Official PSU - Indiana '25 game thread

MacNit

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We’ve been snakebite but I think Indiana won it more than we lost it. Did you watch the end of the Oregon-Iowa game? Great teams just win those kinds of games and unfortunately we’re not a great team. You’d think we’d get one of them though.
We are not, obviously - to quote the Great James Franklin - even a good team.
 

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Well its exactly what has embodied every problem the program has had for a long time. The players have no mental toughness or discipline to know GAME SITUATION. Its a reflection of the culture BGJ allowed. Look at me is more important than doing your job. Probably could be applied io BGJ in a lot of ways. or its it just me and the "act like you have been there before" approach I have always appreciated under Joe is no longer valued?
This!
 

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Agreed. Terry has been talking about throwing behind the linebackers. That was the time to do it. Indiana was in zero coverage and was totally selling out against the run. We should have tried to punish them for that at least once on that series.
We had absolutely nothing to lose…still could not muster the courage. Pathetic.
 
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MacNit

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I couldn't believe the selfishness and stupidity of Durant after that play. He's had a terrible year and he makes a sack and suddenly he thinks he's on Soul Train. And he didn't get lined up in time for the next play. Mind boggling.
Typical of Franklin coached teams…does this really surprise us after 11 + years?
 
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I'm late to the thread and apologize if I'm repeating someone else's thoughts. This is and has been my problem with Kotelnicki. The clock would stop after the3rd down play because of the 2 minute warning. Indiana was out of timeouts. An incompletion means nothing. Ten yards and the game is over. No matter how conservative and unimaginative the first and second down calls were, 10 yards and it's over. So, what does he call? A 3-yard pass to the slowest eligible receiver on the field. He refuses to throw a 10-yard pass when the team needs a 10-yard gain. That area of the field that Indiana exploited with 87 yards to go and no timeouts is a spot that Kotelnicki absolutely refuses to attack. Seams do not exist in the PSU offense.
One of my biggest issues with CJF and his multiple staffs is the trust factor. They don't trust their players to make the critical play in crunch time. Adversely, the players didn’t trust or buy in to the coaches putting them in the best position to win during crunch time, on offense and defense. Case in point would be the OSU game in 2018, when Trace M was basically winning the game single handedly. Why wasn't the ball in his hands on 4th down instead of Sanders? Against UCLA they didn't trust his hand picked, high $ qb to throw before half. Today with Grunk, not trusting him to throw to seal the game. The D is just another story. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Well its exactly what has embodied every problem the program has had for a long time. The players have no mental toughness or discipline to know GAME SITUATION. Its a reflection of the culture BGJ allowed. Look at me is more important than doing your job. Probably could be applied io BGJ in a lot of ways. or its it just me and the "act like you have been there before" approach I have always appreciated under Joe is no longer valued?
It would be like if an Indiana receiver catches a pass in the middle of the field during the final drive. While the ref spots the ball and the chains are reset, the receiver gives the “first down” sign and jumps around like an idiot.

This nonsense almost never happens on offense during a critical game situation. I’m not sure why players on defense are such clowns.
 
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I’m not sure how you teach mental toughness. I’m not just talking about Ohio State overcoming double digit leads to beat Penn State, there are a ton of lesser ranked teams that won late ( Iowa walk off field goal, Indiana infamous pylon game, and more than a statistically appropriate share of late losses).

I’m sure I am just forgetting but absent the Trace Iowa walkoff, when did the Nits last manufacture a come from behind late score.

A piece of it has to be lack of laser focus and lack of mental toughness. BOB had the Ficken walk off, a Barkley walkoff, and a Belton late score against Michigan.

What Franklin teams won late other than the Trace Iowa walk off. Was there ever a walk off FG?
In the Indiana pylon game, our RB could have sealed the game by sliding down before the end zone. I see smart teams do this all the time. Not BGJ’s Penn State, though. His players gotta get that TD.
 

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I'm late to the thread and apologize if I'm repeating someone else's thoughts. This is and has been my problem with Kotelnicki. The clock would stop after the3rd down play because of the 2 minute warning. Indiana was out of timeouts. An incompletion means nothing. Ten yards and the game is over. No matter how conservative and unimaginative the first and second down calls were, 10 yards and it's over. So, what does he call? A 3-yard pass to the slowest eligible receiver on the field. He refuses to throw a 10-yard pass when the team needs a 10-yard gain. That area of the field that Indiana exploited with 87 yards to go and no timeouts is a spot that Kotelnicki absolutely refuses to attack. Seams do not exist in the PSU offense.
Quite a few of us have been pointing this out since he got here: he refuses to engage with the proven modern concept of offensive football: throw first to setup the run.

His schemes are designed almost exclusively around RPO, and the passing routes are quick outs to the sidelines, often at or even behind the line of scrimmage.

Opposing defenses know that Penn State doesn't throw over the middle of the field, and they know that they don't throw mid or deep routes. That's why they stack the line of scrimmage and play man-coverage.

You see what happened today: when we started using an aggressive passing attack, we erased a 13-point deficit and took the lead. Then Kotelnicki, like a pouting child, refused to acknowledge what was working, and went back to his ultra-conservative garbage, and we lost.

:36 ticks on the clock, we got Reynolds running a short out-route for a 5-yard pickup. Next down we have Singleton take a toss that actually went backwards, and should have kept the clock running, but the refs blew the call.

At no point did they try to get a meaningful amount of yardage that would move them into field goal range. That's what's frustrating: not that they lost, but that the play-calling didn't even give them a chance.
 
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