Oscar's draft status

WildcatNC

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Oscar will play on the league imo, but I doubt any team will spend a pick on him unless it's back of the second. It's possible a team just gets enamored with him, but I doubt it. A guy who can rebound and defend like him has a place in the NBA.

Having said that we all know how March can skyrocket your draft stock and have some players overvalued, especially if he were to end up as POY. Have to see how it plays out.
 

westerncat

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No Way on earth Oscar is an NBA player. He dunks with ease you say, he's been blocked by the rim on multiple occasions all year and misses often from a foot away. I love him don't get me wrong, just being honest here.
He definitely isn't "bouncy" lol. His midrange game doesn't need to be defended unless he's shooting free throws, I thought on a few occasions this year he had busted the backboard with those jumpers. He isn't in the mock drafts for a reason, do you think they don't know about him lol. He also is short for the league, he's not a center and he can't play the 4 there because he can't shoot.
He's a wonderful college stud but he ain't no leaguer. It's fine if you think so though.
Sadly I have to agree with you. Just do not see him in the NBA because of the reason's you give. I hope we both are wrong and would love to see him make it in the NBA.
 

kl40504_rivals

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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
Bam would beg to differ.
 
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Definitely agree with him needing to improve his handling and shooting.. but as much as I’d want it to, it doesn’t necessarily need to be at UK. Along with his natural abilities and size/strength, His basketball IQ and ability to read the play and the ball on missed shots are enough to give him a shot in the NBA. Add his footwork and the touch on his shot he has a lot of NBA potential, especially as he develops a 3 ball. The fallacy that you have to be an above the rim player in the modern NBA needs to go. Big men that can’t shoot and only play above the rim are fading out.
He may not be an NBA star, but it the most NBA centers aren’t in the NBA for their above the rim play.
But if he stays one more year and develops his ball handling and shooting, he could get drafted higher which means a team will invest more time with him. If he goes this year, he likely ends up mid 2nd round an
Bam would beg to differ.
all due respect, Bam and Oscar’s games are nothing alike. Bam jumps out of the gym and has great ball skills for someone his size. Oscar is power, will, and great hands and as great as he is as a college player, currently the NBA doesn’t use 1st round picks on big guys like that.
 

26MichaelUK

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Seriously

So all these toothpick skinny bigs like Cauley stein are top 10 to mid first rounders but a guy with a motor and body like that and a face up jump shot to 17 feet you imagine are second round?
If that is the new nba then there is the problem
People like WCS are drafted on potential, like the hundreds of Uber athletes get picked over better players.
 

Son_Of_Saul

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Absolutely. What's the wager? I watch the NBA all the time, Oscar may get him a 10 day contract or something but he's an overseas guy. I'll bet ya anything you wanna bet he's not a first rounder.

Why don't you bet he doesn't get drafted at all or make an NBA roster for a full season?

Your bet is that he won't be in the first round. That's a weak bet. Double down and bet that he won't be drafted at all or end up on a one-year contract.

I doubt you feel that confident.
 

kyjeff1

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But if he stays one more year and develops his ball handling and shooting, he could get drafted higher which means a team will invest more time with him. If he goes this year, he likely ends up mid 2nd round an

all due respect, Bam and Oscar’s games are nothing alike. Bam jumps out of the gym and has great ball skills for someone his size. Oscar is power, will, and great hands and as great as he is as a college player, currently the NBA doesn’t use 1st round picks on big guys like that.
From everything I've been told, the NBA loses more and more interest the older you get.
Also, anything he can develop in college, he can develop at the next level easier and quicker.
 

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I see him having a similar career to Udonis Haslem. Productive starter for a few years and then on a roster for a long time because of his character and work ethic. There's a ton of bigs in the nba without "guard skills", and pretty much none of them rebound like Oscar. The bigs i see fail more often aren't the ones who can't play like a guard, it's the ones who can't defend other bigs who can play that way. Oscar can defend the bigs with guard skills and then he'll dominate them on the glass. He probably will get drafted later than he should for the stupid reasons people are saying but still early second is the latest i could see but should be late first.
 

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Just my opinion, but I think Oscar would be a perfect fit on a team like the Warriors. Kevon Looney has made a living with that team and won multiple titles, and Oscar could be a rich man's KL.

Decent comparison with height, wingspan, and Looney was taken with the 30th pick as well. Oscar a bit slower to the rim, but stronger with about an additional 30lbs muscle and better motor. I see him as a mid to late first rounder.
 
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WallMash

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I bet Oscar is on a NBA rooster after this MVP calibre year. And I'm pleased that was made possible after ditching WV for UK. The draft boards still haven't caught up with how special he is. But any GM who lets him go undrafted is an idiot.
 
