OT: COVID-19 news. Out of over 3000 positive tests in prison
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My Dr. has me on Lysol injections TID daily, with topical Dow Bathroom cleaner. Never felt better..
Fantastic! We're finally on the same side of logic...of needing dramatically more testing, so millions of new infections won't occur. That's how you slow this virus when you don't have a vaccine, by testing as many as humanly possible. You're finally coming around.
SARS killed a total of 775 people. It didn't remotely have the R naught of 2.0 - 2.5 (transmission rate) that Covid-19 has. Not to mention that it never got established in the U.S. I would say that an average of 2,000+ people dying each day for the last month or so in the U.S. is pretty well established. Wouldn't you?
And what are we doing to mitigate more transmissions? Welp, in our infinite wisdom,
we have decided opening up the majority of states without widespread testing is the prudent thing to do.
You think 2,000 dead/day is bad? Well, watch this virus blossom like May flowers when all of these states soften social distancing. A real recipe for disaster is being cooked up in the kitchen, and it will impact all of us. I can't believe how monumentally stupid people in this country are. "Oh, it killed 2,000 a day when we were supposedly employing Social Distancing. Well, let's see how many we can kill without it."
So what do we do...well, let's open the country back up, dramatically soften social distancing...so we can kill even more than 2,000 per day. Yep, makes sense. Even if we stay at the same rate of 2,000 deaths per day, that would kill 180,000 additional people in just 3 months.
Pandemics don't go away overnight. I haven't read about one pandemic in the history of the world that went away in less than a year. You were looking for an explanation as to why I see this killing more than 200,000 in the U.S. That is exactly how! We've got at least 8 more months of this. And that is being waaaay optimistic killing it off before the end of 2020.
Since the Chinese aids has hit I've traveled to Moab UT, Vegas, Santa Barbra, Kansas, and am working on a trip to Mt Ida AR to do some mountain biking....it's kinda nice having so much of the road to yourself!!!!
Everyone will have or have gotten this. There is nothing you can do unless you are on another planet or stuck on an island with no incoming or outgoing transportation. It is here forever and will be another virus along with the flu, we are going to have to deal with every year.SARS killed a total of 775 people. It didn't remotely have the R naught of 2.0 - 2.5 (transmission rate) that Covid-19 has. Not to mention that it never got established in the U.S. I would say that an average of 2,000+ people dying each day for the last month or so in the U.S. is pretty well established. Wouldn't you?
And what are we doing to mitigate more transmissions? Welp, in our infinite wisdom,
we have decided opening up the majority of states without widespread testing is the prudent thing to do.
You think 2,000 dead/day is bad? Well, watch this virus blossom like May flowers when all of these states soften social distancing. A real recipe for disaster is being cooked up in the kitchen, and it will impact all of us. I can't believe how monumentally stupid people in this country are. "Oh, it killed 2,000 a day when we were supposedly employing Social Distancing. Well, let's see how many we can kill without it."
So what do we do...well, let's open the country back up, dramatically soften social distancing...so we can kill even more than 2,000 per day. Yep, makes sense. Even if we stay at the same rate of 2,000 deaths per day, that would kill 180,000 additional people in just 3 months.
Pandemics don't go away overnight. I haven't read about one pandemic in the history of the world that went away in less than a year. You were looking for an explanation as to why I see this killing more than 200,000 in the U.S. That is exactly how! We've got at least 8 more months of this. And that is being waaaay optimistic killing it off before the end of 2020.
I'm willing to bet that come November, after a certain event takes places, no matter the outcome, the people clamoring for continued shut down will be more apt to reopen the country. At that point the virus can no longer serve much purpose and we just won't have the energy to keep pretending like this is the plague it was portrayed to be.
Yep. There is no way to mitigate this long term. As long as hospitals don't get overwhelmed it really doesn't matter when people get it, its gonna happen.
LOL! People with your approach are the ones that will kill innocent people that are trying to keep this virus from spreading. I'm guessing you refuse to wear a mask when you go to the grocery store too, right?
