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His first full recruiting class just signed this February
What does that have to do with what you said?

what are you talking about? There isn't a single player that is a Mike Riley recruit that has taken a snap in a real game yet....
He absolutely recruited and signed guys in his first class that were not recruited by the previous regime, and some of them have absolutely played.
 

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What does that have to do with what you said?


He absolutely recruited and signed guys in his first class that were not recruited by the previous regime, and some of them have absolutely played.
Excuse me. I forgot about devine's 38 carries and the handful of games Williams and Reed played outside of special teams.
 
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I'll take 1 or 2 JUCO's and 1 or 2 HS DT's. Need 3 or 4 IMHO.
Staff scouting the JUCO ranks for a DL eligible in 2016
Don't be surprised if we bring a kid in like we did SJB for the summer to be eligible in 2016. The trick is you have to find a kid that was eligible out of high school for NCAA that either redshirted at his JUCO no one knew about (like SJB) or you can find a one year guy.

They also are looking for a couple guys that may have got overlooked whether that's a JUCO guy that was 50/50 to graduate or a high school kid that was in the same boat for being eligible. Losing two seniors you were expecting to have can make you a little nervous.

The good news is guys like Newell and Natter who I personally had written off have really changed their bodies and could help us. From shortsideoption
 
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Huskers are a couple injuries away from fielding a 2-5 defensive alignment. Everyone is always complaining that all the innovation is happening on offense. Who knows it just might work.

But seriously, I hope the staff finds a couple B10 worthy DTs this summer otherwise you're going to see some serious ***-dragging on the D front line late in games this season.
 

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setting up to be a year where we just get through it and the hope that is the next recruiting class will lead us to better days
 

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Parella is the man I dont think anyone is saying different at this point....Although it doesnt take much to improve over Hank

JP may very well be a great addition but we have no way of knowing ... this is his first real gig

If you take "former defensive tackle at the University of Nebraska" off JP's coaching resume people on here would be absolutely losing their minds if a starting def lineman who was going to be counted on heavily next year left after spring practice. I am not saying this is on JP - but again if our def line coach had not been a former Husker people would be howling
 

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JP may very well be a great addition but we have no way of knowing ... this is his first real gig

If you take "former defensive tackle at the University of Nebraska" off JP's coaching resume people on here would be absolutely losing their minds if a starting def lineman who was going to be counted on heavily next year left after spring practice. I am not saying this is on JP - but again if our def line coach had not been a former Husker people would be howling

Other coaches succeed with the previous regime's players. It happens all the time. It can and should happen here, especially in year two.

I don't think you can arm the glue sniffers with more excuses. The current coaching staff has been in charge long enough that this season's results are on them alone.

You know what isn't being discussed...
A few mods and people in the know really thought McMullen was coming back. And Riley even acted like he was coming back. Almost like Greg McMullen literally lied right to Riley and sold him on something he had no intention of honoring. I saw it coming a mile away and just chalked it up to Riley helping an unhappy McMullen. But what I've seen and heard since Saturday's announcement has been almost utter shock from the insiders and a call to arms. I think people finally understand how low the anti Riley crowd will go to cut him off at the knees. And now to these hero underclassmen. They are Husker Heroes in my book. They kept their word to Husker Nation and literally stand between Riley and people who want his head. Unbelievable!
 

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JP may very well be a great addition but we have no way of knowing ... this is his first real gig

If you take "former defensive tackle at the University of Nebraska" off JP's coaching resume people on here would be absolutely losing their minds if a starting def lineman who was going to be counted on heavily next year left after spring practice. I am not saying this is on JP - but again if our def line coach had not been a former Husker people would be howling
You should have said FORMER starting defensive lineman. IMO, neither Williams or McMullen were going to be starters next fall. Maurice and Davis were going to be starting inside with McMullen, Williams etal backing them up. This hurts our depth badly but is not that big of a blow to our 2 deep. Our 2 deep will be fine. The issue is what happens if we lose one of our top 4 inside guys. JP's resume still looks awfully damned good IF you take off former Blackshirt. Just substitute any other school's name and look at the accomplishments. He's a position coach not a coordinator.
 
