OT: 10 years $700,000,000 Ohtani to Dodgers

yesrutgers01

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He would have to. There’s no way they would be able to put more pieces around him. Dodger for life.
Agree- I don't think he gets 70 from anyone without doing this. I also think the whole Toronto this was to drive that price up...
Though, was finding it interesting that Ohtani didn't want "East Coast" but Toronto was ok...
 

RUPete

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I am hoping Pete is strictly talking that there was no way in a baseball sense that Hampton/Wright would come out of it when they made the deal- as the business move, as you and I are trying to point out, was a huge business move and smart as all heck
Yes, that was my point initially.
 
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RU Cheese

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680/700 is deferred. Present value is about 44M per year. Also lets him avoid CA tax if he leaves in 2034. Incredible deal by both sides?
 
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What if he moves back to Japan in 2034? Does that mean he avoids US federal tax on $680mm also?
 

T2Kplus20

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680/700 is deferred. Present value is about 44M per year. Also lets him avoid CA tax if he leaves in 2034. Incredible deal by both sides?
So, this is really a 10y $440m contract. The $700m number is complete and utter BS.
 
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T2Kplus20

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I mean he still gets paid $700 million but it's just over a longer period of time.
Not over 10 years. So the contract is either:

A: 10 years $440m (real value)
B: 30 years $700m (nominal value)
 

Zak57

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Not over 10 years. So the contract is either:

A: 10 years $440m (real value)
B: 30 years $700m (nominal value)
Correct it's over 20 years but at the end of the day he's still getting $700 million in cash guaranteed.

The CBT calculation isn't what will actually be paid to Ohtani.
 

WhiteBus

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Correct it's over 20 years but at the end of the day he's still getting $700 million in cash guaranteed.

The CBT calculation isn't what will actually be paid to Ohtani.
Disagree. It's like powerball payouts. You take the cash or you take payments over 30 years. Nobody takes the 30 years option for a reason.
I hate when the media says we will have new billionaire if somebody wins the billion dollar jackpot. In neither scenario nobody is becoming an instant billionaire.
Ohtani is doing this for tax reasons as he is losing his option of reinvesting his money.
 

Zak57

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Disagree. It's like powerball payouts. You take the cash or you take payments over 30 years. Nobody takes the 30 years option for a reason.
I hate when the media says we will have new billionaire if somebody wins the billion dollar jackpot. In neither scenario nobody is becoming an instant billionaire.
Ohtani is doing this for tax reasons as he is losing his option of reinvesting his money.
Right except he's still getting $50 million a year from off the field guarantees as well so can push that money back. People who win powerball don't have that luxury and end up getting less cash overall to get it up front. I understand the calculations of future cash versus present cash but my main point to T2K was Ohtani is actually getting $700 million at the end of day. I could be wrong but I thought he thinks the CBT amount added up will be the actual payout when it's not.
 
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T2Kplus20

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Correct it's over 20 years but at the end of the day he's still getting $700 million in cash guaranteed.

The CBT calculation isn't what will actually be paid to Ohtani.
Yup, sorry, 20 years not 30 years.
 

Colbert17!

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MLB salaries have reached the insane level.
What does Soto ask for now next year?
How long until someone gets a billion dollar contract?
 
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MLB salaries have reached the insane level.
What does Soto ask for now next year?
How long until someone gets a billion dollar contract?
Soto will break someone's bank.There will be no hometown discount. Only fools would think a one year contract would warrant a hometown discount.Glad the Mets didn't trade several players for a shot at signing Soto.
 

RUhasarrived

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This guy is nothing special.
His combined batting and pitching wins add to a mere 19.5.
Babe Ruth was the second best pitcher in the game,just behind Walter Johnson,when he vacated his mound duties.
It's possible that Don Newcombe could have accomplished just as much as has Ohtani had the DH been available.
Support the Jersey guy.
 
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Yeah all well and good, but can we agree that he was a disappointment on the field?
You know, if you look back he actually wasn't a disappointment. His 1st season wasn't great, 2nd and 3rd were good and he did well for the Mets in his 4th until they traded him.
The deferred contract wasn't even from his original contract and wasn't something the Mets signed him to, the 2nd time around was a disaster but that deferral was not and is not something that was unusual at all in baseball. Bruce Sutter until a few years ago was getting $1 million a year from the Braves, he last pitched for them in 1988.
 

RAC93

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Also look at Tatis, Soto, Machado.
Got the Padres all the way up to 82-80

The Padres are a Mickey Mouse organization. Dodgers are a well run organization with a perennial strong farm system that has made 14 straight playoff appearances. They’re not the Padres.
 

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The Padres are a Mickey Mouse organization. Dodgers are a well run organization with a perennial strong farm system that has made 14 straight playoff appearances. They’re not the Padres.
Not sure if you read my post correctly. My implication was that they spent all that money and only won 82 games. Padres have one of the worse GMs in the game who just likes to read his name in the papers. People will point to the Tatis trade as a steal, which it was, but there are multiple instances of him trading young players who become solid major leaguers, some even All Stars, for next to nothing.
Hoping with the passing of their owner some changes can be made.
 
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RAC93

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Not sure if you read my post correctly. My implication was that they spent all that money and only won 82 games.

Correct, fully understood the post. The Dodgers make better decisions and set themselves up for success better than the padres. Just because the Padres spent a boatload and it did not work does not mean the same for the Dodgers. In fact, based upon their history of success, it is likely to work for the Dodgers even though it didn’t work for the Padres.
 

Colbert17!

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Correct, fully understood the post. The Dodgers make better decisions and set themselves up for success better than the padres. Just because the Padres spent a boatload and it did not work does not mean the same for the Dodgers. In fact, based upon their history of success, it is likely to work for the Dodgers even though it didn’t work for the Padres.
Oh I think the Dodgers will be very, very successful as they've always been. The Doidgers are the gold standard for baseball organizations.
A former high school team mate of mine was a minor leage manager for the Dodgers for about 10 years. Always told me stories about how impressive the organization was.
 
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From the Dodgers perspective, just think how much licensed swag is going to be sold in baseball crazy Japan alone. They may make $100m per year, which could cover the new salaries.
 

Doctor Worm

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From the Dodgers perspective, just think how much licensed swag is going to be sold in baseball crazy Japan alone. They may make $100m per year, which could cover the new salaries.
All 30 teams split the revenue from sales of licensed merchandise equally. The only exception I know of is that the home team gets to keep all revenue from merchandise sold in its own stadium.

Perhaps it is different for international sales?