%), 2247 yards 16 TD/12 INT in 2015. Yeah, horrific performance. Not his fault Ash and his half-assed OC ruined his last season by putting some skinny kid in ahead of him.

I must have missed the bowl we went to in 2015. Also we had one conference win, an extremely narrow one over IU...I guess we almost beat MSU...but the bad ending was on...Laviano...

 

[RuSnp]

I think he’s the worst starting QB that I can remember here. Over his head big time and a huge miss by Schiano.

Statistically Rescigno was worse. But I can't really find anybody else at these kinds of levels. Vedral as a senior was pretty bad, but his prior years were better than what we've seen from Gavin this year (and certainly last) sadly. Sitkowski set the (low) bar as a freshman but even he has better stats than Gavin. It's not even particularly close. As a sophomore and junior Sit was completing 64% of his passes (admittedly not many attempts and spot duty at times but the numbers are the numbers)

 

[Plum Street]

Corey Valentine
Ralph Sacca

There were some awful quarterbacks under Shea . For a supposed quarterback guru

 

[RuSnp]

Statistically Rescigno was worse. But I can't really find anybody else at these kinds of levels. Vedral as a senior was pretty bad, but his prior years were better than what we've seen from Gavin this year (and certainly last) sadly. Sitkowski set the (low) bar as a freshman but even he has better stats than Gavin. It's not even particularly close. As a sophomore and junior Sit was completing 64% of his passes (admittedly not many attempts and spot duty at times but the numbers are the numbers)

I thought of somebody worse stats-wise. Ryan Cubit. Frosh or Soph take your pick.

 

[e5fdny]

I’d take a Johnny Manziel.

Don’t recall him being considered a great guy?

That being said, Hayden Fry and his Iowa program didn’t become anything until he got his QB in Chuck Long.

Is Surace going to be that for 2.0? We’ll see.

 

[gef21]

I think he’s the worst starting QB that I can remember here. Over his head big time and a huge miss by Schiano.

Oof. I don't agree with that.

 

[RUschool]

I don’t want to be negative and I see some throws that are very good. However, the fans that argue he‘s only a RS sophomore and will improve are wrong. There are plenty of sophomores that are now starting and have 60% completion passing. They will all improve but Winsatt is behind all the other sophomores and will be behind when they are juniors And seniors.

From my experience, you know by the second year if they will make it. Schiano and OC knows this so they need to take action.

I don't think Simon is the answer but AJ Sheppard might be. The coaches saw enough of Simon to know what he’s capable of.

 

[newwavedave1]

Too many of you think saying players just don’t have it means you are saying they are bad kids.

By all accounts Gavin is a great kid and will be a leader in life

He’s just not a good QB

I don't think anybody is saying he's a bad kid. Stupid post.

 

[nutfromSEC117]

I don't think anybody is saying he's a bad kid. Stupid post.

I’m saying people get overly sensitive and attack OP’s for saying a player is not performing.

He’s young ,He plays hard , he’s better than ——, o line is the problem , wr are the problem , I know more football then you , you’re a troll , you’re in your moms basement.

Iowa , Washington was wide open right down middle and he wasn’t even close with the throw.

Blaming Dremel who was 15 yards in the clear vs Ohio state for GW horrible overthrow

Ohio st Jackson had his man beat on the first play and it was a poor throw. I’ll give you our WR have no clue how to draw a PI call on an under throw

Ohio st Throw to Strong in back of end zone was way too high and away , Scared of InT. Better throw strong had a better chance to complete catch.

Simple throws like the 20 yard gain to Benjamin vs Indiana. He was WIDE open 10 yards away and he almost over threw it making Benjamin jump/stumble costing a possible TD

He makes some great throws , he also misses a TON and gives away too many 6-10 yard gains by staying in pocket

He is not the Auburn /Carolina Cam Newton , he is the New England cam Newton. Big strong , not slow but lacks quick twitch to be a menace scrambling. Good arm when on target is Great but too many “where in the —— was that pass going. ??” Under 50% completion says it all.

6-6 with a work in progress all 4 years is not what I’m looking for, 8-4 or better was there for the taking



He strikes out the side in the first inning then gives up 4 runs in the second

He scores 16 points but gets out rebounded and his man scored 18,

He is a top scoring D-man but has a lousy +/-

 

[Kbee3]

I actually agree with this. I can't recall a worse qb ever and I've been here a long time

Do you recall Rutgers ever having a less impressive group of receivers ?

 

[NotInRHouse_anon]

Do you recall Rutgers ever having a less impressive group of receivers ?

People want to forget we had NFL caliber receivers every year of GS 1.O in the bowl era.

Underwood, Britt, Sanu, Harrison, Carroo. We don't even have a Tim Brown. But sure let's blame the QB.

Or wait no let's blame GS for not having one yet.