Oregon, Washington, fla state and Clemson to b10?
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I can not see this happening, especially this week. Oregon and Washington sometime this year, sure but we are a long way from breaking up the ACC. The only way I see the ACC breaking up is to get the majority of the teams leaving all at once. Not enough landing spots for everyone.
every year something happens that makes some fans feel Rutgers is in serious trouble.
This rumor becoming fact is just the latest.
Stay tuned for next years serious trouble report
FSU & Clemson = unnecessary
We finish last or 2nd to last in the division every year. If FSU and Clemson join, we still finish last or 2nd to last…nothing changes, provided Indiana stays in the league.
I think if the SEC wanted them they would be there already and even if they were to join the SEC I think it’s better for RU in the long run.
Horrible for Rutgers long term future if true. We want the BIG to stay selective regarding academic reputation.
There has been nothing shown that changes the fact that lawyers for schools like FSU, Clemson, Texas, Oklahoma, etc. have analyzed the GORs for years and advised them they can’t get out (or at least that the chances of getting out of the GOR are small enough that it isn’t worth the downside risk of losing the challenge in court).
assuming we cannot ever get better
I don't think Clemson was always this good
Just get better
I had an article pop up on my phone earlier today that claimed FSU is agreeing to a record $300 million buyout with the ACC to be paid at $30 million per year over ten years. The theory is they would still be better off financially with B1G bucks, no whammies.
When people talk about “good for RU” it has nothing to do with the competition. It’s always about the long term fear of the musical chairs game ending without RU having a seat in a super conference…. From this perspective, we want the BIG to stick with flagship public universities with strong research programs and good academic reputations. As long as that’s a priority, RU fits right in and is safe based on its geography.
Yeah, not following rujmm's, logic here. I mean, yes, he is eternally doom and gloom but we are already in one of the top 2 conferences. Is the fear they try to kick us out? Or that we just wont be able to compete? #1 ain't happening and #2 is where we already sit. Can only get better from here.
They have to notify the league by 8/15
Gun to my head, I think they’d do what Texas and OU did in announcing with a two year lead time, thereby entering the B1G by 2025
I think it is a board of trustees meeting today at FSU, not a ACC meeting
Some, think it is coming up at that meeting
I know I’m just saying at todays meeting, whatever decision is made I’d assume would be rolled out for 2025
Which
ok, which the conference isn’t no matter who it does or doesn’t add.
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None of the 4 schools listed per the OP does anything to elevate Big 10 BB - albeit that’s irrelevant during the Conference realignment marathon.
Once the ACC implodes, I’d like UNC and UVA to join conference.
Once the ACC implodes, I’d like UNC and UVA to join conference.
While TV $$ remains the overall driver, and Nebraska and to some extent PSU are outliers, the B1G still cares about academic reputation and research. That’s why large state research schools like UVA, UNC, Cal and Washington all make sense. You take Stanford for the academics alone but its market doesn’t hurt either. Oregon fits the PSU model of solid but not great school with a very good brand. I don’t see FSU or Clemson fitting in but the B1G may not want to give up Florida.
It’s been said many times but schools like Cuse, BC, Duke and Wake are in real trouble long term. They’ll always have a home for bball but it’s tough to find them a finding a landing spot at the big table for football.
It’s been said many times but schools like Cuse, BC, Duke and Wake are in real trouble long term. They’ll always have a home for bball but it’s tough to find them a finding a landing spot at the big table for football.
This payout is widely reported, but it might be the way FSU wants it, and maybe the ACC has the right to demand full payment, in an attempt to block the move
Someone mentioned that there is an additional 100 million owed due to another provision in the contracts
100 mil is the exit fee - I don’t believe there’s anyway to get out if that
300 mil is estimate what’s owed to conference re GOR - With deferred payments being the widely recognized method as of now
I think the big ten takes these two if they can get them
First, being high profile football programs, they are a good addition
We don't want the SEC to surpass us in a measurable way with them getting the two
Second, you want to cripple the ACC.
This would be a severe blow, and the big ten would like for there to be just two powerful conferences
No one had sympathy with the dismantling of the football big east, the same is
true here
Looking back, I would have been happy with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma if the big ten acted. I think we were not aggressive enough at that time and have learned from it
If B1G adds 4 teams - how does the NCAA Tournament selection committee respond/adapt?
Would they send 10, 11, 12 or more teams, if deserving, to the NCAA Tournament?
Does the B1G go to 22 conference games? 24?
Would they send 10, 11, 12 or more teams, if deserving, to the NCAA Tournament?
Does the B1G go to 22 conference games? 24?
As I understand it, the absolute biggest exposure if the ACC GOR was ironclad is that is a school leaves:
-they pay a $120 million exit fee
-they DON’T get paid the $30 million in annual tv rights until the contract ends in 2036
-the ACC keeps the TV rights for the school until the contract ends in 2036 so the school has nothing to offer a new conference.
Is the thinking at FSU that it would be worth it to work out a settlement where they would pay the exit fee and compensate the ACC for the $30 million annual payments (which would total $3-400 million), as long as what they gain in the settlement is the ability to walk with control of their TV rights to a new conference?
I think it would be more like 40 if you account for the exit fee, but I can see why that would work for FSU.
I can see why there is a chance the ACC would go for it as well. I don’t think it would open the flood gates for a bunch of schools to leave, because most don’t have the high priced landing spot waiting for them and there are political considerations with a lot of the schools.
In a way, it kind of strengthens the GOR for the ACC because a school admitted they had to negotiate to get out instead of challenging it. Then , they could just invite UConn as a replacement and strengthen the basketball, which is what they really care about anyway.
I guess that would work
Id milk it too, if I were them, but the ultimate goal would be to be the top or near the top basketball conference of the nation
Sort of like a Big East 2.0, but without all of the Catholic schools.
With USC and UCLA joining next year, do you think we stay at 20 conference games or 22 ?
I’d like the conference to go to 22 games given the 2 additional schools and given there is no more ACC challenge - but I think it remains at 20 games.
Hopefully I’m pleasantly surprised!
Adding Florida State to the B1G media deal would require agreement between the B1G conference, multiple media players, the 14 current B1G schools, UCLA, USC, the ACC conference, ACC schools, Florida State, and possibly Florida politicians because the ACC exit would cost mid-9 figures.
Easy to imagine this happening. Putting together this deal wouldn’t be easy in real life.