How important is research when TV execs control the membership of the conference?
Oregon, Washington to Big Ten!
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How important is research when TV execs control the membership of the conference?
It is but then they estimate about 10am extra travel costs so it becomes about par maybe with the B10 deal being a little more. Regardless, they have long term security now.
President's actually control it.
Media rights deals are peanuts compared to grants the consortium gets. They don't want to rock that boat. Especially when there is zero reason to.
Nah that would be Northwestern. Wouldn't be the first small team in Chicago that left the conference either.
Well said. Those that think football money drives the bus, are quite ignorant. Research grants are in the billions.
Chill bro nothing like this is not the horizon. We need to improve for the fans and for our self respect, not for outside reasons.
The longer this goes on, the less strength ND is going to have.
The B1G isn't going to kowtow to them. They are a great brand but they aren't coming into the B1G calling shots. That's why they are in the Acc for everything but their crown jewel.
Ok, many people don’t understand this. There are no such thing as consortium grants. Individual universities receive grants, and they are all competing against each other for those grants, so they rarely cooperate or bid jointly for anything. Rutgers has not generated anything tangible from the research consortium, and expansion decisions are solely being made around football considerations that are being guided by out media partners, which is why Oregon and Washington are in, and Stanford and Cal are out.
Well, that’s what I thought, But everybody says it’s gonna be better. Asking the dealer and pimp if it’s better seems somehow unwise.
Add North Carolina and Virginia for 20. Then the Big 10 East is Rutgers, Penn State, Maryland, NC and Virginia.
I don’t think being exited from the B1G is a consideration at all. However, the issue of OSU, Mich etc. demanding a different allocation of revenue based on football success and tv ratings is a real concern in the future in my opinion.
Not too long ago we would have jumped at the chance for a long term pact like that. They’re not stupid. It was the right move at the time.
Every team added to the Big 10 is a member of the Association of American Universities.(AAU) FSU has no chance.
They thought the ACC Network would be critical to driving revenue growth in the future and cut a deal to get it. It turns out they were wrong about that.
Why would the U of Chicago stay in the consortium then and how are member schools able to get $10B a year in grants? Are you claiming they just do that individually?
Also read that the 1/2 share that Oregon and Washington will be receiving is still more than a full share in every other conference except the SEC
True, but my point was they weren’t stupid. Times change. Our situation shows it’s better to be lucky than good
For decades the universities of the Big 10 were of the biggest research universities in the country, and they are all applying for any research programs and grants they can. Rutgers was doing this long before joining the Big 10. The consortium is a glorified Library sharing program, that is about it. Stanford is generating nearly $2 billion of research grants by itself.
Nice advantage over west Coast teams having to fly East to play noon games
Not any more than they will have when the East Coast teams fly west for a 7:30 PST kickoff. A 1:30 - 2 AM EST finish.
From the numbers I know, these moves do not benefit RU financially at this time. I don’t see how these schools pay for their share, although with a 50% revenue cut for UW and OU, which will increase to a full share in 2029-30, the shortfall to us is diminished.
I agree, the Big 10 thought the same thing, and our network is doing better than the ACC Network, but it turns out the the real money is made from broadcasting marquee games on the big traditional networks.
Most of the Big10 schools are heavy-duty research factories, and all except Nebraska do it on a scale to be AAU. Football has nothing to do with it. The consortium came much later. So yes, one school’s research level has nothing to do with the others’ levels. Research Collaboration happens more outside the conference than within it.
Agree with these main points but not the Stanford figure. Where did you see that ?
Delaying or not deciding to move forward is a decision. And that decision often has devastating consequences.
I saw it on a list of top research universities a while back but can’t recall exactly where
They have already come out and said that isn’t a requirement, because Notre Dame isn’t a member and they want them.
Notre Dame is a member. And where did they say that?
Our Members | Association of American Universities (AAU)
AAU includes 71 distinguished public and private research universities dedicated to improving human life through education, research, and discovery.
www.aau.edu
They bring an extra 12-14 home games a year that the B1G will be compensated for, either by the current partners or by selling a separate Sat night package.