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One thing Bob Barchi doesn't seem to understand

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Football shouldn't and doesn't drive the bus for the Big 10 schools. Successful football programs are a luxury and not a necessity. Most Big 10 Athletic Departments are millions in the red despite the lucrative Football television revenues. Successful football teams appease the big money donors, and help to create a national brand for a University. New Jersey residents are taxed to death and the political big wigs who run the State realize that, Using student fees to support RU's football team is creating flak among the educators, students and citizens. Brand enhancement based on success in football is going to have to take a back seat to building the academic prestige of the University and keeping tuition costs manageable. Barchi is shrewd enough to realize this. Mulchahy, Schiano, and McCormick accomplished their mission in helping RU gain Big 10 membership. Barchi and the Board of Governors, however, are going to do what's best for the University at large and the public perception of fiscal responsibility. They are going to use the television revenue monies for those interests, and not to pump monies into the football program. Look how he's starving the Mens BB program and the RAC renovations. It sucks for us football fans, but that's the reality of the situation. I think the best to hope for is to catch lightening in the bottle like Temple did this year. This could of course change if some real big money donors and boosters demand more success on the field.
 
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RC1978 said:
Your questions would take a lot of time and effort to answer. I can put it this way.Since he as been here.

SAT admittance scores are the highest ever
Rankings have started to go back up instead of the steady decline.
Most new buildings and development since the 50's and 60's.
New master plan to reshape CA campus
New Med school successfully merged
Higher research funding, just put out today is this link, http://www.dailytargum.com/article/2015/11/rutgers-sees-increase-in-research-funding
highest fund raising in history
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Thanks RC.
 
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batts said:
Football shouldn't and doesn't drive the bus for the Big 10 schools. Successful football programs are a luxury and not a necessity. Most Big 10 Athletic Departments are millions in the red despite the lucrative Football television revenues. Successful football teams appease the big money donors, and help to create a national brand for a University. New Jersey residents are taxed to death and the political big wigs who run the State realize that, Using student fees to support RU's football team is creating flak among the educators, students and citizens. Brand enhancement based on success in football is going to have to take a back seat to building the academic prestige of the University and keeping tuition costs manageable. Barchi is shrewd enough to realize this. Mulchahy, Schiano, and McCormick accomplished their mission in helping RU gain Big 10 membership. Barchi and the Board of Governors, however, are going to do what's best for the University at large and the public perception of fiscal responsibility. They are going to use the television revenue monies for those interests, and not to pump monies into the football program. Look how he's starving the Mens BB program and the RAC renovations. It sucks for us football fans, but that's the reality of the situation. I think the best to hope for is to catch lightening in the bottle like Temple did this year. This could of course change if some real big money donors and boosters demand more success on the field.
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You must be trolling at this point. Almost directly above your post is proof that RU football is not supported by student fees or university subsidies. Just because many athletic programs run a deficit doesn't mean FB programs in the B1G lose money. At most universities, revenue sports (hint- they're called revenue sports for a reason) do not throw off enough cash to fund 20+ other sports as well as all the athletic infrastructure. Pushing FB (and MBB) to the back burner will result in large subsidies, which means less money for academics, not more.
 
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Best7Years said:
You must be trolling at this point. Almost directly above your post is proof that RU football is not supported by student fees or university subsidies. Just because many athletic programs run a deficit doesn't mean FB programs in the B1G lose money. At most universities, revenue sports (hint- they're called revenue sports for a reason) do not throw off enough cash to fund 20+ other sports as well as all the athletic infrastructure. Pushing FB (and MBB) to the back burner will result in large subsidies, which means less money for academics, not more.
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I stopped reading at:
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"Athletic departments in the Big Ten average annual losses of about $10 million, with some schools losing more than $20 million, according to the report, entitled “Eye on the Ball: Big-Time Sports Pose Growing Risks for Universities.”

"Rutgers channeled nearly $28 million in direct subsidies and student fees into its athletic budget of more than $60 million this year."

See Articles below.


www.northjersey.com/news/education/rutgers-big-ten-status-may-not-produce-a-windfall-report-warns-1.587567

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...d2dPgB4wWej4Yg&bvm=bv.107763241,d.dmo&cad=rja
 
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batts said:
"Athletic departments in the Big Ten average annual losses of about $10 million, with some schools losing more than $20 million, according to the report, entitled “Eye on the Ball: Big-Time Sports Pose Growing Risks for Universities.”

"Rutgers channeled nearly $28 million in direct subsidies and student fees into its athletic budget of more than $60 million this year."

See Articles below.
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Ooooh. Fun with statistics.

There are 4 people in my house. I earn $100K and the other 3 don't work, so they each earn $0. The average earnings is $25K. But that doesn't mean that most people in my house earn $25K.



You said that most Big Ten athletic departments are millions in the red. That means that >50% of Big Ten athletic departments subsidize losses greater than $2 million (millions is plural, so that means 2 or greater).

The latest figures are from FY2014 for public Big Ten Universities. This is how much each athletic department is subsidized (including student fees):

Ohio St 0 MM
Penn St 0 MM
Nebraska 0 MM
Purdue 0 MM
Michigan 0.256 MM
Iowa 0.683 MM
Mich St 1.094 MM
Indiana 3.008 MM
Illinois 3.927 MM
Minnesota 7.011 MM
Wisconsin 8.073 MM
Maryland 18.121 MM
Rutgers 36.341 MM

The average is $6.03 MM. But since this is from 2014, it is from when Maryland was in the ACC and Rutgers was in the AAC. So excluding Maryland and Rutgers, the average is $2.18 MM. And only 4 of the 11 public Big Ten schools had subsidies greater than $2 MM. (Even if you count Rutgers and Maryland, that is only 6 of 13 schools with millions of dollars subsidized, less than 50% of the conference.)
 
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