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Charles Barkley was not a below the rim guy! For a 6’4” guy that played power forward he had ups..

Yep, that's what made Barkley so special. Guys that big/fat/thick/strong (whatever label you want to use) aren't supposed to be that explosive. He wasn't quite Zion Williamson athletic, but he was pretty close.
 
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There's definitely a place for him on an NBA roster. The game has changed, but there's still value in a guy that is grabbing 25-35% of all available rebounds and giving your team 5 extra possessions a game. However, with that said, I don't think NBA GM's will place that value in the 1st round of the draft (right or wrong as that may be).

I know he loves it here, but he might need to start earning a check next year. But if he did come back and continue improving and diversifying his game at the same rate ... learning to play as much like Bam Adebayo as possible ... he could work his way into the 1st round of the following draft.
 

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I think he's going to come back and try to win back to back titles for number 10! Mitch McConnell will get off his *** and do something about his immigration status and he'll make about 5 million next year in NIL money. ymmv
 

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Why don't you bet he doesn't get drafted at all or make an NBA roster for a full season?

Your bet is that he won't be in the first round. That's a weak bet. Double down and bet that he won't be drafted at all or end up on a one-year contract.

I doubt you feel that confident.

He's a troll trying to get a response out of us. He made it a little too obvious when he went back and re-quoted my original comment after I didnt take the bait the first time
 
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BBallin23

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He’ll go first round cause he plays like a 5 in todays game. I agree the players 1-4 need to shoot the three well, but the five man rarely does.
 
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I could see second round to somewhere like Miami. Would fit in with the culture and be a good option for minutes behind Bam.
 

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Lots of generalities in this thread regarding how the NBA game has changed, completely ignoring the fact that not all teams are the same. For example, the Jazz shot 50% more 3s than the Spurs last year. 68.6% of the Spurs' FGs were 2s, while only 51.2% of the Jazz's were.

There are also a couple of teams with under 600 offensive rebounds last year, and a couple with over 800. The Spurs were in the bottom 25% for them.

Seems like Oscar could be a decent fit for a team like the Spurs, where more emphasis is on 2s and where they could use more offensive rebounding. Oscar's work ethic and attitude also seem like a good fit there.

It all just depends on what each team is looking for and who's available when they pick.
 
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jwheat

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Thanks to our resident nba scout, deer turkey hunter for letting everyone who thinks Oscar is an nba player that they are wrong.

I wish the whole nation could watch the game through your professional lens
 
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sa_hunt

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He's a troll trying to get a response out of us. He made it a little too obvious when he went back and re-quoted my original comment after I didnt take the bait the first time
Why would I want a response out of anyone? Oscar has been a machine this year so far, and I love his energy and we aren't winning without him. That doesn't translate to the NBA or make him a first rounder. The guy isn't an NBA guy. Your comment of getting Oscar a 3 point shot shows how you're just being a homer. Oscar has nearly busted the backboard on several of his jump shot attempts, NO WAY on earth the guy can hit 3's, ain't happening. I'll be happy if he just finishes all of his missed 1 footers.
 

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Thanks to our resident nba scout, deer turkey hunter for letting everyone who thinks Oscar is an nba player that they are wrong.

I wish the whole nation could watch the game through your professional lens
They are wrong but that's ok. I wish they could also.
 

HagginHall1999

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No Way on earth Oscar is an NBA player. He dunks with ease you say, he's been blocked by the rim on multiple occasions all year and misses often from a foot away. I love him don't get me wrong, just being honest here.
He definitely isn't "bouncy" lol. His midrange game doesn't need to be defended unless he's shooting free throws, I thought on a few occasions this year he had busted the backboard with those jumpers. He isn't in the mock drafts for a reason, do you think they don't know about him lol. He also is short for the league, he's not a center and he can't play the 4 there because he can't shoot.
He's a wonderful college stud but he ain't no leaguer. It's fine if you think so though.

Not sure if I'm not picking up on some sarcasm but to say Is at can't shoot is laughable. He has a solid shot even beyond the elbow at 18 feet. So he's bricked some shots? Ok...

Cousins couldn't shoot when he was at UK and look what they did with him.

I think Oscar will play in the league. He is athletic, no not an explosive leaper but athletic enough and very strong.
 
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Not sure if I'm not picking up on some sarcasm but to say Is at can't shoot is laughable. He has a solid shot even beyond the elbow at 18 feet. So he's bricked some shots? Ok...

Cousins couldn't shoot when he was at UK and look what they did with him.

I think Oscar will play in the league. He is athletic, no not an explosive leaper but athletic enough and very strong.
Agree with being strong but please don't compare to Cousins in any way, including jump shots. Cousins would outshoot Oscar everyday of the year from anywhere on the floor because Oscar really can't shoot. He can hit free throws, I'll give him that. However, when he's sped up, in game action and has to shoot, he can't hit a bull in the arse.
 

