Charmin/Franklin soft,I'm counting the Oregon game as a tie since it went into OT.
PSU's 5 losses (not counting OSU) have been by a total of 10 pts. Has there ever been a worse team in the clutch?
Charmin/Franklin soft,I'm counting the Oregon game as a tie since it went into OT.
PSU's 5 losses (not counting OSU) have been by a total of 10 pts. Has there ever been a worse team in the clutch?
We are not, obviously - to quote the Great James Franklin - even a good team.We’ve been snakebite but I think Indiana won it more than we lost it. Did you watch the end of the Oregon-Iowa game? Great teams just win those kinds of games and unfortunately we’re not a great team. You’d think we’d get one of them though.
This!Well its exactly what has embodied every problem the program has had for a long time. The players have no mental toughness or discipline to know GAME SITUATION. Its a reflection of the culture BGJ allowed. Look at me is more important than doing your job. Probably could be applied io BGJ in a lot of ways. or its it just me and the "act like you have been there before" approach I have always appreciated under Joe is no longer valued?
We had absolutely nothing to lose…still could not muster the courage. Pathetic.Agreed. Terry has been talking about throwing behind the linebackers. That was the time to do it. Indiana was in zero coverage and was totally selling out against the run. We should have tried to punish them for that at least once on that series.
Typical of Franklin coached teams…does this really surprise us after 11 + years?I couldn't believe the selfishness and stupidity of Durant after that play. He's had a terrible year and he makes a sack and suddenly he thinks he's on Soul Train. And he didn't get lined up in time for the next play. Mind boggling.
Terry never played that way. This has been institutionalized by Franklin.You nailed it. And those last two things are interrelated. Players take on the personality of their coaches.
I agree...Terry was a rough as nails receiver, never afraid to go across the middle for one of Tony Sacca s many wild passes...Terry never played that way. This has been institutionalized by Franklin.
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One of my biggest issues with CJF and his multiple staffs is the trust factor. They don't trust their players to make the critical play in crunch time. Adversely, the players didn’t trust or buy in to the coaches putting them in the best position to win during crunch time, on offense and defense. Case in point would be the OSU game in 2018, when Trace M was basically winning the game single handedly. Why wasn't the ball in his hands on 4th down instead of Sanders? Against UCLA they didn't trust his hand picked, high $ qb to throw before half. Today with Grunk, not trusting him to throw to seal the game. The D is just another story. Just my 2 cents.I'm late to the thread and apologize if I'm repeating someone else's thoughts. This is and has been my problem with Kotelnicki. The clock would stop after the3rd down play because of the 2 minute warning. Indiana was out of timeouts. An incompletion means nothing. Ten yards and the game is over. No matter how conservative and unimaginative the first and second down calls were, 10 yards and it's over. So, what does he call? A 3-yard pass to the slowest eligible receiver on the field. He refuses to throw a 10-yard pass when the team needs a 10-yard gain. That area of the field that Indiana exploited with 87 yards to go and no timeouts is a spot that Kotelnicki absolutely refuses to attack. Seams do not exist in the PSU offense.
It would be like if an Indiana receiver catches a pass in the middle of the field during the final drive. While the ref spots the ball and the chains are reset, the receiver gives the “first down” sign and jumps around like an idiot.Well its exactly what has embodied every problem the program has had for a long time. The players have no mental toughness or discipline to know GAME SITUATION. Its a reflection of the culture BGJ allowed. Look at me is more important than doing your job. Probably could be applied io BGJ in a lot of ways. or its it just me and the "act like you have been there before" approach I have always appreciated under Joe is no longer valued?
In the Indiana pylon game, our RB could have sealed the game by sliding down before the end zone. I see smart teams do this all the time. Not BGJ’s Penn State, though. His players gotta get that TD.I’m not sure how you teach mental toughness. I’m not just talking about Ohio State overcoming double digit leads to beat Penn State, there are a ton of lesser ranked teams that won late ( Iowa walk off field goal, Indiana infamous pylon game, and more than a statistically appropriate share of late losses).
