OT: Good news for Brandon.
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Great news for Mississippi to continue to land these projects. I am curious to see where the power for these come from. They are tremendous energy hogs and regulations along with certain government grants drying up are roadblocks to new energy development.
Again, this is good news. I am just interested to see how that part plays out.
Keep rolling on Tater.
Again, this is good news. I am just interested to see how that part plays out.
Keep rolling on Tater.
Won’t be $6 billion on the books for assessed value purposes. Probably closer to $2 billion on the books for value purposes, but still …..
Huge deal for Brandon, the county and Rankin County Schools.
Only phase 1 of this particular project will be powered by a legacy electricity supplier. The remaining phases of this project will be powered by natural gas through an on-site gasification plant built by the company.
I am thinking we will "could" eventually see small local nuclear plants. I am thinking google got approved for some.
More of this to come across the state
Getting rid of state flag is starting to pay off.
The water is my concern. I can't help but think these companies are laughing at our willingness to trade natural resources for $$$s. Other than eyesore/visibility, I see little difference in potentially ruining water tables vs farmland. I'm not read in enough to know that we aren't giving that proper consideration, I've just seen enough articles related to negative impact on water sources from places that have a number of data centers in place and are not approving any more.
I understand Tate Reeves is republican, but you know it’s completely okay to be happy when something good happens to Mississippi. This is a good thing.
I think he is referring to the reporting out that these use so much water that houses around them can open the tap wide open and take 30 minutes to fill a bathtub.
maybe have their own water tower on site?
I guess you think your water has a party affiliation. You know it's OK to question if our natural resources are being properly accounted for, regardless of who is eyeing the $$$, right? I'd much prefer knowing we've done our diligence vs turning on the tap and not having what I need, but that's just me. If you run out of water, I hope it's under a Democrats rule so you can properly allay blame for the situation. Just in case you missed civics, there are a lot more people involved in these things than Tate. MDA absolutely led the charge. Tate, rightly so as the leader, gets the announcement but there's a whole lot more to landing these things than any political party or single person and I hope you are sitting down, because both Democrats and Republicans worked for this, and if you are still conscious, everyone on this planet is at risk of allowing greed to cloud decision making.
For when you wake up from this shock, besides being thankful that I'm not a miserable person who views everything through a political lens, I did NOT say due diligence wasn't done. I voiced a concern about possibly following a path that others have followed at substantial cost. Good lord have we turned into a bunch of walking political zombies just completely void of any possibility of critical thought...
That's OK if it's Republican water. Everybody knows natural resources follow political leanings. Common sense correlation.
Signs & Wonders: a $6,000,000,000.00 project will result in 60 direct jobs.
Certainly that would help them best maintain their water pressure, but these wells draw from common aquifers. Madison MS, for example, has two. MS has 16 major ones statewide and a number of smaller ones. Maybe someone on here works at MDA or MDEQ and knows the facts? I just have general concerns about the process/vetting.
Didn’t read any of this. Too damn long.
To keep the ill-informed from looking stupid, allow me to fill in some blanks. Phase 1 of the project will result in an estimated 60 jobs. Phases 2, 3, 4 ...... etc., etc., will result in an estimated 60-100 additional jobs for each additional phase of construction. The press release could have been more clear on that point, but alas.
The article clearly states "These include at least 60 direct, high-tech jobs".
Not sure why that led you using "ill-informed" and "stupid", but congrats on getting a cut of the deal I suppose.
People thinking this is a good thing are a little short sighted. When your electric bill continues to sky rocket, you can look back at these centers and point to why. Don't believe the propaganda coming from Entergy and other politicians that the company is paying for all the electrical grid upgrades because I can tell you for a fact, they aren't. The residential customers are going to be fronting some of that money
That is a legitimate concern that I hope is being taken into account. A NYT article about a GA data center and H2O: Meta and Water
Chatgpt sometimes uses 50oz of water to produce 100 words of text. That is simply astounding
Using GPT-4 to generate 100 words consumes up to 3 bottles of water — AI data centers also raise power and water bills for nearby residents
Net-zero emission goals went out the window with AI.
they will never pay taxes anyway.
