Today I heard on TV that there are now more Charging Station in NYC than there are gas stations.
Great, but are there more gas pumps than charging stations. That's what they should be comparing.
OT: Electric vehicles
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Great, but are there more gas pumps than charging stations. That's what they should be comparing.
Clown world
Complete morons that do not care anything about the average person nor is their any evidence their freakout push to end gas cars will have any effect on the saving the globe
The regulation would require 35% of sales in model year 2026 to be zero-emission vehicles, 68% of sales by 2030 and 100% of sales by 2035.
Complete morons that do not care anything about the average person nor is their any evidence their freakout push to end gas cars will have any effect on the saving the globe
The regulation would require 35% of sales in model year 2026 to be zero-emission vehicles, 68% of sales by 2030 and 100% of sales by 2035.
The average person sees this as easily achievable. EV adoption is growing at an exponential rate. Turn off the FoxNews and talk to some EV owners.
lol please tell me where people are getting the money to shell out an extra 20-25K for an electric vehicle or how they will construct enough charging stations to handle a situation where they want 68% of new sales of cars to be electric by 2030
this has to do with fox news and everything to do with picking arbitrary date based on nothing but giving good feels to the progressive base. If they were really serious about it, you dont set up dates like this
this has to do with fox news and everything to do with picking arbitrary date based on nothing but giving good feels to the progressive base. If they were really serious about it, you dont set up dates like this
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You're buying the FUD. Price prediction is wrong. Assuming manufacturers hit volume production, economies of scale will kick in and costs will decline. Same as it has with any other new technology. Remember how much you paid for your first VCR or HDTV?
Charging infrastructure is already expanding and will also experience exponential growth. This doesn't need to happen tomorrow.
EVs are being politicized and you're buying right into it. Are you really oblivious to this? The EV movement is consumer driven. These government edicts mean nothing. It's happening regardless. If EVs were ****** cars, people wouldn't be waiting months and paying a premium for them. I bet you've never been in an EV. Maybe go for a test ride.
I am skeptical that there are more public charging stations than gas stations. But yes, any comparison should be pumps to individual chargers. And more precisely, it should be the ratio of EVs to chargers compared to ICEVs to gas pumps with some additional factors included (eg miles between recharge/refuel).
Some folks were discussing (perhaps arguing is a better word) EVs and towing. Here’s an interesting article on the subject:
A quote:
“If you’re pulling 10,000 pounds, an electric truck is not the right solution. And 95 percent of our customers tow more than 10,000 pounds,” Ford Motor Co. CEO Jim Farley told media at the Churchill Downs horse track, where it revealed a redesigned Super Duty line. “This is a really important segment for our country and it will probably go hydrogen fuel cell before it goes pure electric.”
A quote:
“If you’re pulling 10,000 pounds, an electric truck is not the right solution. And 95 percent of our customers tow more than 10,000 pounds,” Ford Motor Co. CEO Jim Farley told media at the Churchill Downs horse track, where it revealed a redesigned Super Duty line. “This is a really important segment for our country and it will probably go hydrogen fuel cell before it goes pure electric.”
Who'd have thunk the fringe use case of towing would influence an entire make/model?
This isn't a good analogy.
The price of consumer electronics declines because integrated circuit innovation over time allows more and greater functionality to be put on a decreasing number of chips. The core feature / function set becomes commoditized.
You can't really do that with cars, beyond ECMs, BCMs, etc. - and that step has already been taken.
Yeah, I'm sending this by slow mail from my hotel room which by the way is beautiful and comped.
It's like the garage at my apartment in the city, one charger with the same car plugged in. No dependability to get to use.
Then forget my analogy
Li ion batteries are on a cost decline curve. First generation EVs are riddled with manufacturing inefficiencies.
Bac's cost assessment left out cost of ownership ICE vs EV.
Also left out government incentives
You could even throw depreciation in there as well.
Bottom line $20-$25k more for a comparable EV vs ICE is nonsense. It's not even true today.
also need to remember the time value of money. even if i can make up the 25k or whatever price difference is, dollars today are worth more than dollars tomorrow.
You know which way I'd choose.
Heck, my favorite aspect of Maserati's has been their orgasmic exhaust note. They know how to tune an exhaust.
Lovely car, either way.
seriously this is what you are going with...government handouts, you do realize that 60K now wont by you the same product 20 years from now
Now i realize prices will come down, technology will be ramped up. EVs are going to be the future at some point but it SHOULD be because technology advanced to the point that it became a no brainer and the consumer demand dictated it. Posters here keep saying im being political...um hello self awareness, the reason Dems are putting these bans out there is not to help the consumer its push forward their climate agenda by any means or any how despite the consequences or the lack of charging stations
Tell me how do giant apartment complexes with hundreds of cars deal with charging stations, do you have a plan for that...thats just in rural locations how about the big cities, is the grid ready for all those plugs. do tell
A piece of wood could also briefly function as a boat.
I should tweet about the mildone fleet of briefly functional boats all over the oceans today, especially in areas hit by strong storms.
the sound of an italian sports car burbling is so distinct and amazing.You know which way I'd choose.
Heck, my favorite aspect of Maserati's has been their orgasmic exhaust note. They know how to tune an exhaust.
Lovely car, either way.
Loose wheels sink ships. Or something like that.
Toyota's just mad because Tesla wants to become the Toyota of EVs. Minus the reliability.
Compliance car. Nothing more.
Feel free to omit "government incentives" from my post. Everything else is true.
Surly you aware that the EV revolution began while your boyfriend was in office. You should be proud! Biden is following Trump's lead.
Haha, I'm waiting for NYC to put in free charging stations around NYCHA projects for tenants only.
Every time I drive by a project I check out the late model cars parked. Many with out of state plates or expired temporary plates from places like Texas.
It's getting nuts over here.
I've been thinking about hybrid vehicles these days. Feels to me like buying a DVD or Blue Ray just as streaming becomes available. Sure, you'll have a good vehicle or disk, but why?
Or not. Like ever.
Thread is about actual vehicles, new tech and driving experience, not crying about far-off mandates in states we don't live in or other political BS about which Fox News told you to get your old man sack all twisted in knots.
Go back to the CE board, where you started that actual thread. You're more useless here than elsewhere.
Trolling, trolling, trolling.
Nice effort, though.
It's not uncommon, though. I'm including a PHEV in my next decision-making process. The only real problem is that the boss of the bunch is the XC60 Recharge with its 455 hp and it's not really "sporty".
Unless something comes along to blow me away, my next car will likely be an ICE vehicle.
Please show your work. Do sales really fit an exponential curve? I seriously doubt it.
If you don't know what EV sales trends have been, why are you posting your ignorance?
Same here. I will consider a hybrid for my SUV. But not sure that’ll be my next car. If not, the next will be an ICEV, hopefully naturally aspirated.
If at some point I wind up with a need to do a lot of local point A to B driving, I could see getting an EV though, as I think that‘s the ideal use-case for them.