I’m sure I am just forgetting but absent the Trace Iowa walkoff, when did the Nits last manufacture a come from behind late score.
A piece of it has to be lack of laser focus and lack of mental toughness. BOB had the Ficken walk off, a Barkley walkoff, and a Belton late score against Michigan.
What Franklin teams won late other than the Trace Iowa walk off. Was there ever a walk off FG?
Quite a few of us have been pointing this out since he got here: he refuses to engage with the proven modern concept of offensive football: throw first to setup the run.I'm late to the thread and apologize if I'm repeating someone else's thoughts. This is and has been my problem with Kotelnicki. The clock would stop after the3rd down play because of the 2 minute warning. Indiana was out of timeouts. An incompletion means nothing. Ten yards and the game is over. No matter how conservative and unimaginative the first and second down calls were, 10 yards and it's over. So, what does he call? A 3-yard pass to the slowest eligible receiver on the field. He refuses to throw a 10-yard pass when the team needs a 10-yard gain. That area of the field that Indiana exploited with 87 yards to go and no timeouts is a spot that Kotelnicki absolutely refuses to attack. Seams do not exist in the PSU offense.
Indiana knew what plays were coming yesterday on 10 percent of the snaps, you could tell- blowing up the play in the back field, tackles for loss etc. Good scouting and coaching.Quite a few of us have been pointing this out since he got here: he refuses to engage with the proven modern concept of offensive football: throw first to setup the run.
His schemes are designed almost exclusively around RPO, and the passing routes are quick outs to the sidelines, often at or even behind the line of scrimmage.
Opposing defenses know that Penn State doesn't throw over the middle of the field, and they know that they don't throw mid or deep routes. That's why they stack the line of scrimmage and play man-coverage.
You see what happened today: when we started using an aggressive passing attack, we erased a 13-point deficit and took the lead. Then Kotelnicki, like a pouting child, refused to acknowledge what was working, and went back to his ultra-conservative garbage, and we lost.
:36 ticks on the clock, we got Reynolds running a short out-route for a 5-yard pickup. Next down we have Singleton take a toss that actually went backwards, and should have kept the clock running, but the refs blew the call.
At no point did they try to get a meaningful amount of yardage that would move them into field goal range. That's what's frustrating: not that they lost, but that the play-calling didn't even give them a chance.
You mean like that throw behind the line of scrimmage with 2:02 left on 3rd and 10 where a first down would have ended the game?Quite a few of us have been pointing this out since he got here: he refuses to engage with the proven modern concept of offensive football: throw first to setup the run.
His schemes are designed almost exclusively around RPO, and the passing routes are quick outs to the sidelines, often at or even behind the line of scrimmage.
Opposing defenses know that Penn State doesn't throw over the middle of the field, and they know that they don't throw mid or deep routes. That's why they stack the line of scrimmage and play man-coverage.
You see what happened today: when we started using an aggressive passing attack, we erased a 13-point deficit and took the lead. Then Kotelnicki, like a pouting child, refused to acknowledge what was working, and went back to his ultra-conservative garbage, and we lost.
:36 ticks on the clock, we got Reynolds running a short out-route for a 5-yard pickup. Next down we have Singleton take a toss that actually went backwards, and should have kept the clock running, but the refs blew the call.
At no point did they try to get a meaningful amount of yardage that would move them into field goal range. That's what's frustrating: not that they lost, but that the play-calling didn't even give them a chance.
That is what drives me insane with AK. He seems to out think himself. He calls a play and it works, but doesn't call it again figuring they will have adjusted to it. He needs to keep calling it and force them to stop it.Quite a few of us have been pointing this out since he got here: he refuses to engage with the proven modern concept of offensive football: throw first to setup the run.
His schemes are designed almost exclusively around RPO, and the passing routes are quick outs to the sidelines, often at or even behind the line of scrimmage.
