If you done business with them, you would know it’s not a PR thing. It needs to self sustaining. Otherwise, they will pull the plug.
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This isn't a business. This is a PR thing. You work with their government?
Is the field determined by world ranking? If so, it’s earned. That’s a big difference than LIV.
Recent actions have already shown that the Saudi's aren't happy with what's going on and already taking steps to cut costs. One, the Saudi's are no longer just paying for travel, etc. Those expenses have to come out of the winnings already set aside. Two, the COO and some other execs were asked to leave given LIVs struggles. The PIF governor even admitted they thought LIV would be further along than it was. All these show that the Saudi's won't pay for this forever. At some point, this model has to generate revenue.
And yet, the PIF governor came out and publicly stated that they were disappointed in LIV results after one year. They then pushed out the COO and a few other prominent members of the leadership team in December due to results. It's now been reported the fund is no longer just going to cover all travel costs, those costs now have to be born by the teams through their own winnings.
Sure, there was a white washing aspect to this but there is no way the Saudis are going to throw millions and millions down a toilet forever. LIV has to become somewhat self sustainable or they will pull the plug. The fund's actions over the last few months indicate that.
I caught one of the golf beat writers talking about the biggest issue facing LIV has really nothing to do with LIV or the PGA Tour. It's the fans. There are very few fans that religiously watch golf each and every weekend. Most tune in for the name events, majors. There's just golf burnout for some fans in the sense that there is only so much golf one wants to watch. I think many in this thread are like that - will tune in for the majors, may watch the bigger name events like Memorial, Players, Arnie Palmer and then pretty much ignore the others.
LIV knows it can't compete with the majors and can't compete with the now designated events, such as this weekend's Arnie Palmer. The fields are just too strong. So they schedule around those events to match up against the lower PGA events. But they might just be suffering from what he said is golf fan burnout - there's only so many weeks in a year that people want to watch golf.
LIV knows it can't compete with the majors and can't compete with the now designated events, such as this weekend's Arnie Palmer. The fields are just too strong. So they schedule around those events to match up against the lower PGA events. But they might just be suffering from what he said is golf fan burnout - there's only so many weeks in a year that people want to watch golf.
No he called the no cuts a joke. Obviously he is against the Saudis but he was also against anything LIV.
First using rankings is insanely stupid. Golf ranking are based on the past 2 years. You win, get a couple top 10s 2 years ago your golden. Plus they can't use it, it would eliminate Tiger.
I believe there are 4 sponsor exemptions but they have to go to PGA tour players (no celebrities).
Can also be interpreted as "if tiger wants to play, he plays".
In the WGC events there were no exemptions. I don't see that changing because you are knocking out people that actually earned it. Besides Tiger just want to play the majors
Tiger shouldn’t be playing in these. Should go to guys that have earned it. Otherwise, it’s LIV 2.0
Maybe had problems adjusting to the strong, gusty winds?
I saw a vid of Rickey Fowler's ball get blown several feet just as he was about to putt.
Heard about this on a podcast this week, they were calling it the tiger exemption. There are 4.
https://golf.com/news/2024-designated-events-reduced-fields/
There will also be opportunities for golfers not already eligible to play their way into these designated events. For example, the Tour will space out its designated events and full-field events, and the top-five players who earn the most FedEx Cup points in the tournaments between the designated events will earn spots in the next designated event. A win during the 2024 season is also an automatic promotion to the designated events. The final spots in those fields will be made up of PGA Tour members in the top 30 of the Official World Golf Ranking, plus four sponsor exemptions for Tour members.
Which is funny. Tiger isn't playing in 15 PGA events a year. Even the LIV golfers play more events then he does.
Isn't that how Chris Gotterup got to play in a few of his Tour events?
Yes. It was like 4 or 5. Maybe more right?
The problem that @jtung230 ignores is that there has been sponsor exemptions in regular tour events but none in the majors, WGC and any other short field no cut tournaments. Letting Tiger play in these big money events is kind of a joke. Yes he is popular, yes he draws eyes to the TV and fans to the event but you can't say he has earned it. His ranking is so high he would be lower then most all Korn Ferry Tour players. Tiger is over 200 places behind Chris Gotterup
Tiger gets a lot of free rides if he wanted. But Tiger is not looking for free rides these days.
Huh?? He and Rory came up with this plan. Tiger will play the 4 majors. These big money no cut events and Riveria. They also will be the lead of simulation events , made for TV, where guys can play from all over the world at the same time
yes, they came up with the plan to protect the PGA. Tiger Is not going to swayed by money. He will play the simulation thing but that’s not real golf and it doesn’t require walking. Do you think Tiger will play in events just because big money and no cuts?
Absolutely. He is avoiding the little money events but will play in the big money events. My god do you really think he is only playing for the benefit of the PGA?? That's a very dumb stance!
Protect the PGA??
Guess the Players is a little money event. How much did Tiger turned down to join LIV? Do you think Tiger can earn enough money from playing golf to beat the LIV offer?
Tiger didn’t want to join LIV since he’s already sports washing for.Nike. 
. He is not giving up that Nike contract. Plus he would not be able to only wear the Nike logo on his shirt ( like DJ and Adidas).
Real reason is that he can’t even play the number of LIV events that are required.
. He is not giving up that Nike contract. Plus he would not be able to only wear the Nike logo on his shirt ( like DJ and Adidas). Real reason is that he can’t even play the number of LIV events that are required.
Tiger is god to some on here. They play dumb or they are dumb with the recent comments from them.Tiger didn’t want to join LIV since he’s already sports washing for.Nike.
Real reason is that he can’t even play the number of LIV events that are required.
Back to this tournament. This was a great story about a sleepless night by a club pro and the 7 players who had a sleepless night because of what he might do Saturday morning.