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Whether we admit it or not the excessive amount of alcohol, marijuana and drugs may seem like not a big thing but it will become worse in the next 5-10 years. . If we are all being somewhat honest here it should be a big concern especially those with children and grand children. Seems great to many but take a good look around and see if it really is .

teen drinking has been a thing for decades and most of us all seem to grow up OK. Its up to the parents to make sure their kids are not going overboard in that regard.
 

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I wonder if this is legal because, as @NotInRHouse says, federal law bars the interstate transport of marijuana and so requires that weed sold in a state have been grown in that state. (In other words, the fact that the product comes from legal dispensaries may not protect it from the bar on interstate transport.)
Federal law also bars the distribution of controlled substances regardless of where it is grown (which, in it of itself is also barred by federal law). Manufacture, distribution, possession ... it's all illegal under federal law.
 

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My wife and her brother just left the house to buy edibles for their mother, who turns 98 in two days.

her doctor recommended it
My grandmother turns 87 today and she used to be on all sorts of pills which seemed like many of them were just to treat the side effects of the other pills. Now she takes edibles and since they have no side effects, she no longer takes any pills.
 

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Whether we admit it or not the excessive amount of alcohol, marijuana and drugs may seem like not a big thing but it will become worse in the next 5-10 years. . If we are all being somewhat honest here it should be a big concern especially those with children and grand children. Seems great to many but take a good look around and see if it really is .
Take a look at the morbid obesity all around you and the proliferation of dialysis centers. I'd say that's a vastly more serious concern.
 
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Federal law also bars the distribution of controlled substances regardless of where it is grown (which, in it of itself is also barred by federal law). Manufacture, distribution, possession ... it's all illegal under federal law.
Yes, but I don't think theres *any* chance those federal laws will be enforced in a state where possession is allowed (even though technically theey could be). Transport across state lines -- that *might* be a different story depending on the quantities. But @newell138 is right that it is *very* unlikely to be any enforcement against an occasional user like him for buying from an interstate transporter.
 
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Whether we admit it or not the excessive amount of alcohol, marijuana and drugs may seem like not a big thing but it will become worse in the next 5-10 years. . If we are all being somewhat honest here it should be a big concern especially those with children and grand children. Seems great to many but take a good look around and see if it really is .
Medical research is starting to show that even moderate alcohol consumption has a surprisingly big impact on cancer rates. I bet in 5-10 years, alcohol will be the new tobacco.

As for weed, clear research shows it damages brain cells and function in anyone younger than 25 years old. The human body isn't designed for smoking (of anything).
 
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teen drinking has been a thing for decades and most of us all seem to grow up OK. Its up to the parents to make sure their kids are not going overboard in that regard.
Read again… it’s the combination of alcohol, hard drugs and the legalization of marijuana . A time where open drug markets are heralded as the greatest thing since sliced white bread.I don’t have a problem with drinking or marijuana if done responsibly. Maybe because I ‘m older and I don’t do the things perhaps I did as a younger person. Do what you like and enjoy as long as you don’t impact another. Most in favor of these things “can’t see the forest nor the trees.”
 

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Take a look at the morbid obesity all around you and the proliferation of dialysis centers. I'd say that's a vastly more serious concern.
Hey dude here’s one for you . My late mother was on dialysis for 12 horrific years. Not because of obesity but because of a doctor and the FDA ‘s approved use of a product back in the early 1960’s. Sure obesity is a problem as you state but now there is a magic bullet which will become more and more in use. Semiglutides… they have some side effects but they work with minimal issues seen. Alcohol and marijuana can be used by adults but in moderation. Not driving down the roads of metro NY NJ. The open drug markets are a B1G problem. I’m going to venture a guess here. You have no kids….no grand children… so you bring up obesity. Go to any number of places restaurants, amusement areas , the boardwalk then watch the idiots flaunt their stupidity getting in a vehicle and endangering the public . You said your diploma / diplomas are in psychology … wow.
 

