OT: Is everybody just struggling lately?

Maroon Eagle

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Hang in there. 2025 sucked. But it’s gone.
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I don’t know…

2026 looks an awful lot like 2025…
 

grinningmule

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For years, my wife and I will randomly tell each other that we must have missed the free Wealth Accumulation seminar at the airport Holiday Inn that everyone else our age seems to have gone to 20 years ago.
Houses that are 2x the size of ours and cost 3-4x more, cars that cost 2x-3x ours, etc etc. But then we will remind each other about what we choose to spend our money on instead, how we dont have debt besides some years left on our house, and we accept it until the next time one of us looks around in bewilderment at how much money peers are spending on things we dont spend on.

Its an odd cycle to go through a few times each year.
There are a lot of people out there maxed out to the hilt in debt. Not just people in McMansions either but people in double wides with a 30k dollar SxS and lifted diesel trucks with those godawful deep dish wheels/tires that cost about 5k.
 

thatsbaseball

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For years, my wife and I will randomly tell each other that we must have missed the free Wealth Accumulation seminar at the airport Holiday Inn that everyone else our age seems to have gone to 20 years ago.
Houses that are 2x the size of ours and cost 3-4x more, cars that cost 2x-3x ours, etc etc. But then we will remind each other about what we choose to spend our money on instead, how we dont have debt besides some years left on our house, and we accept it until the next time one of us looks around in bewilderment at how much money peers are spending on things we dont spend on.

Its an odd cycle to go through a few times each year.
I suspect in some cases this : https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/202...nd-its-implications-for-the-american-economy/ , is already happening. Either they've gotten their inheritance or borrowing against it hopping they can cash flow the debt load until their parents die . One way or the other that's a lot of money that's going to change hands .
 
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For years, my wife and I will randomly tell each other that we must have missed the free Wealth Accumulation seminar at the airport Holiday Inn that everyone else our age seems to have gone to 20 years ago.
Houses that are 2x the size of ours and cost 3-4x more, cars that cost 2x-3x ours, etc etc. But then we will remind each other about what we choose to spend our money on instead, how we dont have debt besides some years left on our house, and we accept it until the next time one of us looks around in bewilderment at how much money peers are spending on things we dont spend on.

Its an odd cycle to go through a few times each year.
I used to think people were just in debt or whatever, kinda sheep thought. Then I realized that most people actually live within 20% of their income, so while they are in debt, they still do make a lot of money. But then I saw my SIL and her husband's credit balance one day, and this was like 15 years ago, it was around 160K. I didn't get a chance to look in detail, but it was some sort of consolidated debt. I'm guessing almost pure credit cards or maybe student loans.

How da fook do people make payments on something like that? A mortgage is over 15-30 years, a car over 5-7, with lower rates. I don't know of any straight consumer debt that is a good enough investment for somebody to loan against.
 
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615dawg

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Wife and I were just talking about some of the expensive residential real estate developments around Madison and wondering.....How in the hell ? It seems the folks struggling are REALLY strugglig and the folks living "high on the hog" are REALLY living "high on the hog" . I have a feeling all the various kinda of debts we've accumilated (housing, ceadit cards, car loans etc) are going to REALLY bite us in the arse before long .
Same here. I passed on the bigger house during COVID and refinanced into a 2% mortgage. I amortized for 15 but have been paying it like a 10 year. There is a beautiful house being built that is on the lake visible from Reunion Parkway that I pass every morning. Has to be north of $1.6 million, maybe even $2 million.

And there's dozens of them.

I thought I was doing something wrong until I heard a couple of stories of how over leveraged some folks are.
 
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thatsbaseball

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Same here. I passed on the bigger house during COVID and refinanced into a 2% mortgage. I amortized for 15 but have been paying it like a 10 year. There is a beautiful house being built that is on the lake visible from Reunion Parkway that I pass every morning. Has to be north of $1.6 million, maybe even $2 million.

And there's dozens of them.

I thought I was doing something wrong until I heard a couple of stories of how over leveraged some folks are.
LOL those are some of the same houses I talking about !
 

leeinator

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Retired. Don’t watch the news. Don’t read the news. Play golf once a week. Shoot skeet once a month at least. Don’t really know what day it is but it’s been awhile since Sunday so it must be getting close to the weekend again. The world may be going to hell in a hand basket but I won’t know about it until after the fact. Nope, no struggles here.
Same here, but I do watch the news if my internet happens to be working. My 3 dogs keep me plenty busy. No wife, no kids. Just me and the dogs.
 
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Same here. I passed on the bigger house during COVID and refinanced into a 2% mortgage. I amortized for 15 but have been paying it like a 10 year. There is a beautiful house being built that is on the lake visible from Reunion Parkway that I pass every morning. Has to be north of $1.6 million, maybe even $2 million.

And there's dozens of them.

