Official PSU - Indiana '25 game thread

NewEra 2026

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Hopefully BGJ will take the Inane Clown Posse with him to whatever ACC team he ends up coaching.

I’m really sick of seeing these knuckleheads dancing around with the game on the line. If the new coach can curb that nonsense, the new hire will be a win no matter the record.
 

94LionsFan

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Just bad situational awareness all around at the end:

2:09 left in the game, for for a first down. Incomplete pass or sack, you’re still getting to 2 min TO on the punt.
The play we ran at 2:09 was a play-action pass to Rappleyea out of a heavy set, which took the clock down to 2:00. I thought it was a decent call, Rappleyea just wasn’t able to shake the tackler. Unless you’re saying throw one past the sticks…
 

bdgan

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We actually went play action and threw the ball. Indiana did a good job at staying home and not selling out on the run.
1st down Allen run for 0 yds
2nd down Allen run for 1 yd

3rd down 2 yd lateral swing pass to Rapp

The time to throw was maybe on 1st and 10 but definitely on 2nd and 10 when IND completely sold out to stop the run.
 

Ludd

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During the season, Knowles D has failed to stop a team from quickly driving down the field when the game was on the line. His genius gameplan involves snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
He seriously should give half his salary back…he’s not coming close to doing what he’s paid to do.
 
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Moogy

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We actually went play action and threw the ball. Indiana did a good job at staying home and not selling out on the run.
Yeah, but that play action is more of a 1st or 2nd down play call. When you "need" a bunch of yards in one down, I'm letting Grunk set up in the pocket (where he was actually effective today) and giving him the whole field to choose from. More of a surprise factor throwing on 1st or 2nd in that situation, and, if you need to go to the short dump-off, or a QB run on that roll out (and keep the clock running), you're setting up a 2nd/3rd and short situation, where you have better options.
 
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SRURock24

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I feel a bit bad for Smith as well. With a lead late in the game, who do you lean on? AK to manage to get a first down or JK to prevent a go ahead TD?

I think it's a trick question
Nothing to lose. Should have been more aggressive on Offense instead of runn
1st down Allen run for 0 yds
2nd down Allen run for 1 yd

3rd down 2 yd lateral swing pass to Rapp

The time to throw was maybe on 1st and 10 but definitely on 2nd and 10 when IND completely sold out to stop the run.
Yep! Absolutely nothing to lose!
 
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94LionsFan

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Yeah, but that play action is more of a 1st or 2nd down play call. When you "need" a bunch of yards in one down, I'm letting Grunk set up in the pocket (where he was actually effective today) and giving him the whole field to choose from. More of a surprise factor throwing on 1st or 2nd in that situation, and, if you need to go to the short dump-off, or a QB run on that roll out (and keep the clock running), you're setting up a 2nd/3rd and short situation, where you have better options.
Speculation on my part… We came out in what looked like a jumbo package, so I think AK may have hoped IU would bite hard on the fake and Rappleyea would have had more open field in front of him.

I went into that drive thinking we’d have to throw if they expected us to run. But then we ran for 7, 1, and 4, to get a 1st down. I still would have passed on 1st or 2nd as you said, but it’s possible AK saw the success getting one 1st down all on the ground and thought we could stay on the ground…
 
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Weird we're going back to the first half
If anything, down 10 forced us to open things up which is why we played better. Not that the fumble was a positive but not in the top 5 reasons we lost. Up 24-20--the first half isn't really a factor with less than 2 minutes left.
As per usual when playing an opponent with a pulse, we only throw the ball downfield once we fall 2 scores behind.
 

84lion

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Let's not pretend today wasn't a classic Franklin way to blow a lead. Which is why the next coach can't have any ties to Franklin. Fresh start.
Almost hate to admit this, but was watching the end of the game and thinking, "if PSU pulls this one out, I can hear the cries of 'Terry Smith for HC'." And in some ways was relieved when Indiana made that TD for the win.
 

WaffleShopper

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I’m not watching that entire last drive again and subjecting myself to more pain but I did just watch the highlights. These were the PSU defensive plays in the highlights on that last drive:

- Rushed 4 and got a sack.
- Rushed 4 and got pressure, incomplete.
- Blitzed MLB and Indiana WR was well covered but still made an incredible catch on the sidelines.
- Rushed 4 and got instant pressure and batted down the pass.
- Safety blitz and got a good hit on Mendoza. Luckier bounce and game would have been over.
- All out blitz (rushed 7) and another incredible catch for a TD.

This loss isn’t on Knowles or the defense. That wasn’t prevent. Unlike the offense, they played aggressively most of the game and even though they were substantially outmanned they kept them in it and made plays.
 
