do you think the other automakers factored the chip shortage in their out-year forecasts back in 2018 and 2019? you can factor in some allowances in the forecast, but you're not going to know what you don't know. just because they're a startup doesn't mean that they should be held to a different standard than everyone else.
OT: Electric vehicles
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production cut because of a shortage of shipping containers! there needs to be a global reckoning in the supply chain and shipping/logistics fields. the port of los angeles' issues and the suez canal blockage simply can't be allowed to be world altering events that cascade into all areas of the economy. race to low cost also has plenty of risk attached, as we now see.
Tesla just surpassed 30K global superchargers with plans to triple the supercharger network within 2 years.
https://insideevs.com/news/547046/30000-tesla-superchargers-globally/
https://electrek.co/2021/10/21/tesla-plans-triple-supercharger-network/
https://insideevs.com/news/547046/30000-tesla-superchargers-globally/
https://electrek.co/2021/10/21/tesla-plans-triple-supercharger-network/
if only we could agree to a global standard for charging connectors. hate the idea that there will be a lightning cable vs usb-c rift when it comes to car charging.
in review of the past several pages, it has not been as much from you as much as it has been from whichreligion, so my apologies for lumping you in with him in terms of the spamming. however, your dismissiveness of things non-tesla still holds true.
This is what sells EVs. The 0-60 thing is silly. Reminds me of the mustang 5.0 in high school. Range and charging accessibility is the key.
I would think it's hard to know exactly what sells one car versus another. I mean, in general, statistically. People's preferences for things are all over the map. A fact that became that much more evident with the advent of the internet and our ability to see, so much more broadly, what makes people tick.
The auto manufacturers think they know. But they also don't often discuss it in any detail publicly. And I wonder, sometimes, how often they get it right. There have been some bonehead decisions by auto manufacturers over the years where the manufacturers wind up surprised that people hated some design decision, or some other feature of a new model.
this is what i was referring to. kid mashed the accelerator and ended up hitting two trees.
Cars bursting into flames after catastrophic damage to energy supply seems odd to you? Really? From 2014 to 2016 an estimated 171,500 U.S. car fires occurred each year.
Here's two caused by your vaunted Porsche.
My vaunted Porsche? LOL. You cultists seem to think the rest of us are as cultish about cars as you are. But no, sorry, I don’t worship at the altar of any car or any brand.
I would actually expect ICEs to be far more likely to catch fire in an accident than an EV. Seeing as how they have a tank full of a highly combustible substance that can rupture and be exposed to sparks in certain kinds of accidents.
EVs are statistically much less likely to catch fire than ICEs and especially hybrids. So why did this battery catch fire? It’s odd.
Maybe you have a factual, educational, and non-defensive response?
"I'm a Porsche guy." @mildone
You'll forgive me if your quote above and the 32 unique references you made in this thread alone to Porsche led me to believe you're a Porsche guy.
It's odd that you find this odd, since you answered the question yourself. Statistically less likely does not mean 0 probability. EV's can obviously catch fire, and one did so in this case after slamming into trees. Not a shock to me.
How's this.
While you are an intelligent and mildly amusing contributor to this thread, your persona as a non-biased non-partisan neutral commentator has grown stale. I doubt whether you actually believe half of what you write, instead opting for supposedly witty pronouncements. That unfortunately often makes you both boring and dishonest.
So how did I do? Clearly factual, educational if you learn anything about how some others perceive you, and highly offensive rather than defensive.
Greatly simplifying things, but the increased container traffic to Terminal Island (Ports of Los Angeles/Long Beach) means lots of full containers sitting in the yards. The Ports are limiting how many empties are allowed back in until they can clear out enough of the full containers coming in. Note: Terminal Island is mostly import goods; relatively few items exported from So Cal. This will all be sorted out soon enough. Once the holiday rush is over.
No spam. Don't let yourself be so locked into the good ole' days of ICE vehicles.
