OT: Cannabis sales opening up in NJ

newell138

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I have heard more than a couple drivers tell me they prefer to be high when driving as they are less anxious. And they feel they are much better drivers that way.
Of course, it doesn't enter their mind that their reflexes are so much slower because of it.

I'm curious though, weed can stay in your system well after the high is gone- a couple of weeks...what type of test can be given to determine if you are "high" at the time of driving and not just the lingering drug that can still be traced in your blood?

I don't believe such a test exists and that was one of the complaints of law enforcement.
 

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I don't believe such a test exists and that was one of the complaints of law enforcement.
I think that's correct. No medical tests, just the typical field sobriety tests.

Which is surprising to me. I would think there's a way to measure the active chemicals in the blood, THC or whatever, and that there's some somewhat standardized level, above which one's clearly inebriated. But I guess not.

BAC isn't a perfect test either. The correlation between BAC level and a particular person's demonstrated level of inebriation isn't exact. It varies a lot. But we still use it.
 

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I have heard more than a couple drivers tell me they prefer to be high when driving as they are less anxious. And they feel they are much better drivers that way.
Of course, it doesn't enter their mind that their reflexes are so much slower because of it.

Not into weed. Never was, never will be. Don't really care what others do for recreation or relaxation. Yes, the effects of weed and alcohol are different. However, can the pro-weed people agree that like alcohol, you can get so stoned that it will impair your ability to drive safely? And similarly, just like having 1 or 2 drinks is "safe" for most people, get a little lit might not impair one's ability to safely drive a vehicle?

And if that is the case, wouldn't a field sobriety test determine the person was impaired to the point of being unable to safely operate a vehicle?

Is the problem that there is not a test like the blood alcohol limit (is it 0.08) that correlates to "impaired" with weed? That is the problem- and perhaps until there is, there will be anti-weed people arguing that smoking weed and driving is "dangerous."
 
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We had "guys down the street" where I grew up in Elizabeth. But, not so much here in Lincroft. (Or, not to my knowledge at least.)

So I'll be patronizing a "dispensary" if I decide to try pot again for the 1st time in 25 years.

Have all of the other states where pot is legally sold "screwed up" up as well? Or just New Jersey?
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You can definitely be too stoned to drive whereas your reaction time is not where it needs to be.

Personally I think I have a better awareness when stoned that I am at/past the limit to drive than when drinking as alcohol gives one a false bravado that I don't get from weed. Weed on the other hand can make you more anxious/cautious depending on the personality so you hopefully refrain from getting behind the wheel.

Combining alcohol and weed is a whole other kettle of fish.
 

newell138

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Not into weed. Never was, never will be. Don't really care what others do for recreation or relaxation. Yes, the effects of weed and alcohol are different. However, can the pro-weed people agree that like alcohol, you can get so stoned that it will impair your ability to drive safely? And similarly, just like having 1 or 2 drinks is "safe" for most people, get a little lit might not impair one's ability to safely drive a vehicle?

And if that is the case, wouldn't a field sobriety test determine the person was impaired to the point of being unable to safely operate a vehicle?

Is the problem that there is not a test like the blood alcohol limit (is it 0.08) that correlates to "impaired" with weed? That is the problem- and perhaps until there is, there will be anti-weed people arguing that smoking weed and driving is "dangerous."

I don't know anyone who thinks driving while stoned is OK, but I'm sure they exist just like people still think its OK to drink and drive
 

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Cannabis can help with a drunk's shakes and helps them drive better.
The problem many have with drunk driving is they don't get drunk enough. They drive when they're only seeing double.

The trick is to be so drunk you're seeing triple. That way, you can aim at the lane in the middle.
 
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I see a lot of WTF driving moments on my (typically) weekly pleasure drives. People running red lights and stop signs, people riding the bumper of the cars in front of them, often at highway speeds (which is suicidal).

I see people lose control of their car sometimes, in strange ways. Spins and sudden out of control accelerations and such. People on the highway changing lanes too fast for their car to handle and swaying wildly and near out of control.

I actually got hit once by a drunk woman in a parking lot. She was coming from a fire department gathering in a park. I was in my car with my GF at the time. We watched her stumble down a hill, with 3 little kids. Watched them climb into the car. Watched her start the car, put it in drive and go forward, up a curb and a few feet up the kill. Then stop, switch to reverse, back down and keep backing up until she hit my car.

I was... a little irritated. More about the little kids than anything else. I wanted to call the cops, but a bunch of firemen talked me out of it and said they'd drive her and the kids home. So I let it go. In retrospect, I doubt the firemen were sober themselves.
Person coming around Flemington circle on left who's supposed to yield just drive on thru and almost t boned me just this morning..

The lack of driving skills out there is out of control..
 

