OT: Amazing just how stupid Johnny Manziel is

Crazed_RU

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Honestly - could any one individual possibly squander natural talent more than this clown.

Isn't he the one that tweeted how he was going to wreck the NFL when he got drafted??
 
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RUMBA-JK

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Stupid? oh yeah ... and he thinks he is so smart - so smart that he thinks he can be clever enough to continue to lead the lifestyle that got him in trouble - but he is wrong - and is only clever enough to fool himself. Not sure what it will take to open his eye to the reality that the battle to hang on to his football career is only a small part of the real fight that he is in - he has his whole life pushed out there on the ledge and it is hanging off the edge in a pretty precarious manner. If it came out that he had cheated through the whole detox program - it would not be a surprise. It is pretty clear that he needs to get committed to cleaning up (all the way) - or this is going to be a long & ugly story.
People will point at him and whisper - "Do you know who he used to be?"
 

saran

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Cleveland is a dump - one of worst teams in Super Bowl era. Whatever Manziel is doing to risk ejection from Cleveland he should keep doing it.
 

Saint Puppy

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Browns were dumb - guy had a larger than life persona - they drafted him thinking he was going to tone it down. It's like going into a relationship and thinking you can change someone - maybe happens for a little, and maybe over the long haul somebody will change, but you should never go in expecting. Browns got exactly what they bought. Btw still think he has a ton of potetnial, but also think it's not going to happen for him in Cleveland.
 

RUaMoose_rivals

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The Browns are just as stupid for drafting him in the first round. They knew what they were getting themselves into that is why 21 other teams said no thanks. Oh, and he sucks btw.

They have a habit of overreaching for QBs in the first round always dreaming about the next Bernie Kosar or Brian Sipe. Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Manziel and there's probably more im missing.
 

Knight Shift

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RUDave_01

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Johnny Manziel is incredibly close to throwing his life (and not just his football career) away.

The police report (on TMZ) from his incident with his girlfriend paints an ugly picture of him (though certainly she is no angel herself). The incident sounds like the early stages of domestic violence. I hope that's not the case.

Maziel may need to be completely humiliated if he is going to commit to changing the way he behaves and thinks.
 

bitnez

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He actually doesn't suck. In fact, he has played pretty well and has made dramatic improvement this year.
 
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The guys a millionaire with and without football. He's proven that he can actually move the ball in The NFL. Do you guys think he and his agent may just want out at Cleavland?
 

krup

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The guys a millionaire with and without football. He's proven that he can actually move the ball in The NFL. Do you guys think he and his agent may just want out at Cleavland?
He hasn't "proven that he can actually move the ball in The NFL" nearly enough to make up for the negative impacts of the stories about his behavior. He MIGHT get a chance with another team, but it is no certainty.
 

Knight Shift

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I guess times really have changed. Wasn't Joe Namath and his on field performance and off field antics the stuff of legend?
“…The night before the Oakland game I grabbed a girl and a bottle and went to the Summit Hotel and stayed in bed all night…Same thing before the Super Bowl. It's good for you…”

http://nymag.com/news/sports/50144/


 

RUich

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Namath was a very different time. It is kind of ironic that with as free and easy this world seems in many ways today, it is also a glass house for high profile stars. Today's contracts have a lot of clauses that give the teams multiple exits if the guy doesn't toe certain lines.
One of the biggest reasons GS had so many problems in the NFL was that he tried to treat those players like college kids.
 

Knight Shift

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Namath was a very different time. It is kind of ironic that with as free and easy this world seems in many ways today, it is also a glass house for high profile stars. Today's contracts have a lot of clauses that give the teams multiple exits if the guy doesn't toe certain lines.
One of the biggest reasons GS had so many problems in the NFL was that he tried to treat those players like college kids.
Different times indeed. I don't drink. But that's my choice. Maybe Johnny Manziel has a problem and needs help. But if he does his job on the field (which is questionable), what's the problem if he wants to go out, get drunk and have some fun with young women? Isn't that one of the reasons young men aspire to be athletes (or rock stars)? Isn't it his choice?
 

krup

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Different times indeed. I don't drink. But that's my choice. Maybe Johnny Manziel has a problem and needs help. But if he does his job on the field (which is questionable), what's the problem if he wants to go out, get drunk and have some fun with young women? Isn't that one of the reasons young men aspire to be athletes (or rock stars)? Isn't it his choice?
As someone mentioned above, it is not just his drinking that will end his NFL career, it is that his drinking was already cited in a domestic incident with his girlfriend. The NFL has shown us with the Hardy/Peterson/Rice stories that they will forgive anything if you are good enough, but Manziel hasn't shown anywhere near the amount of success that would make most teams want to pick him up if released.
 

MGSA99

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I guess times really have changed. Wasn't Joe Namath and his on field performance and off field antics the stuff of legend?
“…The night before the Oakland game I grabbed a girl and a bottle and went to the Summit Hotel and stayed in bed all night…Same thing before the Super Bowl. It's good for you…”

http://nymag.com/news/sports/50144/


Namath won games. That is the difference. Winning cures everything.
 

Knightmoves

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Johnny just likes to party all the time, party all the time, party all the time....

Hasn't he been to Rehab once already ? I sense that he can't lay off the sauce and needs to go again.

Cleveland should cut him. He is worthless as an NFL QB.
 

RU from Jersey_rivals

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With everything that has gone on in Cleveland can you imagine all of the stuff that was covered up at Texas A&M just to keep him eligible.
 

R house

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I guess times really have changed. Wasn't Joe Namath and his on field performance and off field antics the stuff of legend?
“…The night before the Oakland game I grabbed a girl and a bottle and went to the Summit Hotel and stayed in bed all night…Same thing before the Super Bowl. It's good for you…”

http://nymag.com/news/sports/50144/




No one seemed to have a problem with Micky Mantle and his crew back in the day.
 

srru86

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The Browns are just as stupid for drafting him in the first round. They knew what they were getting themselves into that is why 21 other teams said no thanks. Oh, and he sucks btw.

It astounds me when professional talent elevators buy into the ESPN/Baltimore car salesman hype and draft these sorts of guys.
 

Mikemarc

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Manziel isn't any different than most other NFL players. You don't the majority of NFL players party on their off weeks?

It's just that with Manziel's history..the microscope is much larger on him.
 

RU31trap

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Johnny is a product of his environment and no matter how much he's browbeaten, insulted or ridiculed it's not enough to change his behavior. In the end it will take a sad event to straighten out his behavior. Yes Joe Namath (sp) was a partying animal but I believe he won a NC at Alabama and Super Bowl with the Jets. They suffered from they same illness but were two totally different patients. One more thing about the ladies in those pics, what was perceived to be a pig in 1970 qualifies as a Sunday school choir girl today. Big big difference!!
 
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