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Hey dude here’s one for you . My late mother was on dialysis for 12 horrific years. Not because of obesity but because of a doctor and the FDA ‘s approved use of a product back in the early 1960’s. Sure obesity is a problem as you state but now there is a magic bullet which will become more and more in use. Semiglutides… they have some side effects but they work with minimal issues seen. Alcohol and marijuana can be used by adults but in moderation. Not driving down the roads of metro NY NJ. The open drug markets are a B1G problem. I’m going to venture a guess here. You have no kids….no grand children… so you bring up obesity. Go to any number of places restaurants, amusement areas , the boardwalk then watch the idiots flaunt their stupidity getting in a vehicle and endangering the public . You said your diploma / diplomas are in psychology … wow.
Nonetheless, obesity is a bigger problem. It's ironic that you complain about your mother's kidney problems being caused by an FDA approved drug and then say the solution to obesity is going to be...another (expensive) drug. Wow. Obesity is a vastly bigger problem yet the "regulate marijuana and alcohol--but not tobacco or guns" crowd doesn't want to regulate obesity at all. Interesting. Whatever you did for a living I'm guessing you did it badly.
 
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Take a look at the morbid obesity all around you and the proliferation of dialysis centers. I'd say that's a vastly more serious concern.
I think you need to re evaluate what is a more serious concern here. Both are addictions but I ‘ll understand obesity more than thinking drugs and alcohol are not worse. But you are brgRC90 and you would never see an opposing side.
 

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I think you need to re evaluate what is a more serious concern here. Both are addictions but I ‘ll understand obesity more than thinking drugs and alcohol are not worse. But you are brgRC90 and you would never see an opposing side.
Tobacco causes 400,000 premature deaths per year. Obesity causes 200,000 to 300,000. Heavy drugs cause 100,000. Marijuana causes probably very few. "Drugs" and marijuana are very different.
 
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Nonetheless, obesity is a bigger problem. It's ironic that you complain about your mother's kidney problems being caused by an FDA approved drug and then say the solution to obesity is going to be...another (expensive) drug. Wow. Obesity is a vastly bigger problem yet the "regulate marijuana and alcohol--but not tobacco or guns" crowd doesn't want to regulate obesity at all. Interesting.
Who’s complaining about my mother’s kidney problems ? I stated her issues caused by a piss poor FDA and medical care giver. You read what I said … it’s not a bigger problem . It’s a problem on both issues yet you defend the use of drugs and alcohol it appears. You always attempt to disparage. I said moderation…. Same as in an issue with weight control .
 

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Who’s complaining about my mother’s kidney problems ? I stated her issues caused by a piss poor FDA and medical care giver. You read what I said … it’s not a bigger problem . It’s a problem on both issues yet you defend the use of drugs and alcohol it appears. You always attempt to disparage. I said moderation…. Same as in an issue with weight control .
What part of "bigger problem" didn't you grasp? What part of marijuana isn't the same as hard drugs eluded you?
 

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Nonetheless, obesity is a bigger problem. It's ironic that you complain about your mother's kidney problems being caused by an FDA approved drug and then say the solution to obesity is going to be...another (expensive) drug. Wow. Obesity is a vastly bigger problem yet the "regulate marijuana and alcohol--but not tobacco or guns" crowd doesn't want to regulate obesity at all. Interesting. Whatever you did for a living I'm guessing you did it badly.
How would you regulate obesity?
 

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Tobacco causes 400,000 premature deaths per year. Obesity causes 200,000 to 300,000. Heavy drugs cause 100,000. Marijuana causes probably very few. "Drugs" and marijuana are very different.
Hey dude because more people eat food than take drugs except those prescribed by a licensed healthcare provider you left that stat out. Don’t forget the innocent deaths caused by those driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol .
 

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How would you regulate obesity?
Since the 70s, 50% of the increase in calories among Americans has come from sugary drinks. They should be taxed like alcohol. They have zero nutrition and cannot really be considered food like carrots or beef. People can live just fine without them, in fact they're healthier.
 

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What part of "bigger problem" didn't you grasp? What part of marijuana isn't the same as hard drugs eluded you?
To belabor this posting with you is fruitless… you are an arrogant , self contained individual.
 

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Since the 70s, 50% of the increase in calories among Americans has come from sugary drinks. They should be taxed like alcohol. They have zero nutrition and cannot really be considered food like carrots or beef. People can live just fine without them, in fact they're healthier.
Since the 70s, 50% of the increase in calories among Americans has come from sugary drinks. They should be taxed like alcohol. They have zero nutrition and cannot really be considered food like carrots or beef. People can live just fine without them, in fact they're healthier.
Exactly ….I can’t say I never drank soda . But probably in the past 20 years had less than a 6 pack of soda. So before preaching about the evils of food what about open hard core drug markets? In your professional opinion those are acceptable? I doubt you will answer that.
 