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Not into weed. Never was, never will be. Don't really care what others do for recreation or relaxation. Yes, the effects of weed and alcohol are different. However, can the pro-weed people agree that like alcohol, you can get so stoned that it will impair your ability to drive safely? And similarly, just like having 1 or 2 drinks is "safe" for most people, get a little lit might not impair one's ability to safely drive a vehicle?

And if that is the case, wouldn't a field sobriety test determine the person was impaired to the point of being unable to safely operate a vehicle?

Is the problem that there is not a test like the blood alcohol limit (is it 0.08) that correlates to "impaired" with weed? That is the problem- and perhaps until there is, there will be anti-weed people arguing that smoking weed and driving is "dangerous."
I've heard, from the daughter of a lawyer who does/did a ton of DWI defense cases - so take it with a huge grain of salt, that it's not very difficult to beat DWIs in court when there's only a field sobriety test. Also heard some techniques to avoid the blood test, or at least delay until it's too late for it.
 

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I said you were clueless and you say F off. Ok pothead time for you to go . Hope you and your family members stay safe on the roads .
Lol.. "pot head" I hardly even smoke anymore since legalization and didn't for 35 years before that lol.
We get along fine on the boards but when someone just resorts to insults I fight back.
I can say f off in this thread and still like you otherwise ya know.
 
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I think that's correct. No medical tests, just the typical field sobriety tests.

Which is surprising to me. I would think there's a way to measure the active chemicals in the blood, THC or whatever, and that there's some somewhat standardized level, above which one's clearly inebriated. But I guess not.

BAC isn't a perfect test either. The correlation between BAC level and a particular person's demonstrated level of inebriation isn't exact. It varies a lot. But we still use it.
I think THC stays in one's blood for about a month.
Listen, I can have a drink or two and drive and I'm fine. Getting hammered and attempting to drive however is just stupid.
I can also take some puffs on a joint and drive quite well. I think I actually drive better a little high.
But gettng blitzed on some primo herb and then attempting to drive while totally wasted is equally stupid.
I particularly don't recommend it in Jamaica, where you gotta drive on the other side of the road.
 

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For the first time ever in NJ, last year DUI was the top cause of fatal car accidents due to the spike in high drivers. Beat out the long running king of deaths.....distractions.

Great job potheads. You are making NJ a better place.

booze and drugs make for an unsafe road when people get wasted then drive..
It stands to reason legalizing Marijuana would make more people drive under the influence of it.
Just like legally drinking booze.makes for a better chance of someone getting a DUI than those who can drive but are to young to drink legally.
For those against .Marijuana and feel it shouldn't be legal, remember booze is a problem too.
Both can be safely used if the user acts responsible after using.
 
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booze and drugs make for an unsafe road when people get wasted then drive..
It stands to reason legalizing Marijuana would make more people drive under the influence of it.
Just like legally drinking booze.makes for a better chance of someone getting a DUI than those who can drive but are to young to drink legally.
For those against .Marijuana and feel it shouldn't be legal, remember booze is a problem too.
Both can be safely used if the user acts responsible after using.
I was just thinking that, judicious use of hookers and blow, while driving, probably makes me drive better.
 
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I don't believe such a test exists and that was one of the complaints of law enforcement.
No there's a test just like a Breathalyzer for weed. Works the same way. Saw a segment about it on the Today Show a few years ago. Not sure how widely they've been adopted by LEO's. The tech is only about 4-5 years old.
 

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I was just thinking that, judicious use of hookers and blow, while driving, probably makes me drive better.
So you've never had "one" while driving?
Talk about distracted driving..
Pot head? No. Red Head.? . guilty.
 

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No there's a test just like a Breathalyzer for weed. Works the same way. Saw a segment about it on the Today Show a few years ago. Not sure how widely they've been adopted by LEO's. The tech is only about 4-5 years old.
That’s your first mistake , watching the today show , really ?
 

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That’s your first mistake , watching the today show , really ?
Lol my wife used to put it on. When she left for work I'd switch it to CNBC. Now that I think about it, maybe it wasn't Today because she changed jobs long enough ago the timeline doesn't quite work. Wherever I saw it, they're out there and they're accurate.
 

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Thanks for sharing your knowledge about a new Breathalyzer test for weed. That's interesting to hear, I had no idea such a thing existed. I think it's great that technology is advancing to help law enforcement agencies detect impaired drivers. Hopefully, this will help prevent accidents caused by drug-impaired driving. Speaking of options, have you ever tried using CBD for pain relief? I read an article the other day about the best CBD for pain, and it was really informative. The article talked about how CBD can help reduce pain and inflammation, making it a great alternative to traditional painkillers.
 

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Thanks for sharing your knowledge about a new Breathalyzer test for weed. That's interesting to hear, I had no idea such a thing existed. I think it's great that technology is advancing to help law enforcement agencies detect impaired drivers. Hopefully, this will help prevent accidents caused by drug-impaired driving. Speaking of options, have you ever tried using CBD for pain relief? I read an article the other day about the best CBD for pain, and it was really informative. The article talked about how CBD can help reduce pain and inflammation, making it a great alternative to traditional painkillers.
I know people who use for minor back pain and arthritis.