I thought I was doing something wrong until I heard a couple of stories of how over leveraged some folks are.
For some reason, I assumed you lived around Nashville. Must be the 615 area code.
 

bulldoghair

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I don't mean family/financially/vocationally/health-wise - just, everything. Seems like this week, I've seen more lack of attention, basic screw-ups, etc than I can recall (and believe it or not, even ME!). And I'm talking about generally competent, bonafide grown-ups here.

Feels like folks are just barely hanging on in all facets. Yall good?
Could be some of the same tech that was dropped on Maduro’s guards, getting field-tested on the home front. Track your symptoms.
 

ckDOG

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Wife and I were just talking about some of the expensive residential real estate developments around Madison and wondering.....How in the hell ? It seems the folks struggling are REALLY strugglig and the folks living "high on the hog" are REALLY living "high on the hog" . I have a feeling all the various kinda of debts we've accumilated (housing, ceadit cards, car loans etc) are going to REALLY bite us in the arse before long .
We drove around when visiting my folks a few weeks ago. Said the same thing. What local economy is cash flowing the notes on all those homes? It's insane. Folks must leveraged to the gills and assuming or received a big inheritance.
 
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I've never been more motivated professionally. I'm seeing huge improvements and the fruits of labor are starting to really kick in. My brain is really forging forward just knocking out project after project. All I can think about is what's next. Never content. This is a big year for me professionally because it sets the table for the future and I honestly don't feel like there is anything to hold me back. Mental health wise, great. Physical health wise, def need some cleanup there. I could lose some but I always really dial that in this time of year.

A few years ago I was in intense mental warfare day in day out and it was draining. It was 15 years of bs coming to a head. And i can see it in pictures of myself like 3-5 years ago. Kept the course, kept battling, and it all worked out as it should. Pushing through awful times is like mental rocket fuel when you get through it. Stay the course
 

615dawg

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For some reason, I assumed you lived around Nashville. Must be the 615 area code.
Ive been here since the beginning and at that time I did live in Nashville. Was President of the Music City Bulldogs. Moved to Birmingham but aging parents and now getting all the kids through high school has me in the Madison area.

Kept the username though.
 

horshack.sixpack

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For years, my wife and I will randomly tell each other that we must have missed the free Wealth Accumulation seminar at the airport Holiday Inn that everyone else our age seems to have gone to 20 years ago.
Houses that are 2x the size of ours and cost 3-4x more, cars that cost 2x-3x ours, etc etc. But then we will remind each other about what we choose to spend our money on instead, how we dont have debt besides some years left on our house, and we accept it until the next time one of us looks around in bewilderment at how much money peers are spending on things we dont spend on.

Its an odd cycle to go through a few times each year.
Likely you missed the debt accumulation
 

dog12

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"Struggling?"

I'm not familiar with this concept.

Can someone please explain it to me?
 

patdog

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Retired. Don’t watch the news. Don’t read the news. Play golf once a week. Shoot skeet once a month at least. Don’t really know what day it is but it’s been awhile since Sunday so it must be getting close to the weekend again. The world may be going to hell in a hand basket but I won’t know about it until after the fact. Nope, no struggles here.
Sounds like a good life. Can’t wait to join you.
 
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I’m in my early sixties. I retired in late 24 after open heart surgery. Moved to Jackson area to be near kids/grands and am now dabbling in sales. The only stress I have is paying for my youngest daughter’s wedding. And she is high maintenance. Other than that? Unicorns and butterflies boys
 

dgsmith15

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Retired. Don’t watch the news. Don’t read the news. Play golf once a week. Shoot skeet once a month at least. Don’t really know what day it is but it’s been awhile since Sunday so it must be getting close to the weekend again. The world may be going to hell in a hand basket but I won’t know about it until after the fact. Nope, no struggles here.
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patdog

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I’m in my early sixties. I retired in late 24 after open heart surgery. Moved to Jackson area to be near kids/grands and am now dabbling in sales. The only stress I have is paying for my youngest daughter’s wedding. And she is high maintenance. Other than that? Unicorns and butterflies boys
My brother in law caught a break on the younger daughter. Stopped by their house just before Christmas last year. Sister said, oh by the way Younger daughter & boyfriend are in Pigeon Forge getting married today. And she’s pregnant. I just high fived my brother in law.
 

Chesusdog

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Thanks for asking. Hope it gets better for you.

Me? The last couple of years have been the greatest couple of years of my life, as long as I exclude MSU football from the equation.
Excluding the hire of BOC and the prospects of this year's team finally getting out of the cellar, the last two years of MSU athletics alone would have me spiraling if I hadn't repressed my ability to feel.
 

Ranchdawg

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We are doing well. Retired and planning to hit the road with our 5th wheel. Going to FL first to see family and friends then on to the Keys. We love to travel.
 
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