OT - A Scholarly Debate at Hartfield

skip dog

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So, in that second video, that is an Oak Forest parent that walks all the way across the floor to the HArtfield side......
 

skip dog

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I haven’t been in many HS gyms lately, but are students normally close to the end line?
I don't know....but that would appear to be a mistake waiting to happen. I know I have been at MRA and they park a coach (or dean of students) in front of the student section at end of court, and they allow them to be students **up to a point**

All I can say is that there are alot of folk on the wrong side of wrong best I can tell.

Hartfield parents should have stayed composed b/c if you have been in private school sports long enough around here, on would know that Oak Forest parents are going to do Oak Forest Louisiana kinda things (**such as throw stuff @ buses, cause referees to need police escorts to get away, etc.....)
 

biodawg

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Hartfield parents should have stayed composed b/c if you have been in private school sports long enough around here, on would know that Oak Forest parents are going to do Oak Forest Louisiana kinda things (**such as throw stuff @ buses, cause referees to need police escorts to get away, etc.....)
Lol. Not Oak Forest, but not too far away. Our football team had to be escorted by the local Sheriff’s Dept from their field to our locker room/bus at Silliman once. We just went in the locker room, got our stuff, and got out of town, all with full pads/helmet still on. The coaches let us take our helmet and pads off once we got off campus.
 

Wesson Bulldog

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Lol. Not Oak Forest, but not too far away. Our football team had to be escorted by the local Sheriff’s Dept from their field to our locker room/bus at Silliman once. We just went in the locker room, got our stuff, and got out of town, all with full pads/helmet still on. The coaches let us take our helmet and pads off once we got off campus.
Ive officiated at Sill8man and Oak Forest many times. I personally have never had issues, but I know several officials who have.
 
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Now yall see why Hartfield wants to stay MAIS. All about beating up on lesser advantaged teams.
 

Puppers

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I've seen fans kicked out of 7 year old baseball, 8 year old softball, and HS football all in the last year. Its starting to make me dislike sports.
 

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I tell my boys all the time…..testosterone makes you stupid.

How embarrassing. Those poor kids that tried to intervene and make GROWN MEN stop acting like toddlers.
I don’t know….natural T calms you down. It’s the surge that makes you do dumb stuff. Remember it’s the dads that are fighting.

Obviously uncontrolled T in teenagers (without dads) also isn’t good. But that’s not the case in MS academy ball 90% of the time.
 

dorndawg

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Lol. Not Oak Forest, but not too far away. Our football team had to be escorted by the local Sheriff’s Dept from their field to our locker room/bus at Silliman once. We just went in the locker room, got our stuff, and got out of town, all with full pads/helmet still on. The coaches let us take our helmet and pads off once we got off campus.
It’s been decades since I’ve been there but I always got weird vibes at Silliman.
 

lanceharbor7

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Lol. Not Oak Forest, but not too far away. Our football team had to be escorted by the local Sheriff’s Dept from their field to our locker room/bus at Silliman once. We just went in the locker room, got our stuff, and got out of town, all with full pads/helmet still on. The coaches let us take our helmet and pads off once we got off campus.
My vanity won't let me say how long ago this was(I was in high school on the basketball team), but walking into Oak Forrest for a basketball game I remarked how crappy the gym was and the ticket lady in an angry tirade tried to kick me out before I got into the gym. They had those terrible 60s clay tile floors.
 

SteelCurtain74

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My vanity won't let me say how long ago this was(I was in high school on the basketball team), but walking into Oak Forrest for a basketball game I remarked how crappy the gym was and the ticket lady in an angry tirade tried to kick me out before I got into the gym. They had those terrible 60s clay tile floors.
Would it have been early 90's? I only played there once and it was a tile floor. Our locker room amounted to what could be considered a janitors closet. I also remember we were advised to put our wallets and valuables in a zip lock bag so our assistant coach could keep them on the bench.

