The flat tax is as fair as a tax code can be. If someone make 10 times more than someone else, they pay 10 times more in taxes. How can anyone argue with that?
OT: Electric vehicles
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I can't think of an argument, but I also have not given it much thought because the chances of it becoming a reality are slim.
I mean, he's far from the first CEO to demo vaporware. But his cult likes to portray him as some sort of altruistic angel out to save mankind from itself. All we have to do to create a better world for everyone is whatever EM tells us to do.
Nevermind that the demo in question was showing an automotive "feature" that seems to be causing accidents with injuries or deaths. Or that a Model Y crashed during the making of the video.
Tesla's a good company but I think Musk needs to go. If he ever had a Midas touch, it seems to have turned to stone hands.
Yeah, Tesla is really struggling.
Leave it to the board's biggest narcissist to think he knows better than the world's most successful entrepreneur. Keep clicking that clickbait!
Come on, Maybach, this is a car thread, too. Contribute something interesting.
VW, Audi going backwards in the EV game. Dropping heat pumps for less efficient resistive heating:
https://www.electrive.com/2023/01/19/vw-drops-the-heat-pump-due-to-semiconductor-shortage/
https://insideevs.com/news/631169/audi-no-heat-pumps-q4/
Why this matters:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/3-ways...hicle-ev-performance-efficiency-cold-weather/
https://www.electrive.com/2023/01/19/vw-drops-the-heat-pump-due-to-semiconductor-shortage/
https://insideevs.com/news/631169/audi-no-heat-pumps-q4/
Why this matters:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/3-ways...hicle-ev-performance-efficiency-cold-weather/
All the traditional car companies have a staggering amount of debt. They talk a big game on EVs, but their realities will be much different.
Read much? I just said Tesla is a good company. With numbers like that, one wonders how Tesla stock went from ~400 to ~100 in less than a year?
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I've been reading about a number of battery recycling startups. The market is responding to the need for better methods of recycling.
It’s easy to show growth when you are a low production company. It’s harder to keep that rate of growth when you start producing meaningful numbers. Tesla already missed the 50% YOY growth rate already and they are only at 1.3mm units. To put that in perspective, Toyota sold 1.1mm Corollas annually
Dammit man! Elon is a God among men. Trouble us not with performance metric trivialities.
It matters not that the shareholders lost nearly 3/4s of the value of their stock in the past year. Worrying about anybody other than Elon would be, uh, narcissistic. Yeah, that's it. Narcissistic.
We must only worry about defending Lord Elon, The Truly Altruistic. We must prostrate ourselves before him. We must flagellate ourselves unmercifully for even being capable of forming the merest doubt about his immense magnificence, that capacity being our most egregious original sin.
I knew Tesla is not good at customer service, but I didn’t expect it to be this bad. My Tesla Advisor doesn’t reply any of my messages after the order date.
Elon sent all the CSRs to twitter to replace all the experienced and competent coders who quit in disgust over Elon's cluelessly ill-advised ultimatum. The CSR's don't know how to code or anything, but who cares, surely it's the easiest thing ever. It's not hard work like not losing nearly half of $200B+ in net worth.
When they get done over there, they can come back and join the FSD development team.
The "experienced and competent" coders didn't quit. Elon changed their pronouns to "was and were" for a reason.
Yeah, they absolutely did.
Very talented tech folks don’t have to put up with out of touch CEOs who think they’re easily replaceable. They can always get good work, excellent pay, and usually stock or stock options.
Average and below average tech people are mostly easily replaceable. I’m not talking about them. The really talented people, are not. Not easily and not inexpensively. They’re like 5 star recruits and companies compete for them.
I confess I don’t understand what you mean with the pronoun thing.
Remember when Tesla said the dealership model sucks because of the markups?
Not sure what point you are trying to make. I don't remember ever hearing or reading about a dealership cutting prices on an order.
100% agree with this. I get performance sells but EV should be more about practicality. I would trade 0-60 time for more range.
It’s call dynamic pricing. You charge more when demand goes up and lowers them when demand goes down. Instead of dealerships doing it, Tesla does it company wide.
ETA this is the 1st time demand went down so the price cuts is catching all the Tesla fan club off guard. Plus a lot of people were flipping them for profit.
On the flip side Ford raised their prices on F150 Lightning models by about 10% not long ago. Do you think they will drop prices too?
I would support a flat tax if there were no exemptions and Social Security be replaced with a manditory 401k.
As would I. Of course, we get to make that choice when we drive an EV. Step light on the go pedal and we can go farther before a recharge than if we’re lead-footed.
But that does nothing to improve the max range. So if the automotive manufacturer has a choice between adding more torque or adding more range, I’d opt for range every time, and twice on Sundays.
There's been a few minor things in the news lately that you might have missed:
We're entering a global recession.
Shanghai factory had been shut down for over a month due to the zero covid policy
Interest rates on car loans have increased significantly
Despite those little details, Tesla still managed 40% yoy growth, while the rest of the car market continues their 5 year slide. BTW, Tesla's guidance has always been 50% average annual growth. How do you think Tesla will do in 2023? I'm thinking around 2 million units.
This isn't the first time Tesla has lowered prices. We tend to forget this given how sharply prices have risen over the past 2 years. The recent price cuts are a return to normalization.
If demand falls, dealers will cut prices. You know, just like pre-COVID car purchase process.
I think it’s the size of reductions that’s creating the buzz. I think Tesla should hit 2mm this year with the EV tax credit and the price cut. The only variable is how many people were buying Teslas to flip.
They can't unless they want to lose money on every Lightning sold.
A clearer picture of your lack of understanding of the economics of car manufacturing couldn't be had on a billboard. Evergreen post.