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Exactly ….I can’t say I never drank soda . But probably in the past 20 years had less than a 6 pack of soda. So before preaching about the evils of food what about open hard core drug markets? In your professional opinion those are acceptable? I doubt you will answer that.
Lol omg what drug are you on? I said marijuana is not the same as hard drugs. Let's just focus on that since you're confused (pre-dementia?). Can you not grasp the point that wanting to regulate a mild drug like pot is silly when you have bigger problems that the same people ignore?
 

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And the claim about reading comprehension is that the best you have? You didn’t answer one of my questions with the drug use issue . I assume you don’t have a child or grandchildren ? That’s who I’m concerned about going forward.
 

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Lol omg what drug are you on? I said marijuana is not the same as hard drugs. Let's just focus on that since you're confused (pre-dementia?). Can you not grasp the point that wanting to regulate a mild drug like pot is silly when you have bigger problems that the same people ignore?
Hey dude I know what you said but it still is a drug unless I missed something on other than the new regulations on it’s consumption. I also said I ‘m not putting marijuana into the class of hard drugs.
 

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Tobacco causes 400,000 premature deaths per year. Obesity causes 200,000 to 300,000. Heavy drugs cause 100,000. Marijuana causes probably very few. "Drugs" and marijuana are very different.
Obesity causes WAY MORE deaths per year than 200-300k. You need to do better than a Google search. Read some medical literature. Obesity is a contributing factor to almost everything bad.....heart disease, diabetes, kidney disease, high blood pressure, most forms of cancer, etc.
 
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You must be referring to one of your family members. Sorry you’re such a little ***** but I understand completely.
 

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Since the 70s, 50% of the increase in calories among Americans has come from sugary drinks. They should be taxed like alcohol. They have zero nutrition and cannot really be considered food like carrots or beef. People can live just fine without them, in fact they're healthier.
You're certainly right that sugary drinks have zero nutrition and contribute both to obesity and Type II diabetes. I have to be very careful to stay away from them to keep my A1C in the recommended range. I've never seen the 50% figure -- where does it come from? After all, sugary drinks like Coke and Pepsi have been around a long time. As you probably know, Philadelphia has a modest (1.5 cent) tax on sugary drinks -- it has been very controversial to say the least. There also (and this surprises me) seems to be debate about the health benefits of such taxes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugary_drink_tax
 

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You're certainly right that sugary drinks have zero nutrition and contribute both to obesity and Type II diabetes. I have to be very careful to stay away from them to keep my A1C in the recommended range. I've never seen the 50% figure -- where does it come from? After all, sugary drinks like Coke and Pepsi have been around a long time. As you probably know, Philadelphia has a modest (1.5 cent) tax on sugary drinks -- it has been very controversial to say the least. There also (and this surprises me) seems to be debate about the health benefits of such taxes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugary_drink_tax
A tiny tax won't make a difference. A pack of cigarette being taxed by dollars per pack makes a big difference. The point ultimately is that it's disingenuous to claim to care about the negative health effects of marijuana, and be for heavy regulation, and ignore obesity and laugh at similar attempts to tackle it with regulation, as happened when New York and Philadelphia suggested it some years ago.
 

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A tiny tax won't make a difference. A pack of cigarette being taxed by dollars per pack makes a big difference. The point ultimately is that it's disingenuous to claim to care about the negative health effects of marijuana, and be for heavy regulation, and ignore obesity and laugh at similar attempts to tackle it with regulation, as happened when New York and Philadelphia suggested it some years ago.
Sure all taxes are good … especially for the elderly, families that have CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. Sure more regulations are definitely what the state of NJ can use.
 

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Know all about the ****ing F drug wife's niece OD'd. Young girl dammmmm shame

It's beyond me why anyone would touch opiates at this point in time but consider that a lot of people who do are unafraid of self-destruction because it's basically what they're looking for. A lot of ODs are probably not unwanted.
stupidity dont do it 1 time and you can't get hooked
I'm waiting for Costco to open dispensaries in their stores. Probably get a solid deal on 5Lbs of ganja bulk pack
I'm sure ot will be a Kirkland Brand!!!! Who would be the real manufacturer.
 

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I posted those two threads since I knew you would be back chirping away… you can’t help yourself .😜
 

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Marijuana with the potency it has now and how easy it is to get large amounts is going to help destroy a lot of lives.