Oscar's draft status

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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
 

DerekMcPwn

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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
I’m not sure I agree. That may be his scouting report, and may have even been true a couple years ago. But the guy I see on the floor today is fast, agile, and bouncy. He runs faster than the guards, dunks with ease, and blocks way more shots than I anticipated. He’s also become a consistent mid-range shooting threat, and has even led his own fast breaks.

In other words, I see him 100% as an NBA player, and I think the scouts do too. The mock draft people just haven’t caught on yet.
 

K_TIME

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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
Seriously

So all these toothpick skinny bigs like Cauley stein are top 10 to mid first rounders but a guy with a motor and body like that and a face up jump shot to 17 feet you imagine are second round?
If that is the new nba then there is the problem
 

MakinMusic_rivals

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I’m not sure I agree. That may be his scouting report, and may have even been true a couple years ago. But the guy I see on the floor today is fast, agile, and bouncy. He runs faster than the guards, dunks with ease, and blocks way more shots than I anticipated. He’s also become a consistent mid-range shooting threat, and has even led his own fast breaks.

In other words, I see him 100% as an NBA player, and I think the scouts do too. The mock draft people just haven’t caught on yet.
Just not sure I agree he has become a consistent mid-range shooter. That said, it would not surprise me at all if he were drafted first 1st round just based on what they’ve seen so far.
 
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The NIL thing has to do with his student visa but apparently they found a loophole to where he's able to make Cameo videos. At least he's got some cash coming in but it's a shame he's not able to take advantage of it the way TyTy has. The way he's endeared himself to UK fans he could be a millionaire right now.
 

Yardeth

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He won’t be a first round pick, he will be late second. The game has changed to much, hell Enes barely touches the floor these days and can score and rebound with the best when he plays. Oscar plays better D.
 
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Seriously

So all these toothpick skinny bigs like Cauley stein are top 10 to mid first rounders but a guy with a motor and body like that and a face up jump shot to 17 feet you imagine are second round?
If that is the new nba then there is the problem

NBA wants bigs with guard skills. That's all there is to it. Oscar is extremely productive and an excellent traditional big man, the issues us he lacks guard oriented skills. It's not a knock so don't take it as such. The NBA is a business and there's no room for emotion.
WCS had the frame and athleticism that allowed him to physically be able to play like a big guard, he just lacked the fine motor skills and never developed outside of being a serviceable center.
 

CELTICAT

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He won’t be a first round pick, he will be late second. The game has changed to much, hell Enes barely touches the floor these days and can score and rebound with the beat when he plays. Oscar plays better D.

Enes is a horrendous defensive player and can’t be out on the floor if the other team is going to run pick and roll. Not a good analog to Oscar, imho.
 

kyjeff1

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Oscar is the definition of a guy that is a great college player, but is not an NBA guy.
However, I think he could go to the GL, or overseas and earn an NBA roster spot through hard work. Lots of guys have done that.
But I would love to see him back here next year, that would be incredible.
From what I understand though, he needs the money now, so he gone.
 

Hoskins91_rivals

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I’m not sure I agree. That may be his scouting report, and may have even been true a couple years ago. But the guy I see on the floor today is fast, agile, and bouncy. He runs faster than the guards, dunks with ease, and blocks way more shots than I anticipated. He’s also become a consistent mid-range shooting threat, and has even led his own fast breaks.

In other words, I see him 100% as an NBA player, and I think the scouts do too. The mock draft people just haven’t caught on yet.
He’s definitely not a leaper, and I don’t know how anyone who has watched him could claim otherwise. He’s an undersized center without a lot of ball skills. The jumper shows promise, but he’s gotta be wide open.
 

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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
Definitely agree with him needing to improve his handling and shooting.. but as much as I’d want it to, it doesn’t necessarily need to be at UK. Along with his natural abilities and size/strength, His basketball IQ and ability to read the play and the ball on missed shots are enough to give him a shot in the NBA. Add his footwork and the touch on his shot he has a lot of NBA potential, especially as he develops a 3 ball. The fallacy that you have to be an above the rim player in the modern NBA needs to go. Big men that can’t shoot and only play above the rim are fading out.
He may not be an NBA star, but it the most NBA centers aren’t in the NBA for their above the rim play.
 
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Love Oscar but he’s probably a 2nd round pick. He’s a beast but he’s also a below the rim big man which doesn’t really exist in today’s NBA. Sounds crazy but it might be best for him to come back for one more year and develop a more consistent outside shot and ball handling/passing skills. If UK can find a way to get him NIL eligible, might not be that far fetched.
So was Barkley. He worked out pretty well. Or more recently Draymond Green.
Both learned how to shoot also in NBA.

Yes his shot has improved. Nice arc too. But you don’t draft him to shoot jumpers. You draft him to get missed jumpers and kick back out to your shooters. I see a playoff team like GS to take him late 1st round to get Curry and Thompson an extra 4-5 shots per game.
 

