OT: A Baseball Oddity

Doctor Worm

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I saw that play. It was explained later that it is illegal. The runner should have been called out. Given that it was not, the Mets should have challenged the play and it would have been reversed on review.

You can't carry something (helmet, batting gloves, etc.) and use it as an extension of yourself as you run the bases. If you could, baserunners would do it all the time.
 

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I saw that play. It was explained later that it is illegal. The runner should have been called out. Given that it was not, the Mets should have challenged the play and it would have been reversed on review.

You can't carry something (helmet, batting gloves, etc.) and use it as an extension of yourself as you run the bases. If you could, baserunners would do it all the time.
Thought it was interesting that the guy brought up the base running oven mitts. Is there a limit on how big they can be?
 
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Here's a Baseball Oddity question:

What current star player hit a MLB home run five days before he made his MLB debut?
 

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Very good. Juan Soto was five days away from premiering in the majors when on May 15, 2018 the Yankees played the Nationals to a 3-3 game suspended and completed on June 18, 2024. Soto hit a two run homer for a 5-3 Nationals win in June (his 6th homer of the season by then). However, all the stats of the 5-3 win go back to the original start date of the game - May 15. So Soto's home run gets put into the books as techincally happening five days before he made his major league debut.
 

Doctor Worm

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A baseball oddity occured in today's Mets game. Marlins runner tries to steal second. However, he mistimes his jump and takes off too early. The pitcher steps off, throws to second, and the runner is tagged out.

What is the official scoring?

It is officially recorded as a caught stealing, which I guess makes sense. But under the official scoring rules, the catcher must be credited with an assist! Even though he never threw the ball, nor even touched the ball.

The significance is that Omar Narvaez was working on an oh-fer in terms of throwing out runners attempting to steal. He was 0 for 32 for the season. Thanks to this scoring oddity, the streak is broken.
 
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A baseball oddity occured in today's Mets game. Marlins runner tries to steal second. However, he mistimes his jump and takes off too early. The pitcher steps off, throws to second, and the runner is tagged out.

What is the official scoring?

It is officially recorded as a caught stealing, which I guess makes sense. But under the official scoring rules, the catcher must be credited with an assist! Even though he never threw the ball, nor even touched the ball.

The significance is that Omar Narvaez was working on an oh-fer in terms of throwing out runners attempting to steal. He was 0 for 32 for the season. Thanks to this scoring oddity, the streak is broken.
I don’t believe that😊worm
The same play occurs often when the runner attempts to get a great jump only the pickoff move is to first, a few guys in my day would still beat the subsequent throw to second by the 1st basemen… Vince Coleman, Tim Raines to name two.
If the throw was on time, why wouldn’t the Catcher be credited in that situation?
 

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I don’t believe that😊worm
The same play occurs often when the runner attempts to get a great jump only the pickoff move is to first, a few guys in my day would still beat the subsequent throw to second by the 1st basemen… Vince Coleman, Tim Raines to name two.
If the throw was on time, why wouldn’t the Catcher be credited in that situation?
Yeah it makes no sense. However, Gary did strongly state on the broadcast that when a pitcher directly throws the runner out at second, the catcher gets the credit. Just for giggles, I checked Narvaez's stats on Baseball Reference. He now has credit for one caught stealing. So I guess it's right.
 

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Yeah it makes no sense. However, Gary did strongly state on the broadcast that when a pitcher directly throws the runner out at second, the catcher gets the credit. Just for giggles, I checked Narvaez's stats on Baseball Reference. He now has credit for one caught stealing. So I guess it's right.
Insanity!
If the 2nd baseman or SS dropped the ball and the official scorer deemed it an error, they should give it to the catcher😊
 

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Thought this was interesting.
Only one player in MLB history has recorded his 3000th hit outside of the US. Who is it?