Opposing defenses know that Penn State doesn't throw over the middle of the field, and they know that they don't throw mid or deep routes. That's why they stack the line of scrimmage and play man-coverage.
You see what happened today: when we started using an aggressive passing attack, we erased a 13-point deficit and took the lead. Then Kotelnicki, like a pouting child, refused to acknowledge what was working, and went back to his ultra-conservative garbage, and we lost.
:36 ticks on the clock, we got Reynolds running a short out-route for a 5-yard pickup. Next down we have Singleton take a toss that actually went backwards, and should have kept the clock running, but the refs blew the call.
At no point did they try to get a meaningful amount of yardage that would move them into field goal range. That's what's frustrating: not that they lost, but that the play-calling didn't even give them a chance.
Jack Ham was begging him to throw the ball over the middle… just a short pass over the middle because IU had 10 in the box… easy first down, PSU wins! AK sucks!You mean like that throw behind the line of scrimmage with 2:02 left on 3rd and 10 where a first down would have ended the game?
Also what does PSU have to lose at this point... Throw the ball. The offense has momentum, Grunk had been successful throwing the ball over the middle. Once again AK out thinks himself. I will be so happy when both coordinators and this coaching staff is gone.Jack Ham was begging him to throw the ball over the middle… just a short pass over the middle because IU had 10 in the box… easy first down, PSU wins! AK sucks!
I have been finished with him since OSU last year. First and goal on the 3… 4 plays and Tyler Warren never sees the ball. To this day I still can’t believe it…Also what does PSU have to lose at this point... Throw the ball. The offense has momentum, Grunk had been successful throwing the ball over the middle. Once again AK out thinks himself. I will be so happy when both coordinators and this coaching staff is gone.
For future reference, the protocol here is to read all 759 previous posts before posting.I'm late to the thread and apologize if I'm repeating someone else's thoughts. This is and has been my problem with Kotelnicki. The clock would stop after the3rd down play because of the 2 minute warning. Indiana was out of timeouts. An incompletion means nothing. Ten yards and the game is over. No matter how conservative and unimaginative the first and second down calls were, 10 yards and it's over. So, what does he call? A 3-yard pass to the slowest eligible receiver on the field. He refuses to throw a 10-yard pass when the team needs a 10-yard gain. That area of the field that Indiana exploited with 87 yards to go and no timeouts is a spot that Kotelnicki absolutely refuses to attack. Seams do not exist in the PSU offense.
That’s just it: we ARE a good team. That’s what makes this all even that much more frustrating!We are not, obviously - to quote the Great James Franklin - even a good team.
Pena just makes a great hands catch for a nice gain, not on the field for the next play. Feed these guys- go to your hot hand.That is what drives me insane with AK. He seems to out think himself. He calls a play and it works, but doesn't call it again figuring they will have adjusted to it. He needs to keep calling it and force them to stop it.
Exactly ... It's as if he has a successful play he draws a line through it thinking I can't call that play again they will be ready for it ....Pena just makes a great hands catch for a nice gain, not on the field for the next play. Feed these guys- go to your hot hand.
It's crazy. PSU has the ball and control of the game. Why give them the ball back and let them control the outcome? Go down swinging you have nothing to lose at this point in the season. This staff is so frustrating to watch. From schemes and play calling to time management it's brutal. Thankfully we only have to watch them a few more gamesI have been finished with him since OSU last year. First and goal on the 3… 4 plays and Tyler Warren never sees the ball. To this day I still can’t believe it…
I looked and looked all game but did not see Franklin anywhere on the sideline making decisions…I must have missed him.Typical of Franklin coached teams…does this really surprise us after 11 + years?
He was told to slide, but he remembered too late…should Franklin have had it tattooed on the RB’s hands? You can tell players something a million times and they sometimes forget in crunch time…it happens and if you don’t think it does, you’ve obviously never coached before.In the Indiana pylon game, our RB could have sealed the game by sliding down before the end zone. I see smart teams do this all the time. Not BGJ’s Penn State, though. His players gotta get that TD.