OT: Active shooter, UNC

Mikemarc

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Ugh.

Reports a person is in custody, but unconfirmed report he was let go as it was the wrong person.
 

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Suspect in custody. Grad student.

WRAL says a person is in custody but no idea if it’s the suspect. They had originally ID’d him as the shooter but now just say he’s a “person”

Though schools in the area have been given the all clear so does seem like he’s the guy…though not confirmed
 

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WRAL says a person is in custody but no idea if it’s the suspect. They had originally ID’d him as the shooter but now just say he’s a “person”

Though schools in the area have been given the all clear so does seem like he’s the guy…though not confirmed
"Live" coverage is communicating a confirmation that the suspect is in custody. UNC grad student named Tailei Qi.
 

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"Live" coverage is communicating a confirmation that the suspect is in custody. UNC grad student named Tailei Qi.
I've seen that. I'm curious to see how this shakes out.

Seems like a lot of details are being withheld by the authorities. I'm curious who was shot, how many, and what led the police to the guy they have in custody. I feel like there's a lot we don't yet know - and maybe the cops don't yet know either.

I sure hope it's over and they have the right person. What a ****** way to start the school year for the students and faculty there.
 
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Shooting inside Caudill Laboratory. Faculty member shot and confirmed fatality.
The reporting on this stuff has been awful, at least the written reporting (haven't been watching live reporting).

I saw your post, went online and it's not at all clear if there's a NEW shooting inside Caudill Lab, or if this is additional reporting on what happened earlier today. Is very ambiguous.

It's really not that hard for media outlets to be less ambiguous about this stuff.

Edit: After a bunch of reading and visiting different sites, it became more clear that the Caudill Lab thing was from earlier reporting. But websites are doing this thing where they keep earlier headlines but add updates as they come in (without changing the original headlines). So the stories appear minutes ago, but have headlines from hours ago.

Not good.
 
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The reporting on this stuff has been awful, at least the written reporting (haven't been watching live reporting).

I saw your post, went online and it's not at all clear if there's a NEW shooting inside Caudill Lab, or if this is additional reporting on what happened earlier today. Is very ambiguous.

It's really not that hard for media outlets to be less ambiguous about this stuff.
Sure enough.... Real life isn't neat and clear. I've been involved firsthand in a number of incidents over the years. Reporters do their best. But the "fog of war" and acts of violence. Authorities have their priority and it's not the media.

Anyways, this appears to be the isolated situation: one shooting of a faculty member inside the lab by a grad student.
 

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Sure enough.... Real life isn't neat and clear. I've been involved firsthand in a number of incidents over the years. Reporters do their best. But the "fog of war" and acts of violence. Authorities have their priority and it's not the media.

Anyways, this appears to be the isolated situation: one shooting of a faculty member inside the lab by a grad student.
I think media outlets need to alter headlines, at least, if not produce new articles w/different dates/times. Otherwise, web search engines like Google are screwed in trying to present timely updates and the public becomes confused.

It'll get better, I'm sure. Would be enormously frustrating as a parent of a UNC student today, though.

For the most part, I have no problem with LE being careful and very deliberate with what info they release. Although I think sometimes they prioritize catching and convicting someone over protecting innocents in the area - and I think that ain't right.

It's starting to look like this was not a mass shooting event so much as a specific gun violence incident with a specific target in mind. Still sucks, and it's not certain yet what the motive or intent was. Gotta wait to see what the investigation will reveal.
 

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I think media outlets need to alter headlines, at least, if not produce new articles w/different dates/times. Otherwise, web search engines like Google are screwed in trying to present timely updates and the public becomes confused.

It'll get better, I'm sure. Would be enormously frustrating as a parent of a UNC student today, though.

For the most part, I have no problem with LE being careful and very deliberate with what info they release. Although I think sometimes they prioritize catching and convicting someone over protecting innocents in the area - and I think that ain't right.

It's starting to look like this was not a mass shooting event so much as a specific gun violence incident with a specific target in mind. Still sucks, and it's not certain yet what the motive or intent was. Gotta wait to see what the investigation will reveal.

Headlines are for clicks and eyeballs. Accuracy is of secondary importance.
 

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I’m failing to understand what the big problem is with “mostly white asian”. I mean, I’m looking at him and he is, in fact, mostly but not entirely white and Asian. If he were from India, there’s a decent chance he‘d be a mostly brown Asian.

If you need to describe him to people, say what to be on the lookout for, mostly white asian is a good description. Asian is not specific enough. And most Americans suck at distinguishing between different Asian nationalities, so saying Chinese is also less helpful than mostly white Asian.
 

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It’s fake, guys. Lol
and it was a "false flag" thing done on X (twitter) by a self-proclaimed investigative journalist who focuses on QAnon. story link

his twitter account seems pro-conservative.. but this last thing seems counter to that.. weird. I did not see anything Qanon in his recent tweets... not that I am an expert. The left sometime likes to slap Qanon, and now mega-maga, on opinions that challenge them.
 
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and it was a "false flag" thing done on X (twitter) by a leftist self-proclaimed investigative journalist who focuses on QAnon. story link

It’s pretty sad how many people fell for it…on this board, on twitter, etc. I knew if was clearly fake the minute I saw as FOX lowers look nothing like that.

Such is another issue with social media..people believing everything they read.
 
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I’m failing to understand what the big problem is with “mostly white asian”. I mean, I’m looking at him and he is, in fact, mostly but not entirely white and Asian. If he were from India, there’s a decent chance he‘d be a mostly brown Asian.

If you need to describe him to people, say what to be on the lookout for, mostly white asian is a good description. Asian is not specific enough. And most Americans suck at distinguishing between different Asian nationalities, so saying Chinese is also less helpful than mostly white Asian.
BTS Asian
 

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It’s pretty sad how many people fell for it…on this board, on twitter, etc. I knew if was clearly fake the minute I saw as FOX lowers look nothing like that.

Such is another issue with social media..people believing everything they read.
I assumed "leftist" based on the story I linked.. poorly worded.. but his tweets say otherwise. I changed my post. It is weird. I do not get teh logic of some someone who thinks himself on teh political right to post an image like that. What was the point?

Now.. if someone wanted to make FocNews look awful.. like they got suckered into someone telling them the shooter description was "mostly white asian male"....

hhmmm.. maybe the twitter guy who did this is 100% asian and has a thing about people who are half-caucasian asians? (assuming teh shooter might be such?)
 
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