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You know what isn't being discussed...
A few mods and people in the know really thought McMullen was coming back. And Riley even acted like he was coming back. Almost like Greg McMullen literally lied right to Riley and sold him on something he had no intention of honoring. I saw it coming a mile away and just chalked it up to Riley helping an unhappy McMullen. But what I've seen and heard since Saturday's announcement has been almost utter shock from the insiders and a call to arms. I think people finally understand how low the anti Riley crowd will go to cut him off at the knees. And now to these hero underclassmen. They are Husker Heroes in my book. They kept their word to Husker Nation and literally stand between Riley and people who want his head. Unbelievable!

Wait, McMullen did this a an elaborate scheme to screw over Riley? Was he stroking his mustache in the tower of his castle?
 

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Wait, McMullen did this a an elaborate scheme to screw over Riley? Was he stroking his mustache in the tower of his castle?
 

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Did you also forget Dedrick Young? He set a Nebraska record for most tackles by a true freshman.
Supposedly even though Bray was recruiting Young to OSU, he had already committed to Pelini's staff and NU. The good news was that he was excited when he heard that Bray and Riley were hired because he really liked Bray but didn't want to play at OSU.
 

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You know what isn't being discussed...
A few mods and people in the know really thought McMullen was coming back. And Riley even acted like he was coming back. Almost like Greg McMullen literally lied right to Riley and sold him on something he had no intention of honoring. I saw it coming a mile away and just chalked it up to Riley helping an unhappy McMullen. But what I've seen and heard since Saturday's announcement has been almost utter shock from the insiders and a call to arms. I think people finally understand how low the anti Riley crowd will go to cut him off at the knees. And now to these hero underclassmen. They are Husker Heroes in my book. They kept their word to Husker Nation and literally stand between Riley and people who want his head. Unbelievable!

I remember some people saying let's just let this play out before we consider McMullen gone. Did McMullen literally lie right to Riley? Really, you're gonna say something like that?

If you go and look at the associated press release from 04/09/16 it actually gives a clue as to the likely scenario (see a copy of the press release below). Why would Riley need to speak with McMullen in the coming week to get an update on his status? If McMullen told Riley he was just skipping spring ball and would be back in the fall, Riley would already know his status and there would be no reason to check back. My opinion: McMullen said he was done, Riley was giving McMullen a chance to change his mind before a formal announcement. I still think it's good to let things play out before jumping conclusions, but in this case, some peoples' conclusions were correct.

  • "Associated Press
LINCOLN, Neb. -- Nebraska defensive lineman Greg McMullen is taking a leave of absence from spring practice.

Coach Mike Riley said Saturday that McMullen is out indefinitely to address matters related to graduating this spring and getting into grad school.

McMullen will be entering his fifth season in the program this fall. He started all 26 games the past two seasons. He has been working at tackle this spring, after playing mostly defensive end.

Riley said he planned to speak with McMullen in the coming week to get an update on his status. The team's spring game is next Saturday."
 

rez dog 70

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I remember some people saying let's just let this play out before we consider McMullen gone. Did McMullen literally lie right to Riley? Really, you're gonna say something like that?

If you go and look at the associated press release from 04/09/16 it actually gives a clue as to the likely scenario (see a copy of the press release below). Why would Riley need to speak with McMullen in the coming week to get an update on his status? If McMullen told Riley he was just skipping spring ball and would be back in the fall, Riley would already know his status and there would be no reason to check back. My opinion: McMullen said he was done, Riley was giving McMullen a chance to change his mind before a formal announcement. I still think it's good to let things play out before jumping conclusions, but in this case, some peoples' conclusions were correct.

  • "Associated Press
LINCOLN, Neb. -- Nebraska defensive lineman Greg McMullen is taking a leave of absence from spring practice.

Coach Mike Riley said Saturday that McMullen is out indefinitely to address matters related to graduating this spring and getting into grad school.

McMullen will be entering his fifth season in the program this fall. He started all 26 games the past two seasons. He has been working at tackle this spring, after playing mostly defensive end.

Riley said he planned to speak with McMullen in the coming week to get an update on his status. The team's spring game is next Saturday."
I stand by what I said.
 

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Anyone? Is the JUCO DT they are recruiting going to play this coming fall, or in 2017?
 

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Anyone? Is the JUCO DT they are recruiting going to play this coming fall, or in 2017?
2017. It's been stated that NU is looking for some JUCOs or 5th year transfers to come in to help out on the DL, but I figure that's due-diligence. It will be very difficult to find anyone like that who could actually contribute. However, the coaches are paid big bucks to they'd better at least look.