You do you...stay home for the rest of your life for all I care...but I've been way more accurate about this than the sky screamers who said we were all going to die, and in fact, I think people still acting that's going to happen look very silly and part of me wonders if they're rooting for it just so they can eventually say they were right.
I don't wear a mask when I go to stores. What good does it do if I don't cough or sneeze and stay away from other people?
Do you have some sort of skin condition that prevents the use of a facial covering? Why is following the reasonable recommendations of medical professionals such a problem?
Well.. There is some goal post moving going on. There are a lot of deaths being chalked up as Covid that are laughable... Yes, this is a serious virus, yes we should take precautions, but we also need to live our lives and let people make good choices and quit focusing on the far left side of the bell curve. We aren't a communist country and shouldn't treat our people like it.
Point one - if anything, the number of official Covid deaths are being undercounted.
Point two - yes, it is serious. Question for you: should people be protesting with automatic weapons the actions that elected officials have taken against this serious virus?
Point three - yes, pre-cautions should be taken, but I'm seeing an absence of that. Should shop keepers be threatened because they want folks to wear facial covering on their premises?
Point four - don't know what communism has to do with this matter. If by communism you mean elected officials and the health officials they rely on for advice issuing reasonable emergency orders, then I think you are wrong.
Again, another study showing much higher infection rate compared to 'known' infection rate
https://www.foxnews.com/health/germanys-coronavirus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-study-claims
Germanys finding the same thing everyone else is finding,huge numbers of asymptomatic people, ten times known numbers.
But this time, they are following it up with further studies which helps us understand a few things.
One, how much exposure,or loading made a difference, and, asymptomatic shedding transmission.
They think the IFR is actually 0.37 %.
Still very high, like a very bad flu year.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/germanys-coronavirus-cases-10-times-higher-than-reported-study-claims
Germanys finding the same thing everyone else is finding,huge numbers of asymptomatic people, ten times known numbers.
But this time, they are following it up with further studies which helps us understand a few things.
One, how much exposure,or loading made a difference, and, asymptomatic shedding transmission.
They think the IFR is actually 0.37 %.
Still very high, like a very bad flu year.
I feel the exact opposite....and i'm glad to see so many waking up to this and protesting to open this country back up...but again, stay home if you want. Don't care.
Normal death rate numbers are way up. Check it out for yourself. Adding in Covid-19 numbers and still above norms. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-19-death-toll-indicated-cdc-data/3048381001/
Federal data released this week shows that the number of deaths recorded in the U.S. this year is higher than normal, outpacing deaths attributed to COVID-19 in states that have been hit hardest by the virus.
The data provides the first look at death trends this year across the country and offers more evidence that the official tally of coronavirus deaths is low.
The phenomenon is pronounced in states with some of the worst COVID-19 outbreaks. From March 22 to April 11, New York saw 14,403 more deaths than the average of the previous six years, according to data maintained by the National Center for Health Statistics at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. New Jersey saw an additional 4,439 deaths and Michigan an additional 1,572.
Federal data released this week shows that the number of deaths recorded in the U.S. this year is higher than normal, outpacing deaths attributed to COVID-19 in states that have been hit hardest by the virus.
The data provides the first look at death trends this year across the country and offers more evidence that the official tally of coronavirus deaths is low.
The phenomenon is pronounced in states with some of the worst COVID-19 outbreaks. From March 22 to April 11, New York saw 14,403 more deaths than the average of the previous six years, according to data maintained by the National Center for Health Statistics at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. New Jersey saw an additional 4,439 deaths and Michigan an additional 1,572.
Suppression of civil and God given rights ,even threats to ending some, its the awful reminder why they exist.
One sides acts, the other reacts.
NY - 13.9% of 3,000 people across NY. So 10X over official numbers in a state where the prevalence was most intense. If those numbers are a true picture, then NY would total up around 150K possible deaths on the way to herd immunity.