Dr. H Lecter

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I love him and want him to go very high. I fear that he is seen as "straight line" fast but not quick twitch fast. He gets blocked too much around the rim when he goes up to dunk it. If they get that worked out he will be a high pick.
 

Yardeth

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Enes is a horrendous defensive player and can’t be out on the floor if the other team is going to run pick and roll. Not a good analog to Oscar, imho.
I concur, Enes is not good on the defensive end, but he is a better scorer and they rebound about the same. It was a shame we didn’t get to see Enes show his domination in the season/tournament.
 

Yardeth

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So was Barkley. He worked out pretty well. Or more recently Draymond Green.
Both learned how to shoot also in NBA.

Yes his shot has improved. Nice arc too. But you don’t draft him to shoot jumpers. You draft him to get missed jumpers and kick back out to your shooters. I see a playoff team like GS to take him late 1st round to get Curry and Thompson an extra 4-5 shots per game.
Charles Barkley was not a below the rim guy! For a 6’4” guy that played power forward he had ups..
 

UK-Chulo

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I concur, Enes is not good on the defensive end, but he is a better scorer and they rebound about the same. It was a shame we didn’t get to see Enes show his domination in the season/tournament.
Enes is doing his rebounding against NBA players. We don't know how Oscar will do in the trees. All of whom are super athletic and long.
 

sa_hunt

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I’m not sure I agree. That may be his scouting report, and may have even been true a couple years ago. But the guy I see on the floor today is fast, agile, and bouncy. He runs faster than the guards, dunks with ease, and blocks way more shots than I anticipated. He’s also become a consistent mid-range shooting threat, and has even led his own fast breaks.

In other words, I see him 100% as an NBA player, and I think the scouts do too. The mock draft people just haven’t caught on yet.
No Way on earth Oscar is an NBA player. He dunks with ease you say, he's been blocked by the rim on multiple occasions all year and misses often from a foot away. I love him don't get me wrong, just being honest here.
He definitely isn't "bouncy" lol. His midrange game doesn't need to be defended unless he's shooting free throws, I thought on a few occasions this year he had busted the backboard with those jumpers. He isn't in the mock drafts for a reason, do you think they don't know about him lol. He also is short for the league, he's not a center and he can't play the 4 there because he can't shoot.
He's a wonderful college stud but he ain't no leaguer. It's fine if you think so though.
 

sa_hunt

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IMHO Oscar is a nba first round player. With his improvement the short time he has been at uk he has improved leaps and bounds from where he was. His motor is unreal and he can guard 1 thru 5. Anyone remember D. Rodman
Dear Lord, Comparing Oscar to Rodman is flat out comical.
 

sa_hunt

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Definitely agree with him needing to improve his handling and shooting.. but as much as I’d want it to, it doesn’t necessarily need to be at UK. Along with his natural abilities and size/strength, His basketball IQ and ability to read the play and the ball on missed shots are enough to give him a shot in the NBA. Add his footwork and the touch on his shot he has a lot of NBA potential, especially as he develops a 3 ball. The fallacy that you have to be an above the rim player in the modern NBA needs to go. Big men that can’t shoot and only play above the rim are fading out.
He may not be an NBA star, but it the most NBA centers aren’t in the NBA for their above the rim play.
Oscar couldn't even get a shot off in the league. Come back to reality. He has trouble getting blocked by the rim and often takes 10 seconds to try and get his shot off in college, he's a dead man in the paint in the NBA. But if you think different that's ok.
 

sa_hunt

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I'm so thankful I'm not an NBA owner or GM and even more thankful that a lot of guys aren't my scouts for my team.
 

sa_hunt

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I know this wasn't directed at me, but judging off your comments, especially the response to @DerekMcPwn , you don't watch the NBA. So I'd love to take the bet if you're willing. I'm pretty sure most owners are thankful you don't scout for them either
Absolutely. What's the wager? I watch the NBA all the time, Oscar may get him a 10 day contract or something but he's an overseas guy. I'll bet ya anything you wanna bet he's not a first rounder.
 
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sa_hunt

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Definitely agree with him needing to improve his handling and shooting.. but as much as I’d want it to, it doesn’t necessarily need to be at UK. Along with his natural abilities and size/strength, His basketball IQ and ability to read the play and the ball on missed shots are enough to give him a shot in the NBA. Add his footwork and the touch on his shot he has a lot of NBA potential, especially as he develops a 3 ball. The fallacy that you have to be an above the rim player in the modern NBA needs to go. Big men that can’t shoot and only play above the rim are fading out.
He may not be an NBA star, but it the most NBA centers aren’t in the NBA for their above the rim play.
Develops a 3 ball????? hahahahahahahahahahaeahaha. I'm sorry but that statement is all I need to know about your basketball knowledge.