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NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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Here's what I think.. By the time you're a senior, you know how to play the stinking position in college. I don't care if it's a team sport, or you're in the band playing trumpet. You know the drill, you know how to do it.

Here comes the next DL coach, the 3rd in as many years.. another guy having to try to put his stamp on the position, like anyone would do in their first year. But as a player, seeing this happen now the third time, you just kind of go, F this. I got more important stuff to do than deal with this BS again.

It doesn't mean it reflects badly on the position coaches, it just is what it is.
 
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"Who leaves as a SENIOR STARTER??"

This happens a lot. I know it's difficult for a lot of people to think about walking away but it's not too uncommon. Just look at the NFL. Chris Borland retired after one year, leaving millions on the table as a starting LB for the 49ers. Calvin Johnson just retired at 30. And keep in mind these are guys choosing to walk away from millions at the highest level in the NFL - not just a starter on a college team. McMullen doesn't project to have an NFL career, and if focusing on grad school will benefit him long-term, then it's the right decision. Back about 6-7 years ago Myron Rolle from Florida State delayed entering the draft because he was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship. Even though he was drafted afterwards, most feel taking that year off football may have hurt his chances or either being drafted higher or sticking in the NFL. The point is that at every level of football, it's not shocking that players in their prime decide that things other than football are more important and decide to give up football. I don't have any extra insight or know McMullen at all, and have no idea if it has anything to do with coaches or purely an academic decision, but I know this sort of stuff happens in this day and age of football. More and more players are conscious of the effects, their future, etc and if someone doesn't have a future in the NFL, it's not hard to see them giving up their last year of football to focus on something they feel may be their future.
I understand what you're saying but the whole thing just doesn't add up. Seems like a cover story for a reason to leave. Just has a weird vibe to it all around. JMHO
 

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Anyone else find it strange that Banker had to find out from reporters that his D line boys were leaving? Who leaves as a SENIOR STARTER?? It has been mentioned that this is a good thing. That basically the last of the Bo-Kaz poisoned well guys are now gone. Anyone else get that sense or am I being paranoid??
People still blaming Bo and Co. for issues facing the current Nebraska team...are in serious need of a reality check. There's only so long one can continue to blame Pelini and staff for our program's ills.

Some Nebraska fans are turning Bo Pelini into a "Thanks, Obama" meme.

 

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Tanner Farmer was our best OL yesterday. Gates did well but Tanner was dominant a la Husker Pipeline Pancake dominant. Was awesome to watch.

With that being said, he should have been moved to DT this spring with our depth. Kid is a big strong mauler with great grips and leverage. Could have been a perfect fit at DT. He will make the league as an OG but could have made more money at DT.

Losing McMullen kills us. He and Maurice at starter would have been solid. Big bodied and experienced. Then the twins as backups and Newell/Stoltenberg being developed at a reasonable pace. One injury and we aren't screwed as one of the twins goes in.

Losing McMullen hurts.

It's insane to picture a D with Collins and Valentine as starters. Maurice and McMullen as backups. Williams and the twins as depths. Stoltenberg and Newell as developmental kids. We were LOADED at DT. Losing 4 DTs who would have been senior first and second string kids is truly mind blowing.

Imagine if you took our entire first and second string OL and removed them from the team. Take a look what we have left. That's the equivalent of what he have on DL. We were fortunate to have the depth we had.
 

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Tanner Farmer was our best OL yesterday. Gates did well but Tanner was dominant a la Husker Pipeline Pancake dominant. Was awesome to watch.

With that being said, he should have been moved to DT this spring with our depth. Kid is a big strong mauler with great grips and leverage. Could have been a perfect fit at DT. He will make the league as an OG but could have made more money at DT.

Losing McMullen kills us. He and Maurice at starter would have been solid. Big bodied and experienced. Then the twins as backups and Newell/Stoltenberg being developed at a reasonable pace. One injury and we aren't screwed as one of the twins goes in.

Losing McMullen hurts.

It's insane to picture a D with Collins and Valentine as starters. Maurice and McMullen as backups. Williams and the twins as depths. Stoltenberg and Newell as developmental kids. We were LOADED at DT. Losing 4 DTs who would have been senior first and second string kids is truly mind blowing.

Imagine if you took our entire first and second string OL and removed them from the team. Take a look what we have left. That's the equivalent of what he have on DL. We were fortunate to have the depth we had.
 
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Tanner Farmer was our best OL yesterday. Gates did well but Tanner was dominant a la Husker Pipeline Pancake dominant. Was awesome to watch.

