Seabed mapping is an ongoing process, much like painting a bridge. Any site-specific survey work, if it's happening at all, wouldn't be anomalous.
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Seabed mapping is an ongoing process, much like painting a bridge. Any site-specific survey work, if it's happening at all, wouldn't be anomalous.
A friend of mine worked for ATT and was involved in the project running fiber optic cable across the Atlantic. Wouldn't they have done this sonar mapping on a project like that?
I dont recall an issue with whales at the time
LOL. Leftists and Rightists both have a deep and enduring hatred of freedom and love affair with hypocrisy. It just depends on the specific subject is all.
For instance, leftists want to take away our fundamental freedom to defend ourselves against criminals who illegally possess firearms. If we're attacked, tough luck, throw a rock I guess.
And rightists want to take away people's freedom to self-determination over our own bodies. Nothing screams "freedom" more than informing us that the government owns our bodies.
How's that for offending almost everyone?
You mean the same government that was forcing everyone to get vaxxed?
I had not heard. That's interesting and little scary. Far as I remember, that sort of behavior was very rare. I wonder what's changed.
Maybe they're pissed off at all the wind farms.
No one asked me about Appalachia and I haven't done any research on it to form an opinion, but I'm all for clean drinking water. In fact my dad was a key witness in the fight against the Ford plant in Mahwah and them dumping all the paint sludge in north Jersey.
I don't know if the windmills will have any effect on the whales or other sea life but I do know that its going to make our electric bills skyrocket. Who do you think is going to pay for the installation?
You just know the bolded part is gonna all wind up being reported as fact by some propaganda site that will reference an unnamed source. And people will believe it and make FB and twitter memes (if twitter's still around).
Yes but I'm not seeing the relevance to what I posted.
It's not even apples and oranges. It's apples and reality TV ratings.
Like I said, seabed mapping is constant, just like painting a bridge - do it all, then start over. Only with seabed mapping they're doing multiple regions at a time, at all times.
There's been a lot of conjecture over the years that sonar bothers whales. There's been research done by the US Navy which suggests their very powerful active sonar systems may be harmful to marine mammals.
But it's not something that gets used a lot.
And there's nothing at all to suggest that smaller, higher frequency sonars used for mapping and location are in any way detrimental. The talk track in this story, as suggested by the Ocean County publication and some vocal amateur environmentalists, conflates the two topics - quite incorrectly.
Well, it might not have been detected. But it would've been transient anyway.
And it's not like humanity has ever shied away from putting it's needs far ahead of the needs of the planet and other life on it. We only shy away when the needs are limited to a relatively small and powerless minority of people (like whalers and NJ beach community residents.) and/or doing so benefits someone politically.
Or am I being overly cynical now?
well you mentioned righty government making decisions on peoples bodies but it was the lefty Biden admin that forced vaccines on everyone
So let me get this straight. 4Real says the whales are dying after eating the red herrings that swim past the wind farms southwest of Ocean City.
Got it.
So who will be our next OL coach?
Got it.
So who will be our next OL coach?
They began laying cables across the Atlantic late in the 19th century for telegraphs. Not sure sonar is needed if they follow the same route.
The seabed changes. Once mapping capabilities came into existence (post WWII) there weren't too many cables laid where there was no mapping done.
The seabed changes. Sometimes quite dramatically. Also it moves - between 2 and 6 inches per year.
You seem to have ignored the part about how I was citing one example of EACH side's hypocrisy and freedom-hating without expressing any preference or advantage for either side. It wasn't an invitation to choose sides.
Instead, you've leapt right into whataboutism, finger-pointing, and demonization. Which I have zero interest in engaging in on behalf of either side. Mostly because it's one of the most laughably moronic things anybody can ever do in this life. Nobody will EVER, EVER win that "debate".
Which is why I call it the partisan mouse wheel. People from both sides hop on and proceed to spin and spin and spin, chasing each other around endlessly, never getting anywhere at all. Now and then, they pause, then start spinning the other direction. At which point, they actually (and this is the truly hilarious and insane bit) think they've accomplished something, as if a mouse wheel changing directions would magically change the fact that it never actually goes anywhere.
The sheer uselessness of such behavior is so incredibly obvious and yet people cannot stop from engaging in it. Most people will go their entire lives spinning around and around, getting nowhere, all the while deluded into thinking they're better and smarter than the other people on the wheel. "Look at me", they think. "I'm not like those idiots. I'm a genius. Unlike them, I'm really going places on this wheel."
The only sane path forward for this nation is for people to recognize what's happening and hop off the wheel.
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You seem to have ignored the part about how I was citing one example of EACH side's hypocrisy and freedom-hating without expressing any preference or advantage for either side. It wasn't an invitation to choose sides.