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KingLando

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Almost hate to admit this, but was watching the end of the game and thinking, "if PSU pulls this one out, I can hear the cries of 'Terry Smith for HC'." And in some ways was relieved when Indiana made that TD for the win.
Same--wanted Terry to get the win but also want nothing to do with him being the next HC so at least we don't have to deal with that.
 
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bdgan

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Speculation on my part… We came out in what looked like a jumbo package, so I think AK may have hoped IU would bite hard on the fake and Rappleyea would have had more open field in front of him.

I went into that drive thinking we’d have to throw if they expected us to run. But then we ran for 7, 1, and 4, to get a 1st down. I still would have passed on 1st or 2nd as you said, but it’s possible AK saw the success getting one 1st down all on the ground and thought we could stay on the ground…
2nd and 10
3rd and 9

The ball wasn't thrown past the LOS.
 
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I really don't think the main issue with Penn State this season has been the offense. Play-calling has led to less than optimal results at times. But I put most of the losses on the defense and it's inability to make stops when the game is on the line.

The Penn State offense didn't look great against Ohio State, but what offense has ? The Ohio State defense is basically NFL-lite and the talent is generational.

Of course, Penn State could have won with more scoring, but that is always true in any loss. The main symptom of all the losses outside OSU has been the inability of the Defense to perform in critical situations. You aren't going to win many close games if you let an offense march down the field unopposed with a minute or two left. This happened in one form or another with Oregon, UCLA, NW, and Indiana. All that was needed to win these games was to not let the opposing offense run wild in the closing minutes.
 
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Calabrin

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1st down Allen run for 0 yds
2nd down Allen run for 1 yd

3rd down 2 yd lateral swing pass to Rapp

The time to throw was maybe on 1st and 10 but definitely on 2nd and 10 when IND completely sold out to stop the run.
It's almost like Indiana expected Kotelnicki to be a total coward late in the 4th quarter.

Hm. I wonder why.
 

Tor_Eckman

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IU moved the ball easily that last drive with a 4 man rush that didn't get any pressure.
I think the drive took 74-75 seconds. There was 1:51 remaining following the PS punt. PS started their final drive with 36 seconds on the clock. Not sure if anytime ran off during KO.
 

BCS PSU

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Same--wanted Terry to get the win but also want nothing to do with him being the next HC so at least we don't have to deal with that.
That never was going to happen anyway, and I think that we all know that. Historically, the hiring of a temporary coach based on some phyrhic successes very seldom ages well.
 

WaffleShopper

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I really don't think the main issue with Penn State this season has been the offense. Play-calling has led to less than optimal results at times. But I put most of the losses on the defense and it's inability to make stops when the game is on the line.

The Penn State offense didn't look great against Ohio State, but what offense has ? The Ohio State defense is basically NFL-lite and the talent is generational.

Of course, Penn State could have won with more scoring, but that is always true in any loss. The main symptom of all the losses outside OSU has been the inability of the Defense to perform in critical situations.
So what would you have our defense do against OSU’s NFL offense? OSU’s and Indiana’s offensive players are far better than our defensive players. We just held their top 2 offense way below their averages in yards and points and lost on incredible catches and a miracle TD. They scored 63 on Illinois and 30 on Oregon.

Not sure what people expected but I was pleasantly surprised with our defense. We lost because our offense was scared of throwing the ball past the line of scrimmage when all they had to do was get a first down.
 

Calabrin

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I really don't think the main issue with Penn State this season has been the offense. Play-calling has led to less than optimal results at times. But I put most of the losses on the defense and it's inability to make stops when the game is on the line.

The Penn State offense didn't look great against Ohio State, but what offense has ? The Ohio State defense is basically NFL-lite and the talent is generational.

Of course, Penn State could have won with more scoring, but that is always true in any loss. The main symptom of all the losses outside OSU has been the inability of the Defense to perform in critical situations. You aren't going to win many close games if you let an offense march down the field unopposed with a minute or two left.
It depends on the game. Ohio State and UCLA were definitely defensive collapses, but at least against Ohio State, it's understandable; they're legitimately good.

The problems on offense have been far more consistent throughout the season, though. Kotelnicki has had zero games where he hasn't managed slam the offense into a brick wall with ridiculous play calls. Many of us were sounding the alarm during our weak OOC schedule where it was evident the play calling was poor, and that AK wasn't using the proper personnel.
 

KingLando

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That never was going to happen anyway, and I think that we all know that. Historically, the hiring of a temporary coach based on some phyrhic successes very seldom ages well.
Doesn't mean we wouldn't have heard about "Terry should be the next coach" for weeks