found the ole miss fan.Ole miss extend Kiffin
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found the ole miss fan.
Ha-ha, he already said it ain’t about the $ and he needed om more than they needed him. He says Sexton says it’s all about the $. He’ll stay, decline the rate increase, and actually donate half his current salary back to TRG Funding to beef up his natty championship team for next year. He loves Oxford so much, wait and see!***
I'd quibble over whether they are overpaying him. Somebody is going to throw money at him this off season because there are going to be too many big openings without enough proven coaches to go around. Also, they are Indiana, so the downside risk to them having to replace him is higher than it is for a more traditional school. And because they are Indiana they probably are going to have to pay a premium for a relatively proven coach (I know his track record is short, but it's pretty damn good and way, way better than anything they'd find on the open market) to make up for not traditionally being a school with the resources or commitment to compete for a national championship (or just compete period) in football.
It's no different than State with Mullen and UM with Kiffin. Both probably got paid more than their record strictly justified early on (although I'd say both justified it after the fact). If either one had been willing to make a long term commitment and showed they actually wanted to retire there and not use it as a stepping stone, they'd have been worth even more.
ETA: All that to say they are overpaying him in the sense that every P4 college football coach is overpaid. Based on the market, I'd bet they are right in line.
Gundy? Flarda and Tennessee both reportedly tried to lure him away from Stillwater. Of course it’s different when the coach is a native son and one of the school’s most decorated former players.
Thank you. I knew I was probably missing an obvious example and that is probably the best example out there, or at least better than mine. I don't remember him being a name for those jobs, but to the extent that's not just a memory failure on my part, I think there was never a lot of noise with him because it was assumed that he was committed to Ok St. and not looking to job hop.
He’s making $12 million per year with one career Top 25 win. And I don’t even think he had that win at the time the latest extension was signed. There is overpaying, and then there is exorbitant, fear-based vomiting of money at somebody just to keep from having to return to bottom-dweller status. That 2nd thing is what IU is doing.
Well, not now they aren’t. If you’re throwing out those kinds of offers you might as well try to get Day or Smart before you go after Cignetti. And Cignetti would also be foolish to sign that massive extension, and then STILL take another job because he’d be handicapping his next employer by piling on a bunch if unnecessary buyout money that could be used on players, or his own job security.
Of course it is. But there comes a point where you are paying too much to a coach and it prevents you from landing the most important piece, which is the players. It becomes very counterproductive.
That’s the thing. They already were paying a hell of a premium. Again, $8 million per year BEFORE the latest extension. That was already Top 10-15 money for a dude with no Top 25 wins, no conference championships or even CG appearances, no playoff wins, etc. Who is again also 64 years old.
It’s a lot different. Mullen and now Kiffin both made essentially middle-of-the-pack money in the SEC. Maybe more upper tier in Kiffin’s case. But nowhere near Top 3 in all of college football. And State/OM are both a hell of a lot better than IU historically.
I laugh at the people who say you cannot win a national championship at State, Indiana, Memphis, etc. You can if you have the right players and coach. Once you make it to the dance, anything can happen. NIL has changed a lot of the landscape. Kids get paid to play and want to play. No more riding the pine just so you can say you played for bama.
You mean when he and Saban had a spat over how he handled his PROMOTION to FAU? What was that…..9 years ago, and 3 jobs ago? Nobody cares about that. He’s already had highly successful runs as a HC at two different programs between those events and now.
Kiffin could be the exact same person now as he was then, and people still wouldn’t care about that crap. But he isn’t. He’s 3 years sober, has lost 30 pounds, has very publicly admitted to many mistakes and past immaturity issues in his work and his personal life, and cleaned both of them up. He’s reconnected with his ex-wife who he previously betrayed. He’s done a lot of work on himself.
It’s comical that you believe that Texas can hire a dude who was known to be coaching games while drunk, and guys like Brian Kelly and DJ Durkin can keep getting jobs while having actual human deaths connected to their leadership, yet no big schools are going to take a chance on a guy that made the angriest mother17er on earth get a little bit mad one time like a decade ago.
