Not the year to be looking for a coach

Caliknight

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There has never been a time when this many big jobs were open, and the season is barely half over. There might be another 3 or so added before its done. Wish I was a coach. Market rate is about to pop.
 

MozRU

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1. Agreed

But


2. We are in different times. This will be the norm now. Schools who take football serious will not wait.

(We know where we stand)
 

SkilletHead2

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Can't remember a year when so many prominent coaches either resigned or were fired mid-year. It's the resignations that have me a bit puzzled. Things aren't going Spurrier's way, so he quits, or is there something else in this story (maybe personal or family issue?).?
 

ruman

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If we don't make a change, the same people will post this next year when we are 2-5
 
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brgossRU90

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Yes and no. We would not likely be competing with programs like USC or Miami--or UCF--for a coach so their situations kind of don't affect us.
 

Caliknight

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Agreed. The game has changed. So who do we have, I'm losing track.

Miami
USC
USC e
Maryland
Illinois

On deck, Uva, Auburn, Purdue, Oregon. Who am I missing?
 

Caliknight

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Yes and no. We would not likely be competing with programs like USC or Miami--or UCF--for a coach so their situations kind of don't affect us.

Of course they do when you look at who has openings and who will.
 

vkj91

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Meh. More than enough coaches out there at our price point. Plus we ain't interviewing the same guys as USC and most likely USc. We are a better job than UCF and on par with Miami and Maryland. We know Maryland says they will spend crazy money but let's see what happens there.
 

vkj91

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You really think Oregon will fire their coach a year removed from playing for the title? And Auburn 2 years removed from the same? They'll both get another year.
Oregon isn't doing anything until they see how Chip does next season.
 

RUschool

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I pretty sure Virginia and Purdue will fire their coach with 2 and 1 win each.i hope we don't get anyone retread except Spurrier.
 

rutgers4life11

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so you suggest we set our program back another full year?

a good AD can always find a coach. maybe the candidate doesn't come piping hot with hype, but sometimes that's a good thing.

likewise, you don't make a move this year and perhaps your best candidate who would actually consider RU is off the table in Schiano.
 
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Agreed. The game has changed. So who do we have, I'm losing track.

Miami
USC
USC e
Maryland
Illinois

On deck, Uva, Auburn, Purdue, Oregon. Who am I missing?
I don't think Auburn and Oregon are making any changes despite their struggles this year.

UVA for sure is possible and maybe Purdue as well. Indiana is another one too if Wilson doesn't make a bowl. Syracuse too. VT if Beamer retires but they may elevate Bud Foster.
 

vkj91

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I pretty sure Virginia and Purdue will fire their coach with 2 and 1 win each.i hope we don't get anyone retread except Spurrier.
Virginia for sure but think Hazel gets one more year. If we keep Flood I'd throw a good chunk of change and London for DC
 
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RUchip

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You really think Oregon will fire their coach a year removed from playing for the title? And Auburn 2 years removed from the same? They'll both get another year.
+1 No way Oregon or Malhzon at Auburn is gone. 100% safe this year
 

Knight Shift

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Jobs Available:
Miami
USC
USC e
Maryland
Illinois
U Va ?
Auburn?
Purdue?
Boston College?
Kansas State?

Available Coaches:
Bo Pelini
Justin Fuente
Rod Carey, NIU,
Dino Babers, Bowling Green
Matt Rhule, Temple
Tom Herman
Greg Schiano
Ed Orgeron
Robb Smith
Ken Niumatalolo
Lane Kiffin get another shot?
 
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saran

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There's new, young coaches making there marks out there. People here often tend to think of older, notorious retreads as the only options
 
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I've liked Herman for for a few years and Fuente was my top name this year. If there is so much competition and I have to reach further down into my pretend AD bag.

These aren't my favorite names as of now but they could have been given more time. If you have to make the hire now then after the two above I'd go with one of vkj91's faves in Dino Babers and Doug Meacham the TCU OC.

Meacham has done well with offenses where ever he has been in his career and he's done it with different qbs too. Babers has done well with different qbs at his two stops as HC as well. I would like to see it over more time from both of them but if you don't have a choice I'd guess those would be my next two choices after the top 2.

One thing though is absolutely imperative with both of them and any spread coach frankly. They must bring in a quality DC with them. Mind you, don't assume throwing money at the problem automatically solves it. Muschamp in his first year at Auburn hasn't improved their defense much and he got paid a ton. It may happen over time but it certainly didn't happen right away. Have to be fair and give him time though.

I wouldn't want Babers to bring his DC with him, I'd probably be open to someone from the TCU staff if Meacham wanted that considering Patterson's previous track record on defense. Whatever it is, it has to be someone who can create a mediocre defense. I like the spread but I also understand and accept that a weaker defense is a likely byproduct of using it.

I'm okay with a defense ranked in the top 50-65 area paired with around a top 15 offense. I think if you have that you're likely to land up in a good spot more times than not. It can't be a defense ranked in the 80+ range or eventually it'll catch up to you or you'll just end up being like Indiana. I don't need top 25 defense just give me mediocre with that top offense and I'm satisfied so that would absolute key for these spread coaches.
 
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RUBlackout

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Give me Tom Hermann as our coach. Already has a top 25 team in his first year and knows the OSU offense really well. I think he would do great in the B1G and would get recruits. Also would give us 2 Hermanns..haha
 

RU4

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You really think Oregon will fire their coach a year removed from playing for the title? And Auburn 2 years removed from the same? They'll both get another year.
Auburn fired Chizik the year after they won the National Championship
 

daneman100

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Give me Tom Hermann as our coach. Already has a top 25 team in his first year and knows the OSU offense really well. I think he would do great in the B1G and would get recruits. Also would give us 2 Hermanns..haha

That ship sailed last year, Houston buyout is out of our price range.
 

Caliknight

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You really think Oregon will fire their coach a year removed from playing for the title? And Auburn 2 years removed from the same? They'll both get another year.

Definitely possible. Neither of those schools mess around.
 

brookdale-soda

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Until we can get a competitive budget to hire middle of the pack assistants and coordinators corrected for cost of living, I don't think it makes sense to make the move. I'd like to see us hire a DC in the meantime that can run a top 20 defense.
 
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MikeR0102

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Can't remember a year when so many prominent coaches either resigned or were fired mid-year. It's the resignations that have me a bit puzzled. Things aren't going Spurrier's way, so he quits, or is there something else in this story (maybe personal or family issue?).?

He's old as dirt and doesn't like losing.
 
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MikeR0102

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Until we can get a competitive budget to hire middle of the pack assistants and coordinators corrected for cost of living, I don't think it makes sense to make the move. I'd like to see us hire a DC in the meantime that can run a top 20 defense.

Okay, call me in 10 years then.
 

RUJohnny99

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There has never been a time when this many big jobs were open, and the season is barely half over. There might be another 3 or so added before its done. Wish I was a coach. Market rate is about to pop.
Didn't half the Pac 12 fire their coaches a couple years ago when they got the huge tv contract? With Flood scheduled to get a raise to $1.6 mm next year, keeping him isn't exactly cheap anymore.
 

Scarlet_Scourge

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6 FBS openings is a little nuts.

I am worried that most of the people on our wish list will have new jobs and will be off the table.