OT: EVs
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Maybe. But these game changers always turn out to be a lot harder and take a lot more time to implement than they make it look. If they even turnout to be feasible at all.
I've had a Model S Plaid since 2021. It's the only car I've ever driven daily, always been a truck guy. I still have a truck because you have to have a truck. But the Tesla is incredible. Absolutely no maintenance. The FSD is really good now. I have found that when I use it on long trips that I arrive and am not tired like I usually am. On occasion they update the features and add some good ideas. It's just a different experience in owning / using a vehicle.
From Fort Walton Beach, we've driven to Baton Rouge, Jackson, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Orlando, and all the way down to Naples. I will add that it is more difficult to travel in MS with it, as there are a low number of superchargers in the state. Until recently there were only three in all of south MS to include Jackson. Average recharge time is 10 to 15 minutes depending upon the number of cars at the facility.
From Fort Walton Beach, we've driven to Baton Rouge, Jackson, Atlanta, Jacksonville, Orlando, and all the way down to Naples. I will add that it is more difficult to travel in MS with it, as there are a low number of superchargers in the state. Until recently there were only three in all of south MS to include Jackson. Average recharge time is 10 to 15 minutes depending upon the number of cars at the facility.
I really wanted a PHEV, but for a few grand less I got a comparable hybrid with a ton more bells and whistles. Gets me about 40mpg when it's freezing, 45ish in the intense summer heat (AC blasting), and 50+ cruising a highway or if it's just those perfect weather days where you roll you windows down and blast your Bad Bunny/Kid Rock mixed tape. Just a personal observation with no actual data to back it up... it seems like they are catching on a lot more like they should. I'm seeing more and more on the road.
THIS is the answer for most people and for the planet if you're concerned about being green. Much less cost than PHEV or EV, much greater potential for widespread adoption, much less use of rare earth metals, much less battery weight and cost, much more convenience, etc. Really an ICE only vehicle should be a dinosaur within 10 years.
You claimed you put your car into self driving mode and took a 2 hour nap, despite the legal requirement that a driver be awake and able to handle driving requirements when any vehicle is in self-driving mode.
I mean, you proudly declared you slept for 2 hours despite that being clearly illegal.
So yeah, I dismissively responded to your claim.
If you are saying I dont have a damn clue because you actually did it and werent just popping off with some lame claim, that really isnt anything to brag about. Like ok, I guess you did actually do the illegal thing that puts others around you in danger?...got me.
Not to mention you’re an idiot if you just put one of those cars in self driving mode & take a nap.
It’s essentially an inside out hybrid, built the most expensive way imaginable. You have the super huge, expensive, heavy EV battery. But you also have a heavy combustion engine, inverter, giant fuel tank, not to mention beefed up drivetrain to support all that damn weight. It is the absolute worst of both worlds.
700 miles of range = 500 miles that the engine can run on a full tank and keep the battery fully charged the whole way….plus 200 miles the vehicle can go on the full charge of straight electric before full depletion. What’s been mentioned for the F-150 is a 2.7L 4-cyl turbo engine as the onboard generator. That’s a pretty 17ing hefty ICE just for battery recharging. What I’ve read is that emissions requirements are going to continue to require a turbocharged application as opposed to naturally aspirated, even though the low-end torque is all from the battery.
With a 25-30 gallon fuel tank, you’re looking at probably 23-26 combined MPG when including the full discharge period of the battery…..which honestly is something I feel will be discouraged. If you fill up every time you run out of gas, MPG will be way less.
It will be fun as hell to drive…..for nearly $100k or more, and god help you if you’re on the hook for anything in the powertrain after the warranty expires. Just give me the damn 3.5L EcoBoost that already gets 21-22 MPG on the highway - at half the cost - and I’ll be fine.
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Nobody ever said it wouldn’t “work”. That’s not really the issue. But an application being feasible and there being a viable business case for it are two different things.
Generally speaking, EREV’s seem to be solving a non-existent problem. There does not seem to be any mainstream private customer demand for vehicles with 700 miles of driving range in light duty / commuter conditions….regardless of whether its a straight ICE, a hybrid, or a BEV. To your point above, that concept makes a ton of sense for trains, which regularly must travel hundreds if not thousands of miles without refueling. Longhaul trucking and shipping? Maybe some utility there as well. But some suburban bro with a half acre lot who has ample access to both electrical and ICE refueling infrastructure? Makes very little sense.
Now, what there was kind of a demand for was a full-size pickup BEV that could match the existing 300-400 mile range of gas burners while towing. This does partially solve that problem, but yet you still have the engine, and the price tag is going to be $15-$20k above what a straight BEV would be. The marginal MPG improvement simply isn’t going to be worth the astronomical price difference from a V6-Turbo or V8 gas burner. Especially now, when gas prices have been approaching pre-9/11 levels in many parts of the country when accounting for inflation.
By "work," I meant economically viable (and attractive) in current markets. You answered that. Thank you.
17n moron!!! mute me b1tch. i also tear the tags off all my mattresses, drive in FSD while sleeping plus exceeding the speed limit, dont always rinse and repeat, and swim immediately after eating. pu55y!
No it is very aware of not being a slow left lane driver and always uses a blinker. I usually run in standard mode. In mad max mode it will push slow left lane drivers and even pass them on the right. Mad max wants to lead the pack!
Mad max mode is incredibly aggressive. It's kind of scary honestly, or maybe I'm just getting old.
I call BS on full day for a 1,000 miles. It's going to take less than about 300 KW to go 1000 miles as I get 3.5 miles per KW. I start withh 77.4. I will need about 250 more to give me some room for mistakes or have a charge when I get to my destination that allows me to run around a bit.
I can charge max 250 KW in one hour and 100 KW in the cold at super chargers. That's about 2.5 hrs of charge time in the dead of winter and only an hour in perfect conditions.
If it they took an extra day, that was either on purpose or ignorance. I am not sure which.
not even brake wear is a thing. I don't use them to slow down or even use them to stop. I have regenerative braking that recharges the batteries that slow you to a full stop. No need for brakes at all most days. 85,000 miles brakes look like they are still brand new.
Too limiting... What if it were 800 miles range and but took you 30 minutes charge on a fast charger but you never needed it as you always charged at home while asleep. I mean if i am driving over 650 miles, I am going to take a couple pit stops anyway.
Toyota and China claim to already be doing that with these solid state batteries but I am not satisfied they tell us the truth or have a solid state battery that will last.
This I agree.. My step daughter has a Tesla self driving and it's great and takes all kinds of stress of driving away. It will even plan your trip with charge stops so you never worry about juice but fully autonomous it is not. It does do everything great until it doesn't. The car turned driving over to her when it hit a bump, RR, turn and dip all at once. It was just too much for the car to handle so it just said, take over or something. There is plenty of evidence that these things aren't reliable enough to sleep while driving but going down an interstate in a straight line is as easy as it gets for it to do but no way I would trust it. I have seen too many mistakes by these cars. I would use it as it's probably better than I am at watching the road but it's not infallible.
Tesla got some things very right but his price point, no. He lost me when he said there was no reason to build an affordable car for the average American. Not sure what he meant but others are doing it very well.
Please use that self-driving thingy everywhere you. Your full road rage does not need to be released upon society.