Instead, you've leapt right into whataboutism, finger-pointing, and demonization. Which I have zero interest in engaging in on behalf of either side. Mostly because it's one of the most laughably moronic things anybody can ever do in this life. Nobody will EVER, EVER win that "debate".
Which is why I call it the partisan mouse wheel. People from both sides hop on and proceed to spin and spin and spin, chasing each other around endlessly, never getting anywhere at all. Now and then, they pause, then start spinning the other direction. At which point, they actually (and this is the truly hilarious and insane bit) think they've accomplished something, as if a mouse wheel changing directions would magically change the fact that it never actually goes anywhere.
The sheer uselessness of such behavior is so incredibly obvious and yet people cannot stop from engaging in it. Most people will go their entire lives spinning around and around, getting nowhere, all the while deluded into thinking they're better and smarter than the other people on the wheel. Look at me, I'm not like those idiots. I'm a genius. Unlike them, I'm really going places.
The only sane path forward for this nation is for people to recognize what's happening and hop off the wheel.
makes sense
Of course it will. Here is Delaware our wise former governor handed over hundreds of millions of taxpayers money via a surcharge to buy electricity from Bloom Energy's fuel cells. As a bonus, Bloom employs about a third of the workers they promised to hire. Plus, the state gave them $16M to build the factory. This is the stuff that happens when you have single party rule across the board. I can only image how badly you all in NJ are going get screwed.
It is stupid. Wind and solar should be integrated into the buildings that use the power. Why build 20 miles offshore when you can build on top of a building?
Why bulldoze a forest for solar that could be built on the building?
Why bulldoze a forest for solar that could be built on the building?
Ever seen the size of one of those offshore windmills? I believe offshore also provides more consistent wind. Solar integrated into building would help but not be enough.
I agree we shouldn't bulldoze a forests since that's counter-productive to reducing carbon in our atmosphere.
However, we cannot just put solar and wind-turbines on buildings alone because there won't be enough power generation for all our energy needs. Which I would imagine you already knew, since it's pretty obvious.
Do you really meme that?
You know, most of my life, I've had people say how bad I'm going to get screwed by living here in NJ. Hell, I was hearing it so much I got scared and invested heavily in a personal lubricants company. Just in case, you know? Prepare for the wurst, so to speak.
Now here I am, decades later, and guess what? I haven't been screwed even once. My bottom line remains unmolested despite all the dire warnings.
Even that lubricants company's stock has done great, split a half dozen times. There has been much personal growth.
There's a moral to this story, but I'll leave that to the reader.
Edge case. Doesn't negate the point.
Oh yeah and I'm retracting my post. I just don't feel like wading into that pool right now.
I feel like people's sexual behavior is essentially the choice of people actually having sex.
75% of the Republican Congressional caucus hasn't had sex in decades, 20% of them are closeted homosexuals and the other 5% are vehemently pro-abortion because they stick their dicks in anything that identifies as Under 18.
I don't like people telling me how to drive my car. I don't like people telling me how to drink my whiskey. I don't like people telling me what to do with my weed. I figure it's not appropriate for me to tell anyone what to do with their ****** / uterus.
If you plan on doing the first thing, don’t do the second or third beforehand.
And it’s not about having sex, it’s the possible result of creating another person and deciding you don’t want it…just because. There are ways to prevent that as “the great napper” mentioned above.
As for the main topic…I think I have a post in the thread saying I’m pro-alternative energy everything: hydro, wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal.
That being said as the technology gets there. Maybe not cold turkey rightthissecond.
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You covered yourself. You gave reasonable outs for the outliers.
But back on topic…try them all, alternatives. Just don’t force until the tech is there to support a total switch.
Have solar now along with a whole house NG Generac (for just in case), one brother in law has geothermal and another could be a mouthpiece for Tesla as he likes his THAT much.
Yeah. Goldman Sacks Murphy cares about the rain forest. Lefties are all scum who use slave labor so they can go online and cancel people. No offense.
Predictable. Totally biased and so is every news source.Wow, what a great unbiased source and opinion
Sound plan all around. My retirement home will have a backup genny. Not sure I like the look of the solars but I'd do the research. Personal isn't the problem though. It's the grid and replacing cheap baseline with not-so-cheap not-so-baseline capacity.
Look at the rolling blackouts in CA, TX and most everywhere these days. Nukes or Coal for baseline. Make the choice. Don't say NG because that drives up the cost of heating an cooking for po' folk.
Solar panels have gotten efficient enough that they can provide nearly all of the en route electrical needs of a 50' cruising sailboat.
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