I like this company. I take their gummies that have melatonin in them for sleep. USA grown, no added crap and vegan.
 

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I’ve never tried CBD products but it seems like 50% of people think they offer benefits and the other 50% think they are worthless.

So many CBD products out there. Let the buyer beware.
 

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Thanks for sharing your knowledge about a new Breathalyzer test for weed. That's interesting to hear, I had no idea such a thing existed. I think it's great that technology is advancing to help law enforcement agencies detect impaired drivers. Hopefully, this will help prevent accidents caused by drug-impaired driving. Speaking of options, have you ever tried using CBD for pain relief? I read an article the other day about the best CBD for pain, and it was really informative. The article talked about how CBD can help reduce pain and inflammation, making it a great alternative to traditional painkillers.
A lot of NFL players have been talking of this for years.And have been going this way rather than opioids for pain relief. And the shame is that they still have to fear being tested for something much less dangerous to them then the heavy drugs doctors like to hand out like Pez
 
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A lot of NFL players have been talking of this for years.And have been going this way rather than opioids for pain relief. And the shame is that they still have to fear being tested for something much less dangerous to them then the heavy drugs doctors like to hand out like Pez

Don't know that I've ever told you this story, but there used to be a Super Bowl doctor dedicated to League Office personnel. The whole month we were there, he'd come around on a daily basis and ask everyone how they were feeling. Any coughs, sniffles, aches or pains resulted in him handing you a bottle of something.

Personally, I thought it was awesome.
 
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My wife has chronic pain and the 50/50 CBD/THC Tincture is the best thing for her pain relief. She was 100% anti-marijuana before she tried the tincture. There is no "high" feeling, just deadens the pain enough to allow her to get a good night of sleep
 

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My wife has chronic pain and the 50/50 CBD/THC Tincture is the best thing for her pain relief. She was 100% anti-marijuana before she tried the tincture. There is no "high" feeling, just deadens the pain enough to allow her to get a good night of sleep.
Hmmm.

Something to consider when I'm done as (to paraphrase Coach) I got a shoulder (2x), a lower and mid back, sometimes an elbow and knees that need assistance whenever I squat too low.
 
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Hmmm.

Something to consider when I'm done as (to paraphrase Coach) I got a shoulder (2x), a lower and mid back, sometimes an elbow and knees that need assistance whenever I squat too low.
My 80 year old dad has severe arthritis and carpal tunnel in his elbows/forearms/wrists from a long career of electronics repair. Over Easter I finally convinced him to try gummies for a couple days (the 50/50 ratio) and they gave him so much relief he’s going to start using them regularly. I could tell how shocked and amazed he was by how well they work, he always thought I was embellishing the level of relief it brings and just trying to get him high.
 

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I’ve never tried CBD products but it seems like 50% of people think they offer benefits and the other 50% think they are worthless.

So many CBD products out there. Let the buyer beware.

A friend who is reliable for supplement info recommended CBD gels for sleep.
I tried some and after 15 minutes I'm drowsy and yawning (no buzz at all)
I wake-up with zero after effects
A problem with CBD is that a lot of it seems to be garbage

I got the brand linked below

 
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A friend who is reliable for supplement info recommended CBD gels for sleep.
I tried some and after 15 minutes I'm drowsy and yawning.
I wake-up with zero after effects
A problem with CBD is that a lot of it seems to be garbage

I got the brand linked below

I hardly ever touch THC anymore but I bought some CBD gummies to try for my terrible sleep. I actually took a shot and grabbed them from Groupon lol.
They do EXACTLY what you say. The difference in my sleep is amazing. Wife takes them too. On my third now very large bottle. I do have some crazy a$$ dreams though from time to time.
 
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Ever try Harrelson's Own? I'm curious about the brand because, well... the family knows a lot about weed.

I've only used Neurogen because it had good reviews when I first researched and then it worked real well.
On the site they were having a sale where I got 4 bottles ($28 each - normally $65) with each softgel listed at 40mg CBD (60 gels per bottle).
There are lots of products selling for 2-3x as much with half the potency.
I didn't know if the stuff worked, but when it did I was good for 240 days and I still have a bottle to go.
One gel puts me down so I'm happy but I would try some other things like topical even though I dont need it yet.
My friend used cbd oil on eczema and it cleared it up.
I only see a roll on gel on Harrelson site but I would try it if a need arose

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That's a little ambiguous. It could be taken to mean "from their ***", "from the toilet", or "from web searches they make while on the toilet".

I'm going out on a limb and guessing you meant option A. 😀

Good guess. I was going for option C, but I'll accept option A as well.
 
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