But that one JUCO that came in, he's a 2017 guy. Perhaps a December grad. He's also coming off of an injury himself so it's not even a sure thing he'll be playing in 2016 anyway. I think he had knee surgery. I really have no idea if he's gonna be ready to play this year for his JUCO team.
 

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This conspiracy stuff on this is silly and counter productive imo. Banker needs to step up his game - from Hughes to losing Valentine and now losing these two guys and knowing nothing about it - This is a failure on his part
 

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Did you also forget Dedrick Young? He set a Nebraska record for most tackles by a true freshman.
He was being recruited long before riley

Regardless, the belief that Riley, or any coach for that matter should be able to turn over a roster in 1.25 recruiting classes is ridiculous.
 

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2017. It's been stated that NU is looking for some JUCOs or 5th year transfers to come in to help out on the DL, but I figure that's due-diligence. It will be very difficult to find anyone like that who could actually contribute. However, the coaches are paid big bucks to they'd better at least look.

But that one JUCO that came in, he's a 2017 guy. Perhaps a December grad. He's also coming off of an injury himself so it's not even a sure thing he'll be playing in 2016 anyway. I think he had knee surgery. I really have no idea if he's gonna be ready to play this year for his JUCO team.
So that's pretty much a non-solution to the problem of this year. They definitely need some JUCO DL, I'm not saying don't get him, but there's no way to spin this year that they're not just young and thin on that DL.
 

rez dog 70

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This conspiracy stuff on this is silly and counter productive imo. Banker needs to step up his game - from Hughes to losing Valentine and now losing these two guys and knowing nothing about it - This is a failure on his part
Banker and Riley better get up to speed with this term fast...
 
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This conspiracy stuff on this is silly and counter productive imo. Banker needs to step up his game - from Hughes to losing Valentine and now losing these two guys and knowing nothing about it - This is a failure on his part
One would think their position coach (who supposedly gets what Nebraska is all about) would communicate. If you actually believe Banker had no clue, I would start with the "real Husker" down the totem pole.
 

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He was being recruited long before riley

Regardless, the belief that Riley, or any coach for that matter should be able to turn over a roster in 1.25 recruiting classes is ridiculous.

So what? Young committed after Riley was hired, so any silent commit talk is just speculation. I agree, very hard to turn the roster over in 1.25 classes. Riley and his staff have identified solid under the radar talent, Reed playing as a true freshman is a testament to that. That is a good thing. I am happy with Riley but am not sold on him yet, game management at times last year was blundersome. I was just doubting the veracity of the statement not one of Riley's guys has played. I actually think we are in agreement, sort of.
 

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Thanks, reading that cleared up the conspiracy
Sam can't jump in with both feet but I sure in the hell can. He threw in the Bo stuff to equal out the comments but in reality he didn't need to. There's been some pretty shady stuff going on and maybe hopefully this will be the end of it.
 

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Sam can't jump in with both feet but I sure in the hell can. He threw in the Bo stuff to equal out the comments but in reality he didn't need to. There's been some pretty shady stuff going on and maybe hopefully this will be the end of it.
Honestly, I am just happy to know that there is still shady stuff going on that will cost the team ____ games this year.
 

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At the risk of promoting more of what I do not really like to see on the board, do the Dline departure signal the end of last psn group that was iffy on buy-in to the new staff?
 

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Backers seem to love their coach, as well as the wideouts. Cav has control of the Oline. Don't hear much from the others.
 

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One would think their position coach (who supposedly gets what Nebraska is all about) would communicate. If you actually believe Banker had no clue, I would start with the "real Husker" down the totem pole.

But that doesn't fit Snomish's narrative.
 

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But that doesn't fit Snomish's narrative.
The position coach has been here what a month? two months? you guys are more than ready to throw him under the bus but not the DC who is charge and has been in charge while our DL is thinning out

I just note what I see - you guys choose to bury your heads that is your choice. Bankers defense relies on strong DT play, this position just got very questionable and he had no clue. No clue valentine was going to declare and no clue on GM. Its a big miss however there is some young talent so if He and JP can bring the young players along fast it can still be salvaged and possibly a plus on the long term