Wtf are you talking about? I've not mentioned anything about ICE in this thread for weeks. You clearly aren't actually reading what people post in your excitement to post nonsensical tweets from people who don't matter. Try contributing to a discussion for once.
That doesn't solve the single point of failure issue. Just wait it out and let it be is not a solution.
Face in the direction of St. Elon, genuflect and pray for forgiveness!!! You should be doing it multiple times a day.
It's funny that I'm so deep in your head. You're sole contribution to this thread is following me around this thread like a lost puppy. It's like my own personal art critic. What a good boy."I'm a Porsche guy." @mildone
You'll forgive me if your quote above and the 32 unique references you made in this thread alone to Porsche led me to believe you're a Porsche guy.
It's odd that you find this odd, since you answered the question yourself. Statistically less likely does not mean 0 probability. EV's can obviously catch fire, and one did so in this case after slamming into trees. Not a shock to me.
How's this.
While you are an intelligent and mildly amusing contributor to this thread, your persona as a non-biased non-partisan neutral commentator has grown stale. I doubt whether you actually believe half of what you write, instead opting for supposedly witty pronouncements. That unfortunately often makes you both boring and dishonest.
So how did I do? Clearly factual, educational if you learn anything about how some others perceive you, and highly offensive rather than defensive.
You wrote "vaunted" which means excessive boasting or praise. "I'm a Porsche guy" is neither boasting nor praise, and isn't excessive in any way. Maybe you should focus on accuracy instead of doing your lost puppy act?
Six hail Elon's and 100 lashes with a Tesla branded flogger.I'll try to do better.
Activity to/from the ports will slow significantly in the coming months - the current mess will sort itself out soon enough. I'll be worried if this problem repeats again next year. Optimistic the logistics and transport companies will have everything worked out within six months. One wildcard: China policies, especially hardline Chicom crap that cuts trade.
that's my point. if the business model doesn't change, the risk of this situation repeating itself will always be there.
So I have owned a model 3 for a while now, and I really like the car and love the way it drives. However, there are way too many Tesla cultist, it is not a perfect vehicle by any means, and there are lots of places it could be improved.
Also got a chance to drive the mach e and that was also a really fun vehicle. With gas prices the way they are, if you drive a decent amount everyday, but total it’s under 300 miles, I’d def recommend an ev.
Also got a chance to drive the mach e and that was also a really fun vehicle. With gas prices the way they are, if you drive a decent amount everyday, but total it’s under 300 miles, I’d def recommend an ev.
Between the huge demand and the parts/chips shortages, November 15 is the cutoff date. You only have to put down a refundable deposit to order one. Ordered mine through Larson Ford in Lakewood.
One of my neighbors got a model 3 after getting peer pressured by the other Tesla owners in the neighborhood. Said that it was a fine car... drives nice, he likes not needing to get gas, but wasn't seeing why everyone is raving about it like it's the best car ever.
Ford is doing great as a company. Bought into them at $12 last year. Hit $20 last week!
Little things really. But parts on the interior are not made well and break easy, paint job is so so, so scratches pretty easy as well. The water seals around the doors comes off faster than it has in other cars I have had. Not huge deals, but for the price it’s frustrating.
I also think they went overboard with everything being on the touch screen. Slows use down to have to click multiple buttons when you want to manually turn on lights or blades.
Upside, I love how effortlessly electric cars accelerate and the responsiveness is great. A very smooth ride.
I own a Y; all these criticisms are fair. The first paragraph items are areas where Tesla needs to do better.
OTOH, I like everything being on the touch screen. I'll admit there are times where I get confused on finding items. Just saying that the touch screen gets easier as you start to remember where things are located. Some folks will like all the dials and buttons normally found in modern vehicle. I greatly prefer the minimalist approach.
Be fitting for a Blues Brothers remake.
I was thinking about Kato driving the Green Hornet around.
Yes. Like you wouldn't believe. They are like teenage girls in their behavior.
You must know at this point a lot of things are voice activated. Push right scroll "turn on wipers", "I'm cold/hot", "initiate handjob"...etc