Jesus, no one is being marched off to the gulag. You cheapen the sacrifices that prior generations have made for your "God give rights".
Do you know whether or not you are shedding the virus? If you don't know (like, for sure), then the following applies (pee=virus)
Can I argue 3,000 less New Yorkers is addition by subtraction? I'm kidding, even though they feel the same about my fly over state...i'm not wishing any ill will on them. They are welcome to stay home to. Don't care. Have everything delivered for the rest of their lives if they want.
if no 2nd round of this, there could be a bigger backlash from people who lost everything or a sh1tload.
i hope there's not a 2nd round, but we'll truly find out our resolve for this if there is, because we ain't shutting down ever again.
i hope there's not a 2nd round, but we'll truly find out our resolve for this if there is, because we ain't shutting down ever again.
Point one - Agree to disagree. We can both probably find articles to back our claims, but I've seen a lot of stats that seem way out of whack as well as doctors saying that their admins are promoting chalking deaths up as Covid to receive more money..
Point two - You are focusing on the left side of the bell curve. There are going to be radicals for each side. Who cares? Protests happen on both sides and what does having weapons have to do with anything? Did they shoot a bunch of people? We aren't talking gun rights here.
Point three - That is your opinion as is most of the points you are making. If you are worried at being at risk, stay the **** home and follow every ounce of the guideline. Most of this **** changes on the daily, and none of us really know the answer and if you say otherwise you are incorrect. Hell, a prime example is trying to keep everyone inside now that the temps are warming when you are probably safer being outside with fresh air, sunlight and all of the other things that seem to help knock the virus down.
Point 4 - We live in a free country and should not have power hungry governors trying to illegally suppress our rights as citizens. I don't care to bring politics into it as it could be a right or left mayor. You want that type of stuff in your life move to China, Russia or other countries.
Lol, even the administration of the liar-in-chief now states that the number of people who will be dying every day in the U.S. by June 1st will be 3,000, even as they are pushing to lift restrictions:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
If this seems dangerous, dumb, and wrong, that's because it is.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/health/us-coronavirus-monday/index.html
If this seems dangerous, dumb, and wrong, that's because it is.
No, some people feeling this way, they remind who is in power, just like when radicals overstep, the governments steps and, yet, the majority of the people think its the right thing.
It's a balance. Those most worried are the first or loudest to display it, just like many are afraid to step outside,and gives government more power,,giving up their liberties, others see their rights threatened.
It's legit,but I'm the guy trying to get people out of their houses, not wanting to lose more liberties, but,I'm not the guy carrying a gun, but I can understand it.
These numbers could be explained by added stress of unemployment, lack of exercise due to quarantines, and the uncertainty/panic of the virus. (Some could argue which were all caused by the overreaction of the media and governments.)
No it isn't. It's theater, paid for by the super wealthy who are trying to run this country as their own cash machines. Suckers like you just keep falling for it.
Elected officials issuing lawful orders, not power hungry governors trying to illegally suppress your rights. Don't like it, vote against them next time. Maybe you should move to China and experience the true power of a repressive state. Like board you up inside your house in order to enforce a quarantine.
I really don't care.
I know people feel both ways.
So.distractions don't matter
Leading with a stamp of this or that,down playing peoples intentions are pointless.
No thanks. I'm not interested in China, Russia or any sort of suppression of my rights. That's why I love the US, so I'll stay here, live my life, outside, in public, free of fear.
I'm a vote em out guy. But I believe my armed neighbor has a right to his gun, and feel threatened by his government.
No one likes this,these restrictions,so don't understand acting on extremes, but understand both sides.
Symbolism
Also, what are these governors going to say?
The truth: "Yeah, this thing's contagious and everyone's going to get it short of a vaccine being deployed -- never mind the fact that SARS and MERS still don't have a vaccine"
Or this:
"We need to open the country back up, even though people are going to get sick, so go ahead and wear an ill fitting piece of cloth around your face, that will protect you and others."
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