With that being said, he should have been moved to DT this spring with our depth. Kid is a big strong mauler with great grips and leverage. Could have been a perfect fit at DT. He will make the league as an OG but could have made more money at DT.

Losing McMullen kills us. He and Maurice at starter would have been solid. Big bodied and experienced. Then the twins as backups and Newell/Stoltenberg being developed at a reasonable pace. One injury and we aren't screwed as one of the twins goes in.

Losing McMullen hurts.

It's insane to picture a D with Collins and Valentine as starters. Maurice and McMullen as backups. Williams and the twins as depths. Stoltenberg and Newell as developmental kids. We were LOADED at DT. Losing 4 DTs who would have been senior first and second string kids is truly mind blowing.

Imagine if you took our entire first and second string OL and removed them from the team. Take a look what we have left. That's the equivalent of what he have on DL. We were fortunate to have the depth we had.

Are you suggesting taking who you consider our best OL and making him a backup DT? That doesn't make much sense. Why not move a backup that won't see the field?
 

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Even with the losses, our depth at DT isn't as bad as 2012. We essentially had 3 guys available...Steinkuhler, Randall, and Rome.
 
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Even with the losses, our depth at DT isn't as bad as 2012. We essentially had 3 guys available...Steinkuhler, Randall, and Rome.

And I'm not sure if Randle was ever able to finish a game. That guy was the definition of the injury bug.
 

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People still blaming Bo and Co. for issues facing the current Nebraska team...are in serious need of a reality check. There's only so long one can continue to blame Pelini and staff for our program's ills.

Some Nebraska fans are turning Bo Pelini into a "Thanks, Obama" meme.

I think you mean "blame bush" as that seems to be what our president and his fanboys still do but I get what you're sayin and agree.
Others are commending him for leaving to focus on school...
I'm over here thinking, stick it out you selfish ***** and work hard in school too.
But maybe I'm insensitive.
 
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People still blaming Bo and Co. for issues facing the current Nebraska team...are in serious need of a reality check. There's only so long one can continue to blame Pelini and staff for our program's ills.

Some Nebraska fans are turning Bo Pelini into a "Thanks, Obama" meme.


what are you talking about? There isn't a single player that is a Mike Riley recruit that has taken a snap in a real game yet....
 

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All I know is that at least one of our DTs LOVES Parella! He didn't like Hughes at all, because he could tell, but couldn't demonstrate. Parella shows and tells.
 
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Your handle is "baseball31ne", this is a football board...

What, a football board, they heck you say? Well thanks i guess as a sports fan who actually coaches one sport but watches others I should know my place. Thanks for that. Ok now back to reality, I am a sports fan and big-time Husker fan. I will comment on the football board and if my handle bothers you, grow a thicker skin or ignore me. He made a comment and I responded and that is best you got, that's sad
 
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People still blaming Bo and Co. for issues facing the current Nebraska team...are in serious need of a reality check. There's only so long one can continue to blame Pelini and staff for our program's ills.

Some Nebraska fans are turning Bo Pelini into a "Thanks, Obama" meme.

I blame Osborne. He kept the lunatic around, and now one of his disciples cannot get the "good kids who run through walls" to play football. Facts are facts.
 
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People still blaming Bo and Co. for issues facing the current Nebraska team...are in serious need of a reality check. There's only so long one can continue to blame Pelini and staff for our program's ills.

Some Nebraska fans are turning Bo Pelini into a "Thanks, Obama" meme.

That didn't take long. I seem to remember Bo lovers still blaming Callahan till the better end. Oh...and let's not forget the conference change which made it just oh so tough for Bo Bo.
 
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What, a football board, they heck you say? Well thanks i guess as a sports fan who actually coaches one sport but watches others I should know my place. Thanks for that. Ok now back to reality, I am a sports fan and big-time Husker fan. I will comment on the football board and if my handle bothers you, grow a thicker skin or ignore me. He made a comment and I responded and that is best you got, that's sad

You didn't offend me friend, I was just lampooning your Amelia Bedelia-like post:

Well, since you mentioned the crutches with an LOL, I thought maybe you might have been a bit confused about the timeline for his need to be healthy enough to be on the field.

I found your post funny, as if 4.6.3 really thought Isaiah Johnson would even be eligible to play for the Huskers tomorrow let alone needed to be physically ready. On top of which the Husker Football team doesn't even have a game scheduled for today. It made me laugh so I tried to keep your theme by pointing out that you are a literal baseball guy... You are right it is sad, I had to explain my joke, so consider me rebuked sir. Although I must admit the fact that you felt the need to justify your handle by pointing out you are a baseball coach is quite zesty! Almost proving my point, no? I have no quarrel with you and wish to put this unsavory tiff behind us. Let us bury the proverbial hatchet (figure of speech, please don't bury a real hatchet) ; )
 
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Parrella is accountable for this after about a couple of months but Riley and the rest of his staff aren't accountable to what happened last season. Makes perfect sense :rolleyes:
Where did I say that? Riley didn't buy a specific house quick enough, so that was to blame. Parrella coaches under Riley, just like Hughes. Parrella running off players must be the "Husker" way... right???
 

rez dog 70

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So when are we going to address the real problem???
Or do I have to point everything out?
 