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No, although that didn't help. Like I said, you need to dig into it a bit. Y'all are grasping at straws. He ain't going anywhere. I'd love to be wrong on this. Maybe I will be.
Why don't you save us all the time and tell us?
I know why you want b/c you are a huge PY. Bc you don't know $h!t and if you tell us something then you might be proven wrong.
Get back to us when someone wins one at State, Indiana, Memphis or Mississippi. Last non-blue bloods to win were Washington, GA Tech and Colorado back in 1990-1991.
I've said all about that I can. Honestly, I don't care whether you believe me or not. Just don't get your hopes up too high about him leaving.
You are already half wrong with your original post. You said he wouldn't leave because he wont get offers...He may not leave, but he most definitely will get offers, plural.
My hopes aren't anywhere but you don't know $h!t. Nothing. Zero. Nada.
Washington is a semi-blue blood. GA Tech used to be one. Colorado yep. Your point is certainly completely true though, it's exceedingly rare.
Go ahead and lock this into the internet so you cant edit or erase!
You are a moron if you don't think Kiffin is going to get offers. A SUB 89 MORON.
Not the kind of offers he will take. That is what we are discussing. It's going to take a real blueblood. I don't think those will come. Hopefully I'm completely wrong.
Oh, you are going to hear about a bunch of them. That is a certainty. Like I said. I hope you are right but y'all look rather silly pimping him out for every job right now.
You realize that you are saying that not only the folks on this board, but also the entirety on the college football national media are “grasping at straws”, correct?
Kiffin is the biggest potentially available coaching carousel name in the past 20 years. Period. There are a minimum of 4 or 5 jobs that are not going to hire until the Kiffin domino falls. That is how big of a deal this is. He will get a record or near record deal somewhere, and honestly he has earned it.
"He got all these offers and he chose to stay." That's where this is headed. I hope y'all are right and I am wrong. I will be very happy if I am wrong. I will be very unhappy if I am right.
If we continue at this pace, it will happen again soon. Really don't understand how bad teams are. I wonder if you'll see big resource schools move back to more simple offenses and try to out talent people. If you're going to be flipping a third of your roster every year, that might be the way to go rather than all the pass happy offenses that have been so prevalent.
He’s not that big. But in this years market, there’s a lot more elite jobs open than there are coaches to fill them. He’s going to get a very big offer. Probably more than one.
The point you seem to be missing is that its not either / or. He might get a lot of offers and still choose to stay. If he chooses to stay at OM and his new salary is $13 million, you can bet your asś it means that somebody really bigtime was willing to pay him $12.5 million.
Who was bigger? Meyer when he took the Ohio State job? I can’t think of anything else that was close.
Washington was in the final just a couple of years ago. Granted, they didn't win it.
No one is pimping him out. He is 100% going to get an offer if he wants one. He isn't "stuck" at ole miss like you seem to be saying.
But you are creating a scenario where you can't be wrong bc you are saying anything.
If he stays, you'll say he didn't get an offer.
So be very specific. What exactly are you saying or stfu.
Read what you are replying to again. That isn't saying he actually got the offers. That's what the narrative will be though.
surely we all realize that before an actual "offer" is made there are no less than 200 exploratory phone calls
it is the same as a junior high dating scene.... if I ask you out will you say yes or no?
See you still aren't saying anything.
Can you answer a question directly? Is it possible for you to do such?
If Kiffin signs a contract for $11.5 million or higher at Ole Miss, do you think he had the option to leave Ole Miss? Yes or no?
There are always options. Options he would accept, like the ones being thrown around here, no. You will DEFINITELY hear that he got those offers. It’s part of the Game being played. Y‘all are unwittingly playing your part. Hopefully you are right and he leaves. It would make me happy.
I can’t be right about this bc I never said he was leaving. I don’t know what he will do.
I KNOW HE WILL GET OFFERED BY EITHER FLORIDA, AUBURN OR LSU. Among others and probably multiple offers.
If you think he won’t, you are wrong. But you are wrong a lot.