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@DeerTurkHunter1 your analysis is without merit. I went and looked up shot charts for all of Oscar's shots free throw line extended and he is 15/28 on the year. There were 4 games that the shot charts weren't updated for whatever reason...but the above is for 13 games.
 
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HagginHall1999

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Agree with being strong but please don't compare to Cousins in any way, including jump shots. Cousins would outshoot Oscar everyday of the year from anywhere on the floor because Oscar really can't shoot. He can hit free throws, I'll give him that. However, when he's sped up, in game action and has to shoot, he can't hit a bull in the arse.

Could Cousins shoot at UK? Could Davis? That is the comparison I'm making. I didn't say anything about him being as good as those guys now.

My point is Oscar has a pretty decent set shot facing the basket. It isn't unreasonable to think he could continue to improve that facet of his game.

I don't think Oscar is a 1st round draft pick or anything. I just think he can carve out a role at next level.
 

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Why would I want a response out of anyone? Oscar has been a machine this year so far, and I love his energy and we aren't winning without him. That doesn't translate to the NBA or make him a first rounder. The guy isn't an NBA guy. Your comment of getting Oscar a 3 point shot shows how you're just being a homer. Oscar has nearly busted the backboard on several of his jump shot attempts, NO WAY on earth the guy can hit 3's, ain't happening. I'll be happy if he just finishes all of his missed 1 footers.
He leads the conference in FG%. He doesn't shoot more than 2 jumpers in any game. Can't miss as many close shots as you're acting like. He had what 4 and-1's against Vandy last week? He is pretty reliable when he decides to shoot.

I hope he can get his chance to prove himself at the next level, I know he doesn't fit the mold of player NBA scouts are looking for but he deserves a shot and hopefully he sticks at the right team.
 

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A longtime friend who is also an NBA scout told me just this morning that in the old NBA Oscar would be a shoo-in but now they want bigs who can shoot the three. He might go somewhere to fill a need but likely will either come back (yay) or go overseas. After all he does speak 5 languages.
 

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He seems to genuinely like it at UK that would be the only thing that brings him back.

Yes there are things he can improve but he can do that in the NBA. After a season like this some team will give him a shot mid to late first round.

I would love to see a starting 5 of Oscar, Wheeler, Sharpe,Wallace, and Livingston. With Toppin, Skyy and CJ off the bench. That’s a tough team. I’m sure there will be a surprise transfer or reclassification as well.
 
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A longtime friend who is also an NBA scout told me just this morning that in the old NBA Oscar would be a shoo-in but now they want bigs who can shoot the three. He might go somewhere to fill a need but likely will either come back (yay) or go overseas. After all he does speak 5 languages.
*6
 

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Yep, that's what made Barkley so special. Guys that big/fat/thick/strong (whatever label you want to use) aren't supposed to be that explosive. He wasn't quite Zion Williamson athletic, but he was pretty close.
Barkley was the better player of the 2. Barkley actually played, he wasn't always hurt. In case you forgot Barkley in in the hall of fame. Williamson has to play to get there. Even with espn pushing him as the greatest ever, they won't be able to get him into the hall if he never plays.
 

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Oscar dominates down low against smaller guys, but struggles against guys his size
Box scores prove this.
 

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Oscar dominates down low against smaller guys, but struggles against guys his size
Box scores prove this.
******** take. Does the box score show the touch fouls he's called for when defending the name players? We tied Duke in score when Oscar was playing. The difference came from him on the bench.

Can't tell you how many times Oscar gets hacked with the ball in the post. Obviously I would need to since you don't see it.

His footwork, his handle, his touch is second to none among big men in college basketball. Tubby ain't walking through that door. Get on board.
 

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******** take. Does the box score show the touch fouls he's called for when defending the name players? We tied Duke in score when Oscar was playing. The difference came from him on the bench.

Can't tell you how many times Oscar gets hacked with the ball in the post. Obviously I would need to since you don't see it.

His footwork, his handle, his touch is second to none among big men in college basketball. Tubby ain't walking through that door. Get on board.
LoL

I'm glad you agreed with my statement
Big guys neutralize his scoring ability
 

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Is that you Billy Reed?
We develop players here.
You can't ever judge the heart of a Champion
Especially behind a keyboard!!!
PLEASE

GO CATS@!!
 
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CELTICAT

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LoL

I'm glad you agreed with my statement
Big guys neutralize his scoring ability

28 rebounds against a 7'5" guy and he ate Armando Bacot alive. You've established yourself as a complete moron on this board, there's no need to one up yourself.
 
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