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Should NEVER fired Pederson.
This illiterate clown is STILL blaming Pederson and Callahan. That's where a 1st-grade level education and cognative thinking ability gets you @huskerbaseball
 

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Okay, so as I see it we should worry when 4 DTs with eligibility leave. A source of strength has evaporated and we are all left scratching out heads. Not landing one interior lineman last year was a disaster. Big Kevin Maurice should be good, the rest are almost complete unknowns. I have high hopes for the twins, be we wont know til fall. An insider would be nice, was this out of left field to the coaches, did Parrella have any input, are Williams, Thurston and McMullen the three that get us down to numbers? Will there be more?
 
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My 2 cents. None of the interior defensive lineman the past several years have had any type of self motivational drive. ALL have had to poked and prodded to make themselves noticeable in any type of defensive scheme. If they want to leave and turn the reigns over to the younger non mind polluted players, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Make mistakes going 100% rather than hoping to make a play at 60%. Tired of lazy players making poor excuses for non performance. (I think JP was making these guys work too hard and requiring more effort than they were willing to give...bye bye)
 

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Are you suggesting taking who you consider our best OL and making him a backup DT? That doesn't make much sense. Why not move a backup that won't see the field?

I'm not saying we should. I'm saying we SHOULD have. Should have happened pre spring. The drop off between Barnett/Whitaker and Farmer isn't the Grand Canyon. Would have given them more first team reps and given Farmer a chance to develop as a DT. Just as importantly (maybe more) it prevents something catastrophic from happening injury-wise in that position group.

This could be a special year for NU if things tip our way as frequently as they tipped against us last year. Literally, I believe if our luck is as fortunate this year as it was last we could be an 11-1 type team. We get two knee injuries on the DL and last year's record could happen again.
 

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Parella is the man I dont think anyone is saying different at this point....Although it doesnt take much to improve over Hank
 

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He's being sarcastic. I'm not putting any of this on JP. Our bungling of DT recruiting goes back to Bo's regime and carried over to Hughes. JP is going to clean up their mess.

Nah it's past sarcasm at this point. Even dogs give up their bone eventually but not this "fan". I'm SO tired of running into the stupid posts.
 
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My 2 cents. None of the interior defensive lineman the past several years have had any type of self motivational drive. ALL have had to poked and prodded to make themselves noticeable in any type of defensive scheme. If they want to leave and turn the reigns over to the younger non mind polluted players, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Make mistakes going 100% rather than hoping to make a play at 60%. Tired of lazy players making poor excuses for non performance. (I think JP was making these guys work too hard and requiring more effort than they were willing to give...bye bye)
I would tend to agree with this. McMullen took a beating on this board last fall for his play. Did Collins play to his (huge) potential? Sometimes. Vince the same. Hard to say with Williams. Given his story at NU of being oft injured, we really can't know. But whereas he is disgruntled, Greg perhaps reached a decision point where he decided to walk away from the game.
 

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G. Mac and Williams are seasoned but when have they dominated in they're 4-5 years here? These seniors were in prime position to be starters and for what ever reason couldn't separate themselves from underclassmen. Don't get me wrong, would've been valuable if they stayed but now the youngsters with more upside can develop.
 

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I would tend to agree with this. McMullen took a beating on this board last fall for his play. Did Collins play to his (huge) potential? Sometimes. Vince the same. Hard to say with Williams. Given his story at NU of being oft injured, we really can't know. But whereas he is disgruntled, Greg perhaps reached a decision point where he decided to walk away from the game.
IMO what people are missing in this deal is that there is a very good chance that McMullen and Williams were not going to be starters and in fact Williams might not have even been on the 2 deep. We have some very talented hard nosed high motor youngsters itching to get on the field and taking a play off was not going to cut it this year. Why is anybody surprised that somebody coached by Pelini and Kaz for several years would quit on their team when things apparently weren't going their way? I will say somebody from Pelini's staff deserves some credit for some of the young talent we have in trenches. IMO, Garrison and maybe Papuchis or Kaz did some good work in that regard late in their terms here. Thurston leaving is a head scratcher unless there is something to it other than football.