Also the vast majority of that money is spent on the items in the building, not the building.
Also, these places really don't have that many staff members.
Give me a 6 billion dollar car plant or or any other manufacturing facility any day.
AWS is using water from a river that is otherwise unpotable and unusable to the local community. Seems like a great answer. Maybe some others are doing something similar.
It's interesting how even seemingly non-political posts divide across party lines now.
"how should land be used?" is very much a political question and always has been.
Your quoted phrase was not the original topic here, but okay friend. It was just an observation how now even bringing industry and job creation and money to the school system of local municipalities is 100% divided along party lines on this here Mississippi State sports board.
But I get it - Tate is still governor, so there has to be something wrong with it if you look hard enough. So the other side came up with... land use.
Next topic: "peace between Russia and Ukraine -- is this a good or bad thing?" The answer: Depends on who brokered it.
Look, I'm more than happy to shiit all over tater and the Mississippi gop when warranted (which is often!), that's not what's going on here. To wit, if you scroll up I think you'll see some fairly conservative posters who have questions and concerns.
We've all heard the saying "all money ain't good money", and I think it's worth considering in this and all cases. We're hearing all the positives - what are the drawbacks?
LOL New TDS = Tater Derangement Syndrome .
Those old rock quarrys behind the land this is being built on are full of water. Dont know if they plan to use them for their water or not.
I understand people being disappointed by the low number of long-term jobs it creates. But in the short term, there are millions of dollars to be made by locals. The site on I-20 in Louisiana for Meta has 3k people now and will be at 5k by the end of the month. The equipment rental companies are making so much money right now that I can’t imagine the bonuses coming this year. There are 750+ pieces of heavy equipment on site. They also have nearly 500 UTVs running around on it and the companies are either renting them or buying them. The service contracts on those bad boys are overloading the locals with work. Plus, they have zero places to eat. So, the people willing to deliver food and water are killing it.
If you live nearby and can possibly service the hordes of workers that will pour into Brandon, I’d encourage you to start devising a plan now.
some ill-informed people on this subject in here. The jobs number isn't really the big benefit to the counties and cities and school districts hosting these projects. It's the PRE-NEGOTIATED fee-in-lieu agreement revenue that will be game-changing for the areas that host these. No, they don't skirt paying taxes. They pay them via the fee-in-lieu agreement. For example, the $10 Billion data center in Lauderdale county will bring the county an additional $75 MM per year every year, for 30 years. Then it will be re-negotiated. It will bring that same amount to the Lauderdale county school district. When your current budget is $65 MM a year, that's game changing money for them. Their yearly revenue will more than double. You can really improve your community with that kind of money. You can do the math and see what Rankin County and the school district will get from this. I have been in meetings and discussions on three of these data centers. The power consumption situation had to be settled before the companies would even go forward with due diligence engineering work to see if a site is even suitable for their project. The statewide capacity is there, from MS Power, Entergy, and TVA. The chicken little folks sky screaming about their light bill going up are doing so from an ignorant standpoint. The consumer of the electricity is who pays the power bill. They don't take a power bill from a data center and spread it around to everyone else in the service area and give them power for free. They pay their own bill. As a side note, the state of MS also gets a third of that money. So, these data centers could single-handedly save PERS, and then some.
They have a negotiated rate for electricity but Entergy has to build a lot more substations and generation to get them the electricity they need. Guess who gets to pay for some of those substations and generation? The residential customers because the PSC never tells Entergy no. You are the one ill informed on that subject
incorrect. You believe what you want. I'm intimately involved in several of these. I don't speak from an outsider's standpoint. There will be a lot of things done outside the box on these data centers. Things that break the mold. You'll just have to wait and see. It's not like your sky screaming will stop them from coming. People a lot smarter than you are driving this ship