I went down there last year to watch my son play and was expecting to have to fight my way out. Definitely a different vibe down there (add Silliman to that feeling well).
 

lanceharbor7

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Would it have been early 90's? I only played there once and it was a tile floor. Our locker room amounted to what could be considered a janitors closet. I also remember we were advised to put our wallets and valuables in a zip lock bag so our assistant coach could keep them on the bench.

I went down there last year to watch my son play and was expecting to have to fight my way out. Definitely a different vibe down there (add Silliman to that feeling well).
100%
 

johnson86-1

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one of the comments mentioned "new money" in regards to Hartfield. It reminds me of a saying a former co-worker had, "the first generation out of the trailer park is the worst."
Man, that rings true, except I would say it's bimodal. Lots of them are the best, and you can understand exactly how they made it out. But yeah, lots of them are the worst.
 

johnson86-1

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I've seen fans kicked out of 7 year old baseball, 8 year old softball, and HS football all in the last year. Its starting to make me dislike sports.
I know people showed their *** about youth sports when I was younger, but I cannot believe it was as bad as it is now. Somehow youth sports is where people decide to be the worst version of themselves.
 

615dawg

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Terrible situation. People are too invested in sports sometimes.

From the JJ comments:

The Oak Forest player's mother had recently died, and the Hartfield students were heckling about it. Yes - his dead mother. This is yet another example of Hartfield being a low class place with poor leadership.
 

greenbean.sixpack

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Terrible situation. People are too invested in sports sometimes.

From the JJ comments:

The Oak Forest player's mother had recently died, and the Hartfield students were heckling about it. Yes - his dead mother. This is yet another example of Hartfield being a low class place with poor leadership.
There are many commenters on FB who say that is not true, but who knows?
 

onewoof

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Culture rot
These people need help
always the usual suspects of this thug gang mentality, we need metal detectors and mental detectors now, this is why flowood is no longer safe to visit
 

615dawg

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Got the story for anyone interested.

1. There was no "making fun of kid's dead mother"

2. Student section was ribbing Oak Forest players pretty good. Nothing out of line but giving them hell. One particular player for OFA was mouthing back at them when Hartfield had a significant lead at the end of the game.

3. A parent from OFA (may have been that player's parent - my source did not know for sure) took offense and found someone willing to engage in a debate.


Both the OFA and Hartfield parent will likely not see their kids play the rest of the year.
 
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greenbean.sixpack

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One issue, of many, is that today's refs don't shut stuff like that down early. It seems like 30/40 years ago, refs didn't put with this type of tomfoolery.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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What does any of this have to do with that OM player that liked to stick his finger in other players' bums?
I still find it incredibly incompetent (even by Clarion Ledger standards) that not one reporter in the mainstream Mississippi print media acknowledged this incident while this fine young man was playing football at Ole Miss.

Myles (stinky finger) Hartsfield
 
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paindonthurt

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Lol. Not Oak Forest, but not too far away. Our football team had to be escorted by the local Sheriff’s Dept from their field to our locker room/bus at Silliman once. We just went in the locker room, got our stuff, and got out of town, all with full pads/helmet still on. The coaches let us take our helmet and pads off once we got off campus.
Sillliman is way worse than anything 95% other schools could ever imagine.

I grew up about 35 minutes north of clinton. They aren't exactly what i'd call "rough" but they dang sure a little crazy.
 

paindonthurt

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This was a while ago, 2002 IIRC. Maybe they’ve gotten better since then, maybe they haven’t. Pretty funny looking back on it, though.
They haven't! I graduated at Amite School Center in 2001.

About 3 or 4 years ago there was a fight between Brookhaven Academy (i think) and silliman at a basketball game.
 

paindonthurt

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Terrible situation. People are too invested in sports sometimes.

From the JJ comments:

The Oak Forest player's mother had recently died, and the Hartfield students were heckling about it. Yes - his dead mother. This is yet another example of Hartfield being a low class place with poor leadership.
You don't know if this is true or not though.
 
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