Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

DerHntr

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Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

My top two reasons:

1. The financial gap between quality mid-major coaches and major schools just isn't that large any more (ie., Smart and Marshall)

2. Our current roster, recruits, and the culture of the program together may have looked like too much to overcome, especially if you are making a good living at a mid-major or you don't have head coaching experience yet (some of the other assistants at better programs that were rumored/mentioned).
 

DerHntr

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Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

My top two reasons:

1. The financial gap between quality mid-major coaches and major schools just isn't that large any more (ie., Smart and Marshall)

2. Our current roster, recruits, and the culture of the program together may have looked like too much to overcome, especially if you are making a good living at a mid-major or you don't have head coaching experience yet (some of the other assistants at better programs that were rumored/mentioned).
 

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PickleHead

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I'm not sold to the fact that everyone was turning us down. Bryce Drew's "taking my name out of contention" comment usually means you weren't gonna get the job.
 

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DerHntr said:
My top two reasons:

1. The financial gap between quality mid-major coaches and major schools just isn't that large any more (ie., Smart and Marshall)

2. Our current roster, recruits, and the culture of the program together may have looked like too much to overcome, especially if you are making a good living at a mid-major or you don't have head coaching experience yet (some of the other assistants at better programs that were rumored/mentioned).


Those points u mentioned plus I honestly feel like the negative scope in which our program was percived is another. Lazy, no heart, poor attitudes and POSSIBLE drug use (Deville, Sidney).
 

Maroon Eagle

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And there were really only two well regarded mid-major coaches with experience that were willing to move and Illinois and Nebraska got them (Groce has been discussed previously by others and I like the Cornhuskers' hire of the Colorado State coach, by the way). The others (Prohm and Drew) didn't have much of a track record to be comfortable hiring I think.
 

DerHntr

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I live out of state and I have been asked multiple times during the search how we would hire someone who would be willing to deal with our team's reputation.
 

shsdawg

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I think.
 

sardis

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The headlines read in other states about Ms. do have impact.
 
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Exactly, we don't. For all we know, we got exactly who Stricklin wanted.
 

ckDOG

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I doubt he was on the A list, but I'm pretty sure he wasn't on the F list like most want to believe...
 

GroveHard

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Rick Ray was Stricklin's first choice?
 

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DerHntr

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They weren't in the post season and hiring sooner would in theory help keep the team and recruits together.
 

whosyourdawgy

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Who turned us down? Who all we talked to? I personally have never even heard of Ray. But you know what? In this search it appears Scott found the man he was looking for and I'm excited to see what the man can do for us. He has his work cut out trying to get Josh back in the fold and working on Devonta. Should me an interesting next few days.
 

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I have no clue at all, and don't pretend to. Neither do you or Coach34. <div>
</div><div>At the end of the day, Calipari would be everyone's first choice, wouldn't he?</div>
 
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Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

Who knows. Who says there has to be a timetable on it. I personally didn't want to get rid of Stans unless there was a plan in place. Obviously Stricklin didn't agree with me. I'm guessing he also knows how to hire a basketball coach better than me too.
 

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GroveHard

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if you had a clue. We all know the answer to that question. Yes or no, do you believe that Ray was Stricklin's first choice? I'll ignore the irrelevant Ole Miss reference as I know you can't help yourself.
 

Daledog

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DerHntr said:
My top two reasons:

1. The financial gap between quality mid-major coaches and major schools just isn't that large any more (ie., Smart and Marshall)

2. Our current roster, recruits, and the culture of the program together may have looked like too much to overcome, especially if you are making a good living at a mid-major or you don't have head coaching experience yet (some of the other assistants at better programs that were rumored/mentioned).
Ummm I can name a few reasons:
1. It's Mississippi, the land of the poor, racist, uneducated and unhealthiest people in America.
2. It's Starkville, the land humidity, strip malls, and fast food restaurants
3. MSU is not a big name University
4. Our basketball program is a mediocre program
5. SEC is a mediocre conference
6. We have to recruit against a number of big universities within a 150 mile radius with a very slim population density within that area.
7. Our fans and their completely unrealistic expectations
8. Our fans wanting to fire every coach we have because we aren't a top 10 program
9. Our fans who spend all day on message boards bitching and making fun of 18 year old kids
10. Our fans who creepily take pictures of women's camel toes so they can post it on a website and let a bunch of lame perverted men drool over it.
There's more but I'll stop there.
 

Pointcitydawg

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Are we supposed to follow you outside after that rampage only to find you with your pants around your ankles show THE GOAT?? Great move man! You're a Legend!
 

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Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

Just because people don't know him doesn't mean we struck out a bunch before we hired him. Most of the most successful coaches in college basketball would have raised a few eyebrows at the time of their hiring. Most big-name hires, whether re-treads or hot-shot mid-majors, flop. That's just the way it is. A good AD does his work and picks the guy he thinks is right. A lazy AD hires the biggest name he can get. I don't know where Ray was on Stricklin's list, but it's obvious he was impressed by him. We could have had a bigger name.
 

BulldogBlitz

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those would be the top two reasons. past that, i'm scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for a reason, but I have maroon colored glasses so I see nothing wrong with living in "ville.
 

GroveHard

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I had no idea who Rick Ray was before yesterday. He may be the greatest coach of all time, but that has nothing to do with my question. With several posters attempting to talk people away from the ledge, I'm curious as to whether anybody believes Ray was Stricklin's first choice.
 

Shmuley

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No sane individual would believe that we waited until f'n April 1 to hire a "first choice" that was available WEEKS ago.

So, coming from a bear, it's not a legitimate question. At all.
 

Uncle Ruckus

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If you think that what people say on a message board affects a coaches decision...just wow.
 

tenureplan

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1 - your number 2

2 - Even though he isn't a hall of famer, Stans is our all time winningest coach. Tough act to follow.

3 - Unrealistic expectations from our fanbase
 

Daledog

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Now that the hire is finalized, what were the top reasons our job wasn't desirable?

Uncle Ruckus said:
If you think that what people say on a message board affects a coaches decision...just wow.
***Yes, I was being dead serious about a coach not wanting to come to Starkville because of camel toe pics.*** Come on man.
 

GroveHard

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who is hardly a sane individual. No need to get all cunty.
 

prairiedawg

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They all ***** constantly and have unrealistic expectations. And in spite of the SEC being mediocre, it still has